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Aug 30, 2013 11:29:25   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I to have tested it and it works just like a crop camera. I put the Nikon 18-200mm on the D800 and the resulting picture was like I took it from my D7000.

MtnMan wrote:
Sorry, but you are wrong.

You obviously haven't tested any yourself. I have.

Don't repeat what others say. Try it yourself. Then you can provide useful input to others.

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Aug 30, 2013 14:30:08   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Brucej67 wrote:
I to have tested it and it works just like a crop camera. I put the Nikon 18-200mm on the D800 and the resulting picture was like I took it from my D7000.


That suggests you have the D800 to automatically detect a DX lens and set the picture area to DX (Auto DX Crop). That is the default. See p. 79 of the manual.

If you go to the Image Area menu item and turn it off then you can select from four options:
1. Full FX
2. 1.2 Crop
3. 8x10 (4x5)
4. DX
I have set my function button to bring up that menu.

You'll likely find significant vignetting in full FX mode with that lens, possibly at both the high and low end of zoom. You probably won't see much vignetting in the two intermediate modes (which I estimate engage about 24MP on a D800).

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Aug 30, 2013 14:39:01   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I have only done this with DX mode, it might be worth trying the others as you suggest just to see what they look like. Thanks.

MtnMan wrote:
That suggests you have the D800 to automatically detect a DX lens and set the picture area to DX (Auto DX Crop). That is the default. See p. 79 of the manual.

If you go to the Image Area menu item and turn it off then you can select from four options:
1. Full FX
2. 1.2 Crop
3. 8x10 (4x5)
4. DX
I have set my function button to bring up that menu.

You'll likely find significant vignetting in full FX mode with that lens, possibly at both the high and low end of zoom. You probably won't see much vignetting in the two intermediate modes (which I estimate engage about 24MP on a D800).
That suggests you have the D800 to automatically d... (show quote)

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Aug 30, 2013 14:53:51   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Brucej67 wrote:
I have only done this with DX mode, it might be worth trying the others as you suggest just to see what they look like. Thanks.


BTW you can also set up the viewfinder to gray the areas not included in the current Image Area. Otherwise it just shows a box. Graying it helps me not forget where I have it set.

But I forgot where that setting is...it is a bit odd to find.

BTW I mostly use the image area feature to employ DX cropping on my FX Sigma 150-500 when I am photographing wildlife, which is why I put it on my function button. I'll be using it the other way (to set FX mode for a DX lens) my 10-24 next week in Yellowstone. It works fine on the D800 in FX mode above about 18mm...which is about as wide an angle as you want on an FX anyway.

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Aug 30, 2013 14:56:50   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
MtnMan wrote:
BTW you can also set up the viewfinder to gray the areas not included in the current Image Area. Otherwise it just shows a box. Graying it helps me not forget where I have it set.

But I forgot where that setting is...it is a bit odd to find.


Thanks for that.
It would make it easier to see.

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Aug 30, 2013 15:04:29   #
boydimages Loc: California
 
eralph wrote:
I have a Nikon D7000 but am considering a D600 for Real estate photography. First Question- Will I still be able to use the Lens's that I use on My D7000? and Is the picture quality better on the D600. I Shoot RAW on the D7000 but in order to put them on MLS I have to shrink them to about 800X 600 after converting them to jpg. I do keep larger files for magazine covers and other advertising. I use a Sigma 10X20 now so how will that convert (IF it fits) on the D600. Appreciate all suggestions. I also shoot up to 9 AEB.
I have a Nikon D7000 but am considering a D600 for... (show quote)


If you are shooting only Real Estate the answer is what you already have, D7000. You will not see any advantage in upgrading to the D600. The quality from the D600 is only apparent if you want large wall hanging images. You are already downsizing the images you don't need more megapixels.
I have used the crop lenses on my D600. No advantage, the FF will crop the image in camera. So, you get the same image as if shot with the D7000.

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Aug 30, 2013 15:07:34   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
boydimages wrote:
If you are shooting only Real Estate the answer is what you already have, D7000. You will not see any advantage in upgrading to the D600. The quality from the D600 is only apparent if you want large wall hanging images. You are already downsizing the images you don't need more megapixels.
I have used the crop lenses on my D600. No advantage, the FF will crop the image in camera. So, you get the same image as if shot with the D7000.


Does the D600 not have the other image areas that the D800 has; i.e. 1.2 crop and 8x10?

In any case the suggestion isn't complete. Even in FX mode DX zoom lenses won't show the vignetting over some of their range in FX mode. For example my 10-24 doesn't show it above 18 mm...which is perfect for an FX anyway.

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Sep 3, 2013 16:17:56   #
eralph Loc: Kerrville, TX
 
You are probably right to some degree (about getting a new camera). There is a guy in town that uses a full frame for Real Estate and for some reason the photo's look just a little better. I have been unable to duplicate what he has done. it seems that my photo's are not quite as sharp. probably the Lens!.. Thanks For your response

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Sep 3, 2013 16:22:24   #
eralph Loc: Kerrville, TX
 
Appreciate That.. I am thinking it is the lens. I need to do a lens test to see what the problem is. Not very sharp pics from what I desire.
Have a great day and thanks again. My wife will be happy to hear I don't need another camera. Still wanting a Full Frame!!!!

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Sep 3, 2013 16:26:08   #
eralph Loc: Kerrville, TX
 
Thanks and sorry about that!

riverlass wrote:
Please use "Quote reply" so we know who you are responding too. Thanks.

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Sep 3, 2013 17:53:02   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
eralph wrote:
Appreciate That.. I am thinking it is the lens. I need to do a lens test to see what the problem is. Not very sharp pics from what I desire.
Have a great day and thanks again. My wife will be happy to hear I don't need another camera. Still wanting a Full Frame!!!!


Sorry to squash a reason to get a full-frame camera and lenses... Now if you were going to go into the portrait business (shallow depth of field), covert ops (high ISO image quality) or large display prints ( more resolution), you might win the argument.

You can rent lenses- there are several places here in the US.
I use RentGlass because I can pick up and return in person but they will all ship.

http://www.rentglass.com/

http://www.lensrentals.com/?gclid=CMTaldeasLkCFbE7MgodAnkA7w\

http://www.borrowlenses.com/?mkwid=sUzD8tLmh_dc&pcrid=30708541486&pkw=lens%20rental&pmt=e&gclid=CNm_kN2asLkCFek7MgodtB0A3A

http://www.lensgiant.com/

You can also rent cameras, but don't rent a full-frame unless you are ready to buy one...just sayin'

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