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Sep 3, 2013 15:13:33   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
I do not have a dog in the fight because I use Pentax and love it but if I was choosing between Nikon and Canon I would probably choose Nikon because there is one thing that Canon is behind in IQ at higher ISO on their crop sensor cameras.

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Sep 3, 2013 15:15:11   #
olcoach Loc: Oregon
 
I love my Canon stuff and it meets my needs. For me, that is all that matters as Canon Vs Nikon is a meaningless discussion as no-one is ever going to win it. Just as there are Ford/ Chevy folks, Coke/Pepsi folks and Honda/Toyota people the twain ain't never going to meet. Now get out there and shoot something!

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Sep 3, 2013 15:15:19   #
Bill gomberg
 
Effate wrote:
Nice antidote, but if you read tests from independent labs you will find that both companies have what are considered epic pieces of glass (that being said you can get a bad copy of any lens including zeiss). Nikon may have jumped slightly ahead in the pixel war and slightly better dynamic range in D800 vs. 5d mk III but the one DX and white superteles are still the majority at any sporting venue. Additionally, even the D800 vs. 5d mk III comparison, the 5D Mk III is probably a more versatile shooter sharing the 65 point auto focus that the I DX employs. I would venture to say that dollar for dollar they are still equal and most people make their buying decision on how heavily they are invested in glass.
Nice antidote, but if you read tests from independ... (show quote)


" Antidote " for what ?

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Sep 3, 2013 16:01:18   #
StephenVL Loc: Los Angeles, USA
 
Bill gomberg wrote:
" Antidote " for what ?


I am sure he meant "anecdote". I am all for friendly corrections. but please, no grammar police here.

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Sep 3, 2013 16:10:52   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
StephenVL wrote:
I am sure he meant "anecdote". I am all for friendly corrections. but please, no grammar police here.


Not real sure I see much more merit in you correcting Gomberg than him correcting Effate.

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Sep 3, 2013 16:24:13   #
dmeyer Loc: Marion, NC
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I think you mean the D7100 as Nikon does not make a D7200.
The D5200 and D7100 share the exact same Toshiba 24MP sensor. The D7100 has considerable better build quality, weather sealing, internal AF drive motor and double SD card slots. The D5200 costs quite a bit less and has a flip-out LCD screen.
In the past two months I have taken 5 Canons in on trade for Nikon bodies, at least 8 Nikons in on Newer Nikon bodies, and yet to have a customer inquire at all about trading a Nikon in on a Canon body. That says a lot to me as I offer a full line of both brands for sale and rent. Every Canon body in my store except the 6D has been acquired through trade-in on Nikon products.
I think you mean the D7100 as Nikon does not make ... (show quote)


I didn't get through all 5 pages of responses, so sorry if this has been addressed already. I believe there is one significant difference between the D5200's sensor and the D7100's--the D7100 sensor has no low pass filter and should, in theory, have an edge on sharpness over the D5200.

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Sep 3, 2013 16:27:41   #
CSI Dave Loc: Arizona
 
dmeyer2m wrote:
I didn't get through all 5 pages of responses, so sorry if this has been addressed already. I believe there is one significant difference between the D5200's sensor and the D7100's--the D7100 sensor has no low pass filter and should, in theory, have an edge on sharpness over the D5200.


I mentioned it just a little while ago, but I'm surprised it didn't come up sooner.

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Sep 3, 2013 16:48:03   #
Schwabbie28 Loc: Crested Butte, Colorado
 
I wish you would not coarsen the discussion with the scatalogical adjective. Are you smarter than that? Or not?

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Sep 3, 2013 16:56:05   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Schwabbie28 wrote:
I wish you would not coarsen the discussion with the scatalogical adjective. Are you smarter than that? Or not?


If you are responding to a particular post, please use the "Quote Reply" tab, otherwise your post seems unattached and senseless in nature.

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Sep 3, 2013 17:06:01   #
majeskiphoto Loc: Hamilton, Ontario
 
I love to hear the arguments over Canon vs Nikon, the vast majority really don't much about the competitor in real everyday use. The Heart and Soul of a camera, is the Sensor, right now Nikon may have the edge, but credit doesn't go to Nikon, it goes to Sony, it's their technology and production that Nikon has to borrow and depend on. Canon on the other hand produces most everything themselves, including the lenses and most of the glass that goes in them, Canon has always been on the leading edge, almost always the innovator, and will always come back on top. Canons main competitor for the future will be Sony, and they have some very good offerings even now. On the Sensor alone, Sony probably makes almost as much profit when a Sony/Nikon is sold as Nikon does?

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Sep 3, 2013 17:14:25   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
majeskiphoto wrote:
I love to hear the arguments over Canon vs Nikon, the vast majority really don't much about the competitor in real everyday use. The Heart and Soul of a camera, is the Sensor, right now Nikon may have the edge, but credit doesn't go to Nikon, it goes to Sony, it's their technology and production that Nikon has to borrow and depend on. Canon on the other hand produces most everything themselves, including the lenses and most of the glass that goes in them, Canon has always been on the leading edge, almost always the innovator, and will always come back on top. Canons main competitor for the future will be Sony, and they have some very good offerings even now. On the Sensor alone, Sony probably makes almost as much profit when a Sony/Nikon is sold as Nikon does?
I love to hear the arguments over Canon vs Nikon, ... (show quote)


While Nikon does use several Sony manufactured sensors, they are all designed by Nikon Engineers and manufacturing is sub-contracted to Sony as well as Toshiba. Nikon also makes several of their sensors themselves. Its all a matter of cost effectiveness. If Toshiba or Sony can manufacture a Nikon designed sensor for less than Nikon can do it in house, whats the issue? It allows for market diversity and results in some EXTREMELY sharp sensors. Just look at DXO Marks sensor quality tests and see whose cameras fill the majority of the top spots there:
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Ratings

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Sep 3, 2013 17:24:18   #
saichiez Loc: Beautiful Central Oregon
 
MagicMark wrote:
I've been shooting with Canon for over 30 years now and I'm considering a "cropped sensor" DSLR by Nikon.

I was wondering...

What's the difference between Nikon's d5200 sensor and the d7200 sensor?

and...

Does the 7200 have a vari-angle screen?

Thanks in advance for the input! :)


Following other's leazds, the Nikon 7200 is the first and only Nikon to have removed the low pass filter, making the 7200 the leader in image sharpness out of the camera. The 5200 is using the conventional low pass AA filtering system that has been smearing sharpness from all digital cameras that use it, which means all other Nikons except for the "neutralized" AA filtering of the D800E.

Probably ranks as the sharpest mid to pro DSLR in the digital industry. The 5200 may have the same sensor, but it still has the sharpness smearing AA Low Pass filter.

Much documented on the internet. See Nikon D7200 advantages of NO aa filter. Should be a "no brainer" decision after you begin to understand the movement to remove or weaken LowPass AA filtering.

I've done my homework. Will never buy another digital camera with AA Low Pass filtering.

Unfortunately, like the mirrorless trend, this movement to reduce or remove AA filtering is another evolution that Canon is dropping the ball on. Terrible when you think you are King and quit evolving.

Took Nikon long enough on both technologies. Olympus made this move 3-4 years ago, but then Oly has always been more creative than most.

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Sep 3, 2013 17:27:09   #
StephenVL Loc: Los Angeles, USA
 
I have a Sony NEX-6 and a Sony A55. My brother has a Nikon D7000. All three cameras have the same sensor manufactured by Sony. What is different is each manufacturer has their own software for processing what the sensor captures. My brother swears he gets better results on his Nikon. I am not convinced. We both agree that the results are better than we had before with our camera's predecessors.

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Sep 3, 2013 17:49:43   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
StephenVL wrote:
I have a Sony NEX-6 and a Sony A55. My brother has a Nikon D7000. All three cameras have the same sensor manufactured by Sony. What is different is each manufacturer has their own software for processing what the sensor captures. My brother swears he gets better results on his Nikon. I am not convinced. We both agree that the results are better than we had before with our camera's predecessors.

Actually they are NOT the same sensors. The Sony built Nikon sensor is only used in the Nikon D5100, Nikon D7000 and Nikon Coolpix A, it is a net 16.2MP sensor with a gross sensor count of 16.9MP and 23.6mm x 15.6mm sensor size (the outer pixels are masked and not used to produce the finished image). The Sony's have a 16.2MP Sony patented sensor with a gross sensor count of 16.7MP and a physical size of only 23.5mm x 15.6mm. The similarities in physical dimensions are close, but they are definitely different sensors. Simply the 16.2MP dimension in sales advertising does not mean they are the same sensor by any means.

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Sep 3, 2013 17:55:21   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Very glad that it is much documented on the internet and that you have really done your homework.
Could you provide us with a link to the D7200 camera and its' specifications? :-)
saichiez wrote:
Following other's leazds, the Nikon 7200 is the first and only Nikon to have removed the low pass filter, making the 7200 the leader in image sharpness out of the camera. The 5200 is using the conventional low pass AA filtering system that has been smearing sharpness from all digital cameras that use it, which means all other Nikons except for the "neutralized" AA filtering of the D800E.

Probably ranks as the sharpest mid to pro DSLR in the digital industry. The 5200 may have the same sensor, but it still has the sharpness smearing AA Low Pass filter.

Much documented on the internet. See Nikon D7200 advantages of NO aa filter. Should be a "no brainer" decision after you begin to understand the movement to remove or weaken LowPass AA filtering.

I've done my homework. Will never buy another digital camera with AA Low Pass filtering.

Unfortunately, like the mirrorless trend, this movement to reduce or remove AA filtering is another evolution that Canon is dropping the ball on. Terrible when you think you are King and quit evolving.

Took Nikon long enough on both technologies. Olympus made this move 3-4 years ago, but then Oly has always been more creative than most.
Following other's leazds, the Nikon 7200 is the fi... (show quote)

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