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Dec 30, 2011 01:19:20   #
johnnyg67 Loc: Northwest Georgia
 
Jay Pat wrote:
This bride & Groom wanted to talk to each other before the ceremony. The catch was to do so without seeing each other.
They decided to do this with a door between each other. They reached out and held hands as their big moment was fast approaching. They spoke briefly.
Then the Groom said to his Bride, "Lets Pray", and they did.
There were a lot of people to the side and behind me, talking and watching. Everyone got very quiet. There were a lot of teary eyed people watching when the amens were said.
It was a very tender, loving and special moment for everyone that saw this.
I got the shot for them.
This bride & Groom wanted to talk to each othe... (show quote)


Great picture Jay! I think it will be one of the most special moments photographed there for sure. As someone mentioned before I too have always offered the option of doing the pictures before the wedding so the bride and groom can make it to the reception without picture pressures. I try to make it a special thing though by having the groom wait in the auditorium (no guest inside) then I ask the bride to go in with him. No one is allowed to be with them. They have a few minutes to talk and he can tell her how beautiful she is instead of the rush that normally goes along with things that day. Many have said that they really like it that way. Its just an option that helps things go smoothly. Of course I have to arrive a couple of hours early but that's ok.

I honestly think that the "not seeing the bride beforehand thing" was from the "Pre-arranged wedding era???" Where the poor groom had no idea what the heck he was getting into until the veil was lifted! lol Too late to run then huh? OK women probably wanted to run too at times. Anyway great moment and great shot for sure! :thumbup:

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Dec 30, 2011 11:10:16   #
Hershel Loc: New York City
 
If as the saying goes "A picture is worth a thousand words", then this one is an encyclopedia.

Hershel K. Waldner
B&H Photo, Video, Pro Audio

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Dec 30, 2011 12:06:22   #
candick Loc: Tampa Bay
 
They will make their luck, he made their picture. Beautiful shot.

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Dec 30, 2011 22:06:04   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
tk wrote:
My daughter got married recently and we took shots before the ceremony. The picture of her walking up behind him for the first look was priceless. She was so excited for him to see her in the dress but wasn't nervous about the ceremony. It is everyone's favorite shot. I would always suggest that private moment before the ceremony.

And Jay, thanks for the good cry. I needed it.


My daughter did the same and it made for a very nice ceremony and she and her new husband could go directly to the reception after the wedding. I was not so sure when she told me about doing it that way, but I would recommend it now.

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Dec 30, 2011 22:07:15   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Jay Pat wrote:
This bride & Groom wanted to talk to each other before the ceremony. The catch was to do so without seeing each other.
They decided to do this with a door between each other. They reached out and held hands as their big moment was fast approaching. They spoke briefly.
Then the Groom said to his Bride, "Lets Pray", and they did.
There were a lot of people to the side and behind me, talking and watching. Everyone got very quiet. There were a lot of teary eyed people watching when the amens were said.
It was a very tender, loving and special moment for everyone that saw this.
I got the shot for them.
This bride & Groom wanted to talk to each othe... (show quote)


Beautiful.

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Dec 30, 2011 22:15:19   #
Laura'sImages
 
Jay Pat wrote:
This bride & Groom wanted to talk to each other before the ceremony. The catch was to do so without seeing each other.
They decided to do this with a door between each other. They reached out and held hands as their big moment was fast approaching. They spoke briefly.
Then the Groom said to his Bride, "Lets Pray", and they did.
There were a lot of people to the side and behind me, talking and watching. Everyone got very quiet. There were a lot of teary eyed people watching when the amens were said.
It was a very tender, loving and special moment for everyone that saw this.
I got the shot for them.
This bride & Groom wanted to talk to each othe... (show quote)

Brilliant comes to mind when first looking at this image! In taking another look you see the innocence almost shyness from the bride, and the pride from the groom. So much emotion captured here. This is what photography is all about.

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Dec 31, 2011 08:28:50   #
Sunrisepano Loc: West Sub of Chicago
 
I have photographed many weddings professionally. I prefer the bride and groom see each other before the ceremony for many reasons. Once the timeline for the day is set, you cannot add more time for photos. In fact, you almost always lose time because certain key people cannot be found. We can add time before the ceremony, enough that we get all the photo family combinations that the couple wants.

One particular wedding I recall, I started photographing the bride as we waited for the groom. Her expressions were not very good; a certain tension in them. When the groom arrived, I cleared the room, let the the groom in and took a few expression photos of them seeing each other for the first time. Then I left and closed the door behind me. After a couple minutes, I knock, and everyone may then reenter the room. The portraits I got after this were so much better that I re-took the first portraits of the bride alone because her expression was so relaxed.

I do not understand not seeing each other before the ceremony. Today's couples live together and sometimes have one or more children together. ????

As for bad luck, a certain biblical personna worked for seven years for his future father-in-law to marry the woman of his choice. After they are married, he finds his intended bride's older sister in his bed. He works another seven years for his father-in-law so he can marry the right girl. The "bad luck" seems to be from not seeing each other before the ceremony.

At Orthodox Jewish ceremonies today, the groom will veil his bride right before the marriage ceremony. The rabbi will ask "Is this the right girl?"

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Dec 31, 2011 10:30:25   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Sunrisepano wrote:
I have photographed many weddings professionally. I prefer the bride and groom see each other before the ceremony for many reasons. Once the timeline for the day is set, you cannot add more time for photos. In fact, you almost always lose time because certain key people cannot be found. We can add time before the ceremony, enough that we get all the photo family combinations that the couple wants.

One particular wedding I recall, I started photographing the bride as we waited for the groom. Her expressions were not very good; a certain tension in them. When the groom arrived, I cleared the room, let the the groom in and took a few expression photos of them seeing each other for the first time. Then I left and closed the door behind me. After a couple minutes, I knock, and everyone may then reenter the room. The portraits I got after this were so much better that I re-took the first portraits of the bride alone because her expression was so relaxed.

I do not understand not seeing each other before the ceremony. Today's couples live together and sometimes have one or more children together. ????

As for bad luck, a certain biblical personna worked for seven years for his future father-in-law to marry the woman of his choice. After they are married, he finds his intended bride's older sister in his bed. He works another seven years for his father-in-law so he can marry the right girl. The "bad luck" seems to be from not seeing each other before the ceremony.

At Orthodox Jewish ceremonies today, the groom will veil his bride right before the marriage ceremony. The rabbi will ask "Is this the right girl?"
I have photographed many weddings professionally. ... (show quote)
Thank you for clearing that up. When I read those passages, I was 13 and it all went right over my head. Lol. In my case, There would have been no mistake as to which sister I would marry. I got the pretty one : D

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Jan 2, 2012 10:00:00   #
Hershel Loc: New York City
 
I do not understand not seeing each other before the ceremony. Today's couples live together and sometimes have one or more children together. ????

As for bad luck, a certain biblical personna worked for seven years for his future father-in-law to marry the woman of his choice. After they are married, he finds his intended bride's older sister in his bed. He works another seven years for his father-in-law so he can marry the right girl. The "bad luck" seems to be from not seeing each other before the ceremony.

At Orthodox Jewish ceremonies today, the groom will veil his bride right before the marriage ceremony. The rabbi will ask "Is this the right girl?"[/quote]

Sunrisepano,

Your use of the Bible to make your point is improper and simplistic at best and downright misleading at worst. I am a stricly observant/orthodox Jew and can tell you that most of my peers will absolutely not allow any contact whatsoever between bride and groom for a full seven days at the very least prior to the ceremony, any contact meaning even a phone call. Many will not have the groom put the veil on the bride and delegate that honor to the father of the bride and grandfathers who will bless the bride at that same time. While there are reasons that I will not go into here for this custom, it is indeed a custom and has absolutely nothing to do with bad luck. Bear in mind however, that wedding related Jewish customs go back at least 3300 years and some go back as far as the Patriarchs and Adam and Eve.

You opened your comment with "I do not understand" and that says it all. It's a matter of having some values and lines you wont cross. There are some things that you don't compromise for a photograph especially age old customs.

HERSHEL

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Jan 2, 2012 11:27:37   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Hershel wrote:
I do not understand not seeing each other before the ceremony. Today's couples live together and sometimes have one or more children together. ????

As for bad luck, a certain biblical personna worked for seven years for his future father-in-law to marry the woman of his choice. After they are married, he finds his intended bride's older sister in his bed. He works another seven years for his father-in-law so he can marry the right girl. The "bad luck" seems to be from not seeing each other before the ceremony.

At Orthodox Jewish ceremonies today, the groom will veil his bride right before the marriage ceremony. The rabbi will ask "Is this the right girl?"
I do not understand not seeing each other before t... (show quote)


Sunrisepano,

Your use of the Bible to make your point is improper and simplistic at best and downright misleading at worst. I am a stricly observant/orthodox Jew and can tell you that most of my peers will absolutely not allow any contact whatsoever between bride and groom for a full seven days at the very least prior to the ceremony, any contact meaning even a phone call. Many will not have the groom put the veil on the bride and delegate that honor to the father of the bride and grandfathers who will bless the bride at that same time. While there are reasons that I will not go into here for this custom, it is indeed a custom and has absolutely nothing to do with bad luck. Bear in mind however, that wedding related Jewish customs go back at least 3300 years and some go back as far as the Patriarchs and Adam and Eve.

You opened your comment with "I do not understand" and that says it all. It's a matter of having some values and lines you wont cross. There are some things that you don't compromise for a photograph especially age old customs.

HERSHEL[/quote] Hershel, Thank you for clearing this up even more. It shook my memory banks and what you say is exactly how I was taught. I can now remember almost word for word, what our Rabbi said about this subject. Too bad I was too young and immature to fully grasp what he was teaching us.

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Jan 2, 2012 12:01:16   #
Hershel Loc: New York City
 
tainkc wrote:
Hershel wrote:
I do not understand not seeing each other before the ceremony. Today's couples live together and sometimes have one or more children together. ????

As for bad luck, a certain biblical personna worked for seven years for his future father-in-law to marry the woman of his choice. After they are married, he finds his intended bride's older sister in his bed. He works another seven years for his father-in-law so he can marry the right girl. The "bad luck" seems to be from not seeing each other before the ceremony.

At Orthodox Jewish ceremonies today, the groom will veil his bride right before the marriage ceremony. The rabbi will ask "Is this the right girl?"
I do not understand not seeing each other before t... (show quote)


Sunrisepano,

Your use of the Bible to make your point is improper and simplistic at best and downright misleading at worst. I am a stricly observant/orthodox Jew and can tell you that most of my peers will absolutely not allow any contact whatsoever between bride and groom for a full seven days at the very least prior to the ceremony, any contact meaning even a phone call. Many will not have the groom put the veil on the bride and delegate that honor to the father of the bride and grandfathers who will bless the bride at that same time. While there are reasons that I will not go into here for this custom, it is indeed a custom and has absolutely nothing to do with bad luck. Bear in mind however, that wedding related Jewish customs go back at least 3300 years and some go back as far as the Patriarchs and Adam and Eve.

You opened your comment with "I do not understand" and that says it all. It's a matter of having some values and lines you wont cross. There are some things that you don't compromise for a photograph especially age old customs.

HERSHEL
quote=Hershel I do not understand not seeing each... (show quote)
Hershel, Thank you for clearing this up even more. It shook my memory banks and what you say is exactly how I was taught. I can now remember almost word for word, what our Rabbi said about this subject. Too bad I was too young and immature to fully grasp what he was teaching us.[/quote]

tainkc,

Thank you for your kind words. Ordinarily I would not want to turn this into a religious disscussion but I just can't let ignorance reign and have all the readers misled. To be honest, what really burned me up was his/her using "couples live together and sometimes have one or more children together" as some kind of warped rationale for changing custom.

All the best to you and yours and may the New Year bring you all the blessings of Health, Peace, Joy and Prosperity.

HERSHEL

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Jan 2, 2012 12:49:40   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Hershel wrote:
tainkc wrote:
Hershel wrote:
I do not understand not seeing each other before the ceremony. Today's couples live together and sometimes have one or more children together. ????

As for bad luck, a certain biblical personna worked for seven years for his future father-in-law to marry the woman of his choice. After they are married, he finds his intended bride's older sister in his bed. He works another seven years for his father-in-law so he can marry the right girl. The "bad luck" seems to be from not seeing each other before the ceremony.

At Orthodox Jewish ceremonies today, the groom will veil his bride right before the marriage ceremony. The rabbi will ask "Is this the right girl?"
I do not understand not seeing each other before t... (show quote)


Sunrisepano,

Your use of the Bible to make your point is improper and simplistic at best and downright misleading at worst. I am a stricly observant/orthodox Jew and can tell you that most of my peers will absolutely not allow any contact whatsoever between bride and groom for a full seven days at the very least prior to the ceremony, any contact meaning even a phone call. Many will not have the groom put the veil on the bride and delegate that honor to the father of the bride and grandfathers who will bless the bride at that same time. While there are reasons that I will not go into here for this custom, it is indeed a custom and has absolutely nothing to do with bad luck. Bear in mind however, that wedding related Jewish customs go back at least 3300 years and some go back as far as the Patriarchs and Adam and Eve.

You opened your comment with "I do not understand" and that says it all. It's a matter of having some values and lines you wont cross. There are some things that you don't compromise for a photograph especially age old customs.

HERSHEL
quote=Hershel I do not understand not seeing each... (show quote)
Hershel, Thank you for clearing this up even more. It shook my memory banks and what you say is exactly how I was taught. I can now remember almost word for word, what our Rabbi said about this subject. Too bad I was too young and immature to fully grasp what he was teaching us.
quote=tainkc quote=Hershel I do not understand n... (show quote)


tainkc,

Thank you for your kind words. Ordinarily I would not want to turn this into a religious disscussion but I just can't let ignorance reign and have all the readers misled. To be honest, what really burned me up was his/her using "couples live together and sometimes have one or more children together" as some kind of warped rationale for changing custom.

All the best to you and yours and may the New Year bring you all the blessings of Health, Peace, Joy and Prosperity.

HERSHEL[/quote] Thank you Hershel. Same to you and yours.

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Jan 2, 2012 13:44:52   #
rballard29 Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
Enough already. Can we get back to discussing the photo?

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Jan 2, 2012 14:27:22   #
johnnyg67 Loc: Northwest Georgia
 
Hey folks this should all go back to the photo taken to start the thread (even though I commented earlier about pre-wedding photography and how I prefer that, it in no way was putting down this couples choice. It was simply my preference). The first photo here is very nice and actually a touching picture before the wedding. The whole thing about doing the pictures before the wedding to me is always the couples choice to make without pressure from me. Traditions are a good thing for those that want to honor them. For those that are willing to break with tradition (not their faith or beliefs) then it makes the photography part much easier for everyone. But I always stress to the couple..."its your choice because its your day". I'm hired to capture the day.

For the couple pictured it was their choice and thanks to Jay, it turned into a very nice shot.

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Jan 2, 2012 14:36:10   #
MissLauraLee Loc: Indiana
 
That is a great shot! it did bring tears to my eyes!thanks for sharing!

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