evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
Okay. Having been there I don't know what your immediate surroundings are or if you have to travel to "get there." I'd like to see a picture of that house with the hootch bottles in the far-ground with a camera, p&s or whatever, in the near-ground if that's doable, either early morning or late evening whichever offers the best lighting. I'd also like to see a shot down on the camera with a far background of the scene, getting the lake and possibly the mountains if they're close enough for that lens.
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I guess you're not understanding the challenge. If I put the focusing distance at 3' with an apreture of f22 and ISO 100 and then place my camera 5 inches off of the ground with my lense set at 17mm my depth of field will be from 10 inches to infinity. I will have two subjects, one near the camera lens very near to the ground (if not on the ground) and one in the distant background. I will select the distant background depending on what you choose as the object of interest on the ground near the lens. Don't worry about framing the shot, framing the shot is the challenge I must meet; just send me on a scavenger hunt looking for something of your choosing to use as the subject of interest near the lens and then, if I can find what you ask for then I will proceed to seek the best view I can to frame the shot in an interesting manner; that will most likely mean moving the object from where I find it to another location and setting up the whole shot. I would consider it a fun and interesting challenge.
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Well, you may have picked out the wrong guy for this. I've never participated in a scavenger hunt and don't know much about how that works. My mind just isn't going where you want it to. It is at this point that I would say, "show me an example, or surprise me with something you like."
Let's see if we can get some other folks to chime in here. I'm just a "stick in the mud" apparently. Fact is, that between all the time I'm spending on this forum, wanting to be out shooting, but afraid I'm going to miss something in here of value, and my feet swelling from sitting here, I'm a little scattered at the moment. Perhaps at another time I wouldn't feel as distracted and could focus on "the game."
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OK, let me make it easy for you; pick something totally off the wall as a subject, make it about the size of a gallon container or smaller, A rock, a smashed can, some toy at the dollar store, an old ball, a used candle, a cow pie - the sky is the limit. Make it something that you imagin that I could never make a nice shot out of. As I said before the only thing I request is that you refrain from dead animals or rotting meat. Give it some thought for a few days, ask your wife, you need not answer right away.
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Okay, next time you're in Salt Lake, I'd like to see a shot of an empty whiskey bottle and the spire of "The Tabernacle" in the background with very few people in the picture, perhaps early in the morning or late in the evening so there'll be lights. If you think that's inappropriate then perhaps the state capitol as the backdrop. Aw, nevermind. I'll come up with something else. Let me think a little.
Yes, wide-angle shots appeal to the eye when done right, by which I mean the image minimizes object distortion or avoids obvious lack of proportion, and instead presents a sweeping view. See the images below for examples of this wide view.
In practice, regarding FL, I seek less for an effect and more for the suitability of the FL to the subject and to my intent. I deviate as circumstances dictate.
Please let me say I offer my approach here only as a description of my shooting practice.
evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Thanks for kind words. For balance I must add that some of the visual attraction of these photos results from careful post-processing -- stating the obvious. Upfront, I try for an interesting subject and a good exposure.
There's nothing like a good wide angle shot.
So True! I too love a good wide angle shot; it never ceases to amaze me how the minds eye can look at a wide angle photo and tune out the fact that the shot is a compressed scene.
I love shooting wide angles close to the ground with a foreground subject expanding into a background subject having sharp front to back focus. I just got my new Nikkor 17-35mm f2.8D last week so I have nothing show worthy yet, I am still learning, but I have seen it done and the results are amazing. I'll post something for your consideration as soon as I get something I especially like.
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Terraced Dwellings, Santorini (FL 37mm)
View of Winchester from Diamond Valley Lake (FL 27mm)
anotherview wrote:
Yes, wide-angle shots appeal to the eye when done right, by which I mean the image minimizes object distortion or avoids obvious lack of proportion, and instead presents a sweeping view. See the images below for examples of this wide view.
In practice, regarding FL, I seek less for an effect and more for the suitability of the FL to the subject and to my intent. I deviate as circumstances dictate.
Please let me say I offer my approach here only as a description of my shooting practice.
evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Thanks for kind words. For balance I must add that some of the visual attraction of these photos results from careful post-processing -- stating the obvious. Upfront, I try for an interesting subject and a good exposure.
There's nothing like a good wide angle shot.
So True! I too love a good wide angle shot; it never ceases to amaze me how the minds eye can look at a wide angle photo and tune out the fact that the shot is a compressed scene.
I love shooting wide angles close to the ground with a foreground subject expanding into a background subject having sharp front to back focus. I just got my new Nikkor 17-35mm f2.8D last week so I have nothing show worthy yet, I am still learning, but I have seen it done and the results are amazing. I'll post something for your consideration as soon as I get something I especially like.
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Wonderful. You've sure been blessed with trips to exotic places and you've taken full advantage of those surroundings. A real pleasure to live vicariously through your eyes and be able to encompass so much of the scene. Thank you. I don't currently have a wide angle but looking at your shots sure makes me want to go out and get one. The stuff I shoot around me here almost demands a long tele 'cause I don't want to see how close I can get to my subject matter. I probably need to broaden my view. Thanks.
gessman wrote:
evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
Okay. Having been there I don't know what your immediate surroundings are or if you have to travel to "get there." I'd like to see a picture of that house with the hootch bottles in the far-ground with a camera, p&s or whatever, in the near-ground if that's doable, either early morning or late evening whichever offers the best lighting. I'd also like to see a shot down on the camera with a far background of the scene, getting the lake and possibly the mountains if they're close enough for that lens.
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I guess you're not understanding the challenge. If I put the focusing distance at 3' with an apreture of f22 and ISO 100 and then place my camera 5 inches off of the ground with my lense set at 17mm my depth of field will be from 10 inches to infinity. I will have two subjects, one near the camera lens very near to the ground (if not on the ground) and one in the distant background. I will select the distant background depending on what you choose as the object of interest on the ground near the lens. Don't worry about framing the shot, framing the shot is the challenge I must meet; just send me on a scavenger hunt looking for something of your choosing to use as the subject of interest near the lens and then, if I can find what you ask for then I will proceed to seek the best view I can to frame the shot in an interesting manner; that will most likely mean moving the object from where I find it to another location and setting up the whole shot. I would consider it a fun and interesting challenge.
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Well, you may have picked out the wrong guy for this. I've never participated in a scavenger hunt and don't know much about how that works. My mind just isn't going where you want it to. It is at this point that I would say, "show me an example, or surprise me with something you like."
Let's see if we can get some other folks to chime in here. I'm just a "stick in the mud" apparently. Fact is, that between all the time I'm spending on this forum, wanting to be out shooting, but afraid I'm going to miss something in here of value, and my feet swelling from sitting here, I'm a little scattered at the moment. Perhaps at another time I wouldn't feel as distracted and could focus on "the game."
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OK, let me make it easy for you; pick something totally off the wall as a subject, make it about the size of a gallon container or smaller, A rock, a smashed can, some toy at the dollar store, an old ball, a used candle, a cow pie - the sky is the limit. Make it something that you imagin that I could never make a nice shot out of. As I said before the only thing I request is that you refrain from dead animals or rotting meat. Give it some thought for a few days, ask your wife, you need not answer right away.
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Okay, next time you're in Salt Lake, I'd like to see a shot of an empty whiskey bottle and the spire of "The Tabernacle" in the background with very few people in the picture, perhaps early in the morning or late in the evening so there'll be lights. If you think that's inappropriate then perhaps the state capitol as the backdrop. Aw, nevermind. I'll come up with something else. Let me think a little.
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You go ahead and think on it but the challenge has been made and I like it, I think I know where I can get an empty whisky bottle and although I was supposed to choose the background I think the LDS Temple would make a stark contrast (yes, I am a devout Mormon). You will have to give me a few days to put it together because the Temple is in downtown Salt Lake City and that is about 40 miles away and I work 12 hour shifts most of next week but I love the idea of the statment it could make. The game is Afoot!!
As I posted earlier:
The information at these Web sites will help you decide which lens to choose.
http://www.dxomark.com/index.phphttp://www.lenstip.com/Main_pagehttp://www.photozone.de/-----
These other Web sites could help, too:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/index.shtmlhttp://www.kenrockwell.com/index.htmhttp://photo.net/donrent wrote:
bobmielke wrote:
Dolmen wrote:
Canon's 70-300 is capable of very good results,trouble is,people are unable to master it,too slow shutter speed being the most common cause of bad results.So get to know your equipment,& stop whining.
Please take this poster's comments with a grain of salt. He has posted no photographs and has listed his location as "In Hiding". When confronted in a private message about his antagonistic approach his response was that he "likes to shake up the weenies on this forum".
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Your thoughts are like mine.... I'm getting back into photography after many years out of it and also trying to figure out what the perfict lens would be... Been thinking about the 70/300 (Canon EF) , but now wondering about one in the 30/250 range... I recently obtain a Canon 650 film camera.... Sweet, sweet camera.... ( i'm a color slide type guy) Also use a Kodak 9.1 easyshare for everyday type shooting.... Any suggestions welcome...
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Oh, that not one of me..... Its one I used on a political forum I once belonged to........ Don't get me started on that subject or I immediatly turn into that critter... :shock:
donrent wrote:
Oh, that not one of me..... Its one I used on a political forum I once belonged to........ Don't get me started on that subject or I immediatly turn into that critter... :shock:
Remind me not to remind you! Thanks.
gessman: Yes, in my retirement, I've started traveling while paying attention and taking many pictures using several cameras and lenses. This activity I found both satisfying and stimulating.
In my experience, a wide-angle lens opens more photographic opportunities. And one does not have to spend a house payment for a decent one. Meanwhile, I tend to favor a mid-range zoom lens. Again, I use the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 OS lens nowadays for my walking around lens. On my Canon Rebel T2i, this lens provides an effective FL range of 27 to 112mm. I venture to say this FL range suffices for 95 percent of my photography when just walking around. B&H sells this lens for $469. I took the shot of Florence below with this combo.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/670047-REG/Sigma_668101_17_70mm_F2_8_4_DC_Macro.htmlquote=gessman]
anotherview wrote:
Yes, wide-angle shots appeal to the eye when done right, by which I mean the image minimizes object distortion or avoids obvious lack of proportion, and instead presents a sweeping view. See the images below for examples of this wide view.
In practice, regarding FL, I seek less for an effect and more for the suitability of the FL to the subject and to my intent. I deviate as circumstances dictate.
Please let me say I offer my approach here only as a description of my shooting practice.
evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Thanks for kind words. For balance I must add that some of the visual attraction of these photos results from careful post-processing -- stating the obvious. Upfront, I try for an interesting subject and a good exposure.
There's nothing like a good wide angle shot.
So True! I too love a good wide angle shot; it never ceases to amaze me how the minds eye can look at a wide angle photo and tune out the fact that the shot is a compressed scene.
I love shooting wide angles close to the ground with a foreground subject expanding into a background subject having sharp front to back focus. I just got my new Nikkor 17-35mm f2.8D last week so I have nothing show worthy yet, I am still learning, but I have seen it done and the results are amazing. I'll post something for your consideration as soon as I get something I especially like.
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Wonderful. You've sure been blessed with trips to exotic places and you've taken full advantage of those surroundings. A real pleasure to live vicariously through your eyes and be able to encompass so much of the scene. Thank you. I don't currently have a wide angle but looking at your shots sure makes me want to go out and get one. The stuff I shoot around me here almost demands a long tele 'cause I don't want to see how close I can get to my subject matter. I probably need to broaden my view. Thanks.[/quote]
Florence from Viewpoint above Arno River (2011)
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Yes, in my retirement, I've started traveling while paying attention and taking many pictures using several cameras and lenses. This activity I found both satisfying and stimulating.
In my experience, a wide-angle lens opens more photographic opportunities. And one does not have to spend a house payment for a decent one. Meanwhile, I tend to favor a mid-range zoom lens. Again, I use the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 OS lens nowadays for my walking around lens. On my Canon Rebel T2i, this lens provides an effective FL range of 27 to 112mm. I venture to say this FL range suffices for 95 percent of my photography when just walking around. B&H sells this lens for $469. I took the shot of Florence below with this combo.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/670047-REG/Sigma_668101_17_70mm_F2_8_4_DC_Macro.htmlquote=gessman]
anotherview wrote:
Yes, wide-angle shots appeal to the eye when done right, by which I mean the image minimizes object distortion or avoids obvious lack of proportion, and instead presents a sweeping view. See the images below for examples of this wide view.
In practice, regarding FL, I seek less for an effect and more for the suitability of the FL to the subject and to my intent. I deviate as circumstances dictate.
Please let me say I offer my approach here only as a description of my shooting practice.
evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Thanks for kind words. For balance I must add that some of the visual attraction of these photos results from careful post-processing -- stating the obvious. Upfront, I try for an interesting subject and a good exposure.
There's nothing like a good wide angle shot.
So True! I too love a good wide angle shot; it never ceases to amaze me how the minds eye can look at a wide angle photo and tune out the fact that the shot is a compressed scene.
I love shooting wide angles close to the ground with a foreground subject expanding into a background subject having sharp front to back focus. I just got my new Nikkor 17-35mm f2.8D last week so I have nothing show worthy yet, I am still learning, but I have seen it done and the results are amazing. I'll post something for your consideration as soon as I get something I especially like.
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Wonderful. You've sure been blessed with trips to exotic places and you've taken full advantage of those surroundings. A real pleasure to live vicariously through your eyes and be able to encompass so much of the scene. Thank you. I don't currently have a wide angle but looking at your shots sure makes me want to go out and get one. The stuff I shoot around me here almost demands a long tele 'cause I don't want to see how close I can get to my subject matter. I probably need to broaden my view. Thanks.
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Very pleasant to look at. Interesting the way the converging lines of the buildings and the mountains and even the clouds are headed for a meeting somewhere about 10 miles out of the left side of the frame. Nice work. I've done some wide stuff before, even 4x5 which I love but in my most recent transition into digital, I just haven't picked up a wide lens yet. If I have to shoot a wide shot, I pull out a 22-55 lens that came on a EOS-IX aps film camera I bought in the mid-90's. It works well and my 5D MkII somehow keeps it from vignetting which gives me some pretty wide stuff on the full sensor. You're making me want to shoot more wide stuff. My huge dilemma is keeping undesirable stuff out of the scene. There's too much undesirable clutter in urban scenes around me that I'd really like to isolate wide. I just need to quit being so lazy. I live and die by what I see on Luminous Landscape. I'm a huge fan. Thanks again.
Evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
You go ahead and think on it but the challenge has been made and I like it, I think I know where I can get an empty whisky bottle and although I was supposed to choose the background I think the LDS Temple would make a stark contrast (yes, I am a devout Mormon). You will have to give me a few days to put it together because the Temple is in downtown Salt Lake City and that is about 40 miles away and I work 12 hour shifts most of next week but I love the idea of the statment it could make. The game is Afoot!!
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Okay, I called the local liquor store and managed to get a few empty bottles of which this is one. Salt Lake City was too far away for the time I had left and I wanted to shoot the Kennecott Copper Mine from the back side anyhow (not many people know how to get to this plateau) so I decided to play around with my lens and show you what I want to do with the whiskey bottle and the Temple.
Mind you that in this picture the mine is below the bottle so I had to hand-hold it and shoot slightly down whereas when shooting in the direction of the temple the bottle will be near or sitting on the ground as will the camera and I will be shooting slightly up.
The front to back focus is from about 8 inches to infinity. I focused manually to 3 feet with a 17-35mm f/2.8 wide angle lens set at 17mm and f/22, ISO 800 for 1/80th sec. The compression of the bottle is quite evident. The bottle is almost the size of a full 5th but here it looks like a shooter. Also notice how it seems to droop on the left side. I was holding it about 12 inches in front of the lens.
Now I am anxious to go to town, I am thinking of getting an empty cigarette carton, a bottle of prescription pills, a hash pipe, (Where I will get that I don't Know) and maybe a few joints (filled with "real" grass, the kind you find in everybody's front yard), and arranging it in such a way with the Temple in the background that a caption could be used - What a contrast - Everybody worships something.
The Whiskey Bottle - I just noticed that the brand and I have the same first name. This is not done in HDR,
Here is a good example of an HDR picture that is better than any others I took, the clarity is amazing, I can see the windows on the bus when I zoom in and you can barley see the two busses from here. I combined 3 shots with a .5EV difference on each
I used Topaz Adjust in Xara in post production on this shot of the Kennecott Copper Mine with Salt Lake City in the background next to the Wasatch mountains, this was taken just a few minutes after sunset
Hiskid.58 wrote:
Some pretty good points made by all. I am a firm believer in "you get what you pay for", sort of. Most things are overpriced in my opinion,but that's another topic. I have found Sigma lenses to be quite good if you buy the better Sigma lenses, and they are much cheaper than the Canon/Nikon lenses. I have the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 and love it. I also have the Sigma 18-50 f2.8 That is also a great lens. There are a couple good independent web sites that test lenses and put up their technical scores, here are some links:
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/overviewhttp://www.dxomark.com/index.phpUnless your independently wealthy or a pro, I see no need to spend thousands of $$$$ for Canon or Nikon lenses. I do weddings with my Sigmas and I've never heard anyone complain.
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Thanks for the websites. I'm just a beginner so I find all these conversations and opinions valuable. I have a friend who always says "you get what you pay for so you might as well pay alot". I know he was just trying to be humorous, but it rings true in so many things. I will check out the sites as I am one also who can't afford the big money stuff.
gessman: Getting back to you. Yes, this view of Florence has those dynamic elements you note. Converging lines and an interesting sky can dress up an image for more eye appeal. A downpour had hit the city the day before, and some clouds had lingered. Our tour group stopped at a viewpoint overlooking this historical city, and my camera captured this shot. It has become one of my favorites. A picture-taker could spend a week or more in Florence shooting its visual beauty.
gessman wrote:
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Yes, in my retirement, I've started traveling while paying attention and taking many pictures using several cameras and lenses. This activity I found both satisfying and stimulating.
In my experience, a wide-angle lens opens more photographic opportunities. And one does not have to spend a house payment for a decent one. Meanwhile, I tend to favor a mid-range zoom lens. Again, I use the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 OS lens nowadays for my walking around lens. On my Canon Rebel T2i, this lens provides an effective FL range of 27 to 112mm. I venture to say this FL range suffices for 95 percent of my photography when just walking around. B&H sells this lens for $469. I took the shot of Florence below with this combo.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/670047-REG/Sigma_668101_17_70mm_F2_8_4_DC_Macro.htmlquote=gessman]
anotherview wrote:
Yes, wide-angle shots appeal to the eye when done right, by which I mean the image minimizes object distortion or avoids obvious lack of proportion, and instead presents a sweeping view. See the images below for examples of this wide view.
In practice, regarding FL, I seek less for an effect and more for the suitability of the FL to the subject and to my intent. I deviate as circumstances dictate.
Please let me say I offer my approach here only as a description of my shooting practice.
evandr wrote:
gessman wrote:
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Thanks for kind words. For balance I must add that some of the visual attraction of these photos results from careful post-processing -- stating the obvious. Upfront, I try for an interesting subject and a good exposure.
There's nothing like a good wide angle shot.
So True! I too love a good wide angle shot; it never ceases to amaze me how the minds eye can look at a wide angle photo and tune out the fact that the shot is a compressed scene.
I love shooting wide angles close to the ground with a foreground subject expanding into a background subject having sharp front to back focus. I just got my new Nikkor 17-35mm f2.8D last week so I have nothing show worthy yet, I am still learning, but I have seen it done and the results are amazing. I'll post something for your consideration as soon as I get something I especially like.
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Wonderful. You've sure been blessed with trips to exotic places and you've taken full advantage of those surroundings. A real pleasure to live vicariously through your eyes and be able to encompass so much of the scene. Thank you. I don't currently have a wide angle but looking at your shots sure makes me want to go out and get one. The stuff I shoot around me here almost demands a long tele 'cause I don't want to see how close I can get to my subject matter. I probably need to broaden my view. Thanks.
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Very pleasant to look at. Interesting the way the converging lines of the buildings and the mountains and even the clouds are headed for a meeting somewhere about 10 miles out of the left side of the frame. Nice work. I've done some wide stuff before, even 4x5 which I love but in my most recent transition into digital, I just haven't picked up a wide lens yet. If I have to shoot a wide shot, I pull out a 22-55 lens that came on a EOS-IX aps film camera I bought in the mid-90's. It works well and my 5D MkII somehow keeps it from vignetting which gives me some pretty wide stuff on the full sensor. You're making me want to shoot more wide stuff. My huge dilemma is keeping undesirable stuff out of the scene. There's too much undesirable clutter in urban scenes around me that I'd really like to isolate wide. I just need to quit being so lazy. I live and die by what I see on Luminous Landscape. I'm a huge fan. Thanks again.[/quote]
Street Restaurant, Florence
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Getting back to you. Yes, this view of Florence has those dynamic elements you note. Converging lines and an interesting sky can dress up an image for more eye appeal. A downpour had hit the city the day before, and some clouds had lingered. Our tour group stopped at a viewpoint overlooking this historical city, and my camera captured this shot. It has become one of my favorites. A picture-taker could spend a week or more in Florence shooting its visual beauty.
Florence is a beautiful place. Haven't been there but have noticed that. I'm a huge fan of travel progs on HD Net and
love to vicariously go where I might not otherwise. I really like the outdoor cafe you included. On first glance, it looks like it has some leaning and undulating elements but upon close examination of the straight edges on both sides, you nailed it. I think it's the up and down writing on the chalk boards that give a sense of undulation. Good job. Keep 'em coming. I'm getting inspired. I just happened to recall that I have a Sigma wide lens from back in one of my Nikon stages that I can adapt to my 5D MkII. It was sure a tack sharp film lens. I'm going to dig it out and see how it stacks up in digi. Thanks for posting your shots. Do more.
gessman: Okay, good to hear your kind comments re my photos. I like to travel with my camera ready. Road trips stimulate me for the adventure and for my seeing new places. Never had been to Europe before this summer. On returning home, things seemed flat for a few days, without the intense stimulation of European sights, culture, and food. A couple below from Delphi, where the ancient oracle spoke.
gessman wrote:
anotherview wrote:
gessman: Getting back to you. Yes, this view of Florence has those dynamic elements you note. Converging lines and an interesting sky can dress up an image for more eye appeal. A downpour had hit the city the day before, and some clouds had lingered. Our tour group stopped at a viewpoint overlooking this historical city, and my camera captured this shot. It has become one of my favorites. A picture-taker could spend a week or more in Florence shooting its visual beauty.
Florence is a beautiful place. Haven't been there but have noticed that. I'm a huge fan of travel progs on HD Net and
love to vicariously go where I might not otherwise. I really like the outdoor cafe you included. On first glance, it looks like it has some leaning and undulating elements but upon close examination of the straight edges on both sides, you nailed it. I think it's the up and down writing on the chalk boards that give a sense of undulation. Good job. Keep 'em coming. I'm getting inspired. I just happened to recall that I have a Sigma wide lens from back in one of my Nikon stages that I can adapt to my 5D MkII. It was sure a tack sharp film lens. I'm going to dig it out and see how it stacks up in digi. Thanks for posting your shots. Do more.
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