I never post process? Perhaps this article (link below) will lay to rest the idea that before "PhotoShop" great images came straight out of the camera. In the pursuit of excellence...

lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland

Perhaps this article (link below) will lay to rest the idea that before "PhotoShop" great images came straight out of the camera. In the pursuit of excellence, all techniques should be considered. The Digital Dark Room is just another and more expansive tool to making imagined results a reality.

http://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Nothing wrong with that.
But I predict a food fight !
SS

lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland

SharpShooter wrote:

Nothing wrong with that.
But I predict a food fight !
SS

Bring it on!

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

lesdmd wrote:

Bring it on!

Actually, I'm not sure where you are going with this. Unless your a newbie, this is old news.
Are you just dragging out that poor dead horse again?
Artist in every media have been using illusion since the beginning of art. That's one of the beauties of art. The maker has all the control.
Even today, as then, journalism and nature will allow slight tweaks. the artists has to know the limit, hence it just becomes pictorial.
If you want a certain angle, tell us.
I dont want to throw a burger, when it should have been a tomato.
SS

sandheinrichc Loc: Illinois

My hope is always to be able to use my photos right out of the camera and generally I do very little post processing but I am glad I have the option to do so if the photo is in need of a little help.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

lesdmd wrote:

Perhaps this article (link below) will lay to rest the idea that before "PhotoShop" great images came straight out of the camera.

Well, they never have, even from the early days so, really nothing new.

While it flies in the face of many there is something to be said that the initial exposure has to be perfect or near perfect* hence the claim 'I never PP'. Those who say that, and I was one of them, have not experienced the PP power of the current crop of software that does bring out the best of 'perfect' pictures.

Trouble is... WHERE do you stop the PP? Your link offers direction given to a lab rat by a person who knew what to do but possibly not how...

With the vulgarization of photography, are we capable of bringing out the best of our shoots?

I have to admit that, except for a few individuals, we do not.

Please note the WE before jumping all over this comment.

You can make vomit look good in a plate but it will taste like vomit. Same for photography.

StephenVL Loc: Los Angeles, USA

For some photography is a way to record history, events and people. For these people post processing is just to correct exposure problems or other needed corrections.
For some photography is an artistic expression and post processing is part of the process to achieve a given result. Sometimes the final result has only a passing resemblance to the original photo.
I say "to thine own self be true". Choose your goal and then use whatever tools you do or do not need to get there.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

this been hashed 25 million times here

lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode

I love articles like this that throw stones at the "straight from the camera crowd"
I found it interesting that the article shows 2 different treatments for the James Dean pic.

lesdmd wrote:

Perhaps this article (link below) will lay to rest the idea that before "PhotoShop" great images came straight out of the camera. In the pursuit of excellence, all techniques should be considered. The Digital Dark Room is just another and more expansive tool to making imagined results a reality.

http://petapixel.com/2013/09/12/marked-photographs-show-iconic-prints-edited-darkroom/

Rongnongno Loc: FL

dirtpusher wrote:

this been hashed 25 million times here

and one

SteveR Loc: Michigan

sandheinrichc wrote:

My hope is always to be able to use my photos right out of the camera and generally I do very little post processing but I am glad I have the option to do so if the photo is in need of a little help.

You must be able to take much more time over each photo to get all of the settings in the camera just perfect for each shot than most of us have. You must also be a much more accomplished photographer than the rest of us to be able to do that. I'll have to pull up your photographs.

Db7423 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

lighthouse wrote:

I love articles like this that throw stones at the "straight from the camera crowd"
I found it interesting that the article shows 2 different treatments for the James Dean pic.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :)

sandheinrichc Loc: Illinois

SteveR wrote:

You must be able to take much more time over each photo to get all of the settings in the camera just perfect for each shot than most of us have. You must also be a much more accomplished photographer than the rest of us to be able to do that. I'll have to pull up your photographs.

Oh my photos are far from perfect and I know that, I wish all of my photos could be used straight from my camera, I get super excited when I dont have to post process, I am just like most of you on here I am still learning. I am not as accomplished as I would like to be.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

sandheinrichc wrote:

I am not as accomplished as I would like to be.

Is that an Ansel Adams quote?
SS

sandheinrichc Loc: Illinois

SharpShooter wrote:

Is that an Ansel Adams quote?
SS

Not that I know of, it might be. It is just how I feel about my photography so I wrote it.