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Sep 9, 2013 17:01:03   #
mel Loc: Jacksonville, Florida
 
As a hobbyist, I feel that the quality I get from non branded ink is fine, however, if I did photography as a business, and I charged for the product, then I think the OEM ink would definitely be preferred. If you can pass the cost on to the consumer, why skimp.

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Sep 9, 2013 17:14:43   #
Novots Loc: Grand Forks, ND
 
Photographer Jim wrote:
I don't presume to tell people what they should or shouldn't do with their money, but for what it is worth I do have reasons for my choice to stick with OEM inks despite their higher cost.

First, OEM inks have been specifically formulated to work with that manufacturer's printers. The formula takes into account nozzle sizes, amount of cleaning agent needed to keep nozzles clear, etc. Third party inks do not necessarily fine tune their products for proper viscosity, etc. across brands. Now while there a number of photographers who claim no problems from compatible inks over long periods of time, there are also a large number on this and other forums reporting hardware problems which are tied to using the replacement inks. Enough so as to cast some doubt as to the risk such inks might entail. I have been unable to find similar numbers of complaints from those using OEM inks. Since my printers have expensive replaceable print heads, even one failure would completely nullify a year's worth of savings I might get from the third party inks. Until there are clear studies which indicate that such reliability issue are not a concern, I simply won't take the leap of faith and risk possible damage.

Second, most carefully done comparative studies that i have been able to find seem to conclude that, in general, OEM inks produce better image quality and more fade resistant prints. Sometimes the third party inks have done comparable jobs concerning image quality, but often that equality is limited to a specific brand or model of printer, and does not necessarily transfer across to other brand printers or models. In almost all instances, OEM prints have been found to have longer archival life, being more resistant to both UV and ozone related fading. My needs are for the highest image quality and archival characteristics that I can achieve given my printers, and from my research OEM inks better provide this.

Third, I make use of ICC profiles religiously. Using these profiles allows me to get consistent color reproduction which matches my monitor across my printers and paper choices. Most paper manufacturers do provide ICC profiles specifically built for use with a specific printer, using their paper and OEM inks. I have only come across one third party ink manufacturer who produces printer profiles for their ink (ConeColor - but only for Epson printers). While there are some who claim that they can get spot on color consistency from an uncalibrated monitor and across different printers and papers without ICC profiles, personally I am at a loss as to how to do that with the consistency I demand. I could invest in the hardware to create my own ICC profiles, or pay to have them made for me (about $25 a shot), but that would pretty much negate the savings. So, if you have a need for consistency across printers and papers, sticking with OEM inks seems a better way to go, IMHO.

In summary, IF you feel that the lower cost of the third party inks justify 1) the chance of risk damage and/or possible replacement of your printer, 2) documented losses in print quality and (in almost all instances) fade resistance, and 3) you do not feel it is important to use ICC profiling as part of your color management routine, then maybe third party inks will fit your bill. If the savings is outweighed by any of the reasons I've stated, then maybe sticking with OEM inks should be your choice.
I don't presume to tell people what they should or... (show quote)


This response is why I love this forum. Though I use 3rd party inks in my Epson, I am not printing product for clients, that I leave to pro labs. For my home, non-professional use, the 3rd party inks have been very good and by the sounds of the above research, I'm lucky to not have had any problems with my printer. I guess it is just one of those issues that one has to decide for themselves after some experimenting! Thanks for that well reasoned response Photographer Jim!

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Sep 9, 2013 17:58:16   #
WayneL Loc: Baltimore Md
 
I have always used 3rd party ink in all my Canon printers.A$6-7 bottle fills the cartridge 5 or six times

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Sep 9, 2013 18:19:45   #
rbweddle
 
I have used LD Products and had good results. Good prices and quick delivery

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Sep 9, 2013 18:27:01   #
WayneL Loc: Baltimore Md
 
rbweddle wrote:
I have used LD Products and had good results. Good prices and quick delivery

That is who I use

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Sep 9, 2013 18:57:17   #
DaveD65 Loc: Queen City, Ohio
 
For anyone who may have checked my profile you probably noticed that I was a printing ink chemist for over 32 years. My specialty was web/offset oil based publication grade inks. While there is quite a difference from inkjet or die/sublimation inks the competition is no different in the entire ink industry. It was a constant battle analyzing, copying, duplicating and matching the competitors products, I'm sure the ink jet industry is no different. Nothing ever left my production facilities with passing through strict QC and then a final check before ever leaving for the customer. We made batches that were thousands of pounds. Inkjet ink is made in much smaller batches and from what I understand is subjected to a far more rigorous quality control than I was used to. When my ink didn't work we could make needed adjustments for the customer. When ink jet ink doesn't work it is subject to the distribution of the product and the possible malfunction of the printer and those of us who rely on good printers, the ink maker knows he can't screw up. Jet ink has to be exactly right or he is out of business.

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Sep 9, 2013 19:29:55   #
brotherslim1 Loc: cincinnati area
 
I always buy ink on ebay and have always been happy and get good results. I take many pictures at our church and often time make prints for different families. I take all the babtism pictures and make prints for them. I can not tell the difference with the so called cheap ink and the manufactures....I just put in an order today on ebay for 18 cartriges of in for canon 6220 for 17.80.. my canon printer holds 6 and 1 cartridge at target is about 17.00 dollars....I have been buying cheap ink for about 5 or 6 years and I had 1 defective cartridge that was leaking I through away.......

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