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Right to take pictures
Aug 28, 2013 12:16:10 #
Fkaufman3 wrote:
Went shopping in mall in Cincinnati today and was taking pictures of sky lites and main public area. Rent a cop security told me to stop as I was infringing on stores copywrite laws. I asked if it was poking to take pictures of the mall itself. No! Was nice and polite, I put cap on camera and continued.
I ran into a similar situation at the local mall. I bought a new bridge camera and wanted some inside shots with good color. I thought the signs in the food court at the mall would work well.
The mall cop told me pictures weren't allowed. When I asked why, he said customers objected to having pictures taken of them or their children. I was shooting restaurant signs ten feet up but didn't debate the point.
Aug 28, 2013 12:18:45 #
nicelights
Loc: 30 miles east of LA
Competition IS fierce! Last year a lighting company here in California won "Best of Show" at the Lighting World convention for a new LED wall washer they had........30 days later they got a reverse engineered sample from China with an offer to be the source manufacturer for their light.
Trade shows are always a problem. Do you show your new product and sell it or do you show it and it gets stolen.
Trade shows are always a problem. Do you show your new product and sell it or do you show it and it gets stolen.
Aug 28, 2013 12:54:08 #
Doddy wrote:
I had the same trouble in Durham Cathedral over here, I took one shot inside and I was jumped on immediately and told in no uncertain terms that photography was banned, then I swear I was followed around, I felt that uncomfortable I went outside.It was obvious they wanted you to go into the Cathedral shop and purchase their Photo's!!
I was in Edingurgh for a wedding a couple years ago.
The wedding was in St. Giles Cathederal.
They had a very prominent sign, for the tourists, that it cost 2 pounds or euros, don't remember, if you wanted to take pictures. A nice little fund raiser for them.
So, I waited till the wedding and took all the poictures I wanted without paying.....as well as everyone else, of course.
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Aug 28, 2013 12:54:57 #
FredB
Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.
jimmya wrote:
Well, not exactly. A mall is indeed private property, but it's open to public thoroughfare, as they say, and people are welcome to enter the property (with the intent to shop, obviously.) Your driveway is not a 'public thoroughfare', and the general public is not expressly invited to enter it. Well in the mall you are on private property as in standing in someone's driveway.
Mall owners can, and do, regulate the behavior of people entering their property - e.g., "No solicitation or handbills", et cet. They invite you to go there, walk around, and maybe even buy some piece of cheap junk at the Sunglass Hut or whatever. But they DO have the right (even if it's stupid) to prohibit photography.
I didn't read that Mohammed Atta and his band of idiots walked all over the WTC with DSLRs before they attacked. I DID see where they went to flying school. I have not heard of the government closing any flying schools, however.
Aug 28, 2013 14:47:34 #
I spent a few days in Rome recently (the Italian one) and was very surprised that photography was allowed virtually everywhere and my wife will attest to the fact that we went "everywhere." The only place that no photography at all was allowed was the Sistine Chapel (didn't stop a few oiks from using their phones though) but other than that there were few restrictions. A couple of places asked you not to use flash and naturally some people chose to ignore that (or else they didn't know how to turn the flash off).
Interesting thread.
Interesting thread.
Aug 28, 2013 14:57:02 #
bobbybob wrote:
(or else they didn't know how to turn the flash off).
Typical of the P&S crowd (although nobody here would do that, would they!)
Aug 28, 2013 15:07:08 #
photoman022
Loc: Manchester CT USA
Ralloh wrote:
If you had any idea of the crap these people have to put up with every day from Mr. and Mrs. Citizen, you might think differently. Many are well educated and this is a second job, or, they are going to school.
I'm not meaning to blast you or others who make these comments about security guards. I'm just a bit close to one and know who they are.
I'm not meaning to blast you or others who make these comments about security guards. I'm just a bit close to one and know who they are.
I agree. I spent my summer between college and seminary working as a mall rent-a-cop. Some of the security guards were poorly educated and some of us were working our way through school (at poorly paid jobs, at that).
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Aug 28, 2013 16:52:47 #
APB wrote:
I always feel slightly ambivalent about this.
Yes, these are fantastic architectural sites often with stunning interiors, but their prime function is as a place of worship and while we as individuals may be sensitive to that, the prospect of dozens of flashlights going off can't add to the sanctity of the cathedrals.
Yes, these are fantastic architectural sites often with stunning interiors, but their prime function is as a place of worship and while we as individuals may be sensitive to that, the prospect of dozens of flashlights going off can't add to the sanctity of the cathedrals.
I can understand a ban on flash...but this same Cathedral let the BBC film an episode of a George Gently Police drama inside where a murder took place by Gunfire!!! ...hows that for sanctity!!.
Aug 28, 2013 16:58:55 #
sbesaw
Loc: Boston
Doddy wrote:
I can understand a ban on flash...but this same Cathedral let the BBC film an episode of a George Gently Police drama inside where a murder took place by Gunfire!!! ...hows that for sanctity!!.
Bet they made a pretty farthing on that one.
Aug 28, 2013 17:05:46 #
sbesaw wrote:
Bet they made a pretty farthing on that one.
You bet sbesaw..I e-mailed the Cathedral to ask why I was stopped taking a photo (without flash) when they allowed the BBC in to film a murder...no reply!!!
Aug 28, 2013 17:31:08 #
Doddy wrote:
I had the same trouble in Durham Cathedral over here, I took one shot inside and I was jumped on immediately and told in no uncertain terms that photography was banned, then I swear I was followed around, I felt that uncomfortable I went outside.It was obvious they wanted you to go into the Cathedral shop and purchase their Photo's!!
Same experience myself at Durham. Yet went to Norwich, they couldn't have been more different. Very helpful and encouraging. Guess who got the (large) donation? Ely good too.
Aug 28, 2013 17:58:35 #
chebe48
Loc: Leicestershire England
Lincoln Cathedral ask for a donation of £4.50 to photograph and this is valid for 12 months. Not unreasonable considering the upkeep of the building costs a fortune. I have no issues with paying to photograph in Churches and Cathedrals.
Aug 28, 2013 18:29:27 #
chrisscholbe wrote:
I was in Edingurgh for a wedding a couple years ago. The wedding was in St. Giles Cathederal.
They had a very prominent sign, for the tourists, that it cost 2 pounds or euros, don't remember, if you wanted to take pictures. A nice little fund raiser for them.
So, I waited till the wedding and took all the poictures I wanted without paying.....as well as everyone else, of course.
They had a very prominent sign, for the tourists, that it cost 2 pounds or euros, don't remember, if you wanted to take pictures. A nice little fund raiser for them.
So, I waited till the wedding and took all the poictures I wanted without paying.....as well as everyone else, of course.
A small price to pay for the pic's you want.
Street pedlers or buskers (which quite often are good subjects) usually say thanks when I put a couple of coins in their caps.
Aug 28, 2013 18:58:42 #
I don't want to muddy the water but whem private property is used by the public I believe public laws prevail. When you go to the supermarket it is private property. Drive irresponsibly, you will get a ticket because the public is using this property. If a Mall prohibits photography they should post it for all to see not delegate it to a rent a cop he has other things to do. If you are taking a picture to publish you should get permission I'm writing if your taking a shot for your personal enjoyment, I do not think copyright applies.
Aug 28, 2013 20:11:55 #
On the Amish Mafia show yesterday, one of the "Mafia" hoods stopped a tourist from taking photos of Amish life by declaiming that in doing so the photographer was violating their right of privacy.
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