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Aug 1, 2013 10:45:54   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
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sirlensalot wrote:
There is a saying on one of the sites I looked at awhile back that stated something like " If you don't like the way your photos turned out, you weren't close enough". I found this to be a pretty good starting point for family shots and a few portraits. It's always worth a try.


That is a paraphrase.

The quote is from the famous photographer, Robert Capa.
"If your pictures aren't good enough, you aren't close enough."

http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/55202.Robert_Capa

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Aug 1, 2013 11:10:56   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
OnDSnap wrote:
:thumbup: I would have rounded up to 27.9 :)


I think you have that backward. He's already shooting large image size so if he moves 1% farther away, he would need another 102,000 pixels more than the D60 has. Better to round down to 27.8 feet and move in closer to avoid blown pixels.

EDIT: Oops, forgot to add "Bazinga!" :D

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Aug 1, 2013 11:20:49   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
CaptainC wrote:
I have been shooting since the early 60's (on and off) and I have NO idea what the question is, let alone how to answer. Robert-Photo has probably the best answer: Look through the viewfinder and compose it properly. If you have had cropping issues, shoot a little loser.

Either that or the answer is 27.89 feet.


Captain, do you suppose that he's trying to say that if he's looking through the view finder and taking his shot but since the most DSLR's are a 2x3 format that when he tries to crop for a different sized picture frame of something like 4x5 (8x10) that he isn't composing the shot with this in mind? and wants to know how much to back off so that he can crop to most any standard picture matte.

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Aug 1, 2013 11:53:59   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Captain, do you suppose that he's trying to say that if he's looking through the view finder and taking his shot but since the most DSLR's are a 2x3 format that when he tries to crop for a different sized picture frame of something like 4x5 (8x10) that he isn't composing the shot with this in mind? and wants to know how much to back off so that he can crop to most any standard picture matte.


Well yeah - after he FINALLY tells us the subject. His original post was meant for mind readers.

"What is a good or proper shooting distance from camera to subject so I do not wind up in a cropping pickle again?"

As written, one cannot answer the question. Like you say, you have to "suppose" what he means. I stand by my 27.89 feet.

It is so unfortunate that photography requires us to think things through.

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Aug 1, 2013 11:59:31   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
SqBear wrote:
Brings up another question. What is a good or proper shooting distance from camera to subject so I do not wind up in a cropping pickle again?
I had the previous question on how to reduce the size of a photo so I could crop it to a specific size.
Thanks again and I am positive you can teach this old dog some new tricks!!

That is a question, that can not be answered in general, maybe if you state a certain situation and what you want accomplish. Every photo is going to need a different distance (proper=custom). In macro, a lot of times, your equipment is the limiting factor. In landscape, you choose ( by what you want to tell with the picture), Indoors, Portraits, all need a different approach and a custom shooting distance, to be proper.

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Aug 1, 2013 12:53:38   #
Dbez1 Loc: Ford City, PA
 
Some of the sarcasm I have read here makes me sick! Are you trying to drive him away from photography? Yes, additional information was needed but can't you just ask for it in a congenial way? On the other hand, some have tried to give some basic help to an obvious newcomer into photography. Well done! If the shoe fits...

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Aug 1, 2013 13:07:46   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Dbez1 wrote:
Some of the sarcasm I have read here makes me sick! Being somewhat new to the forum (but not new to photography) a couple of you have just elevated yourself into my "jerk" column. In the end, "people" matter, not your high and mighty know-it-all attitude. Are you trying to drive him away from photography? Yes, additional information was needed but can't you just ask for it in a congenial way? On the other hand, some have tried to give some basic help to an obvious newcomer into photography. Well done! If the shoe fits...
Some of the sarcasm I have read here makes me sick... (show quote)


Fits fine. The problem is you cannot see the smiles. Deal with it.

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Aug 1, 2013 13:07:53   #
SqBear Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
 
ole sarg, yep, always use the view finder, matter of fact I do not have a live view on the D60 only the view after the photo is taken.
Obviously I have asked the question with the knowledge in my mind but not sharing with y'all.
However, with all the helpful tips eventho the question was not posed correctly, I have been given great information and I was out-and-about this am and took advantage of some of that knowledge. I'll see when I have them processed.

Thanks to all for the information and tips!

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Aug 1, 2013 16:35:18   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
We try to help everyone here but it works better if we are given detailed questions; otherwise, we don't know what the user is really asking.

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Aug 1, 2013 17:12:56   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
ROFL! 27.86! everybody knows that.

Is someone taking us for a ride again?

If it is indeed a 8 x 10 conundrum, there are other standard formats, 8 x 12 for instance ( 4 x 6 Ratio). Or you take her at a 45° angle to use up the space better. 8 x 10 is sort of square IMHO. Or you "float" the subject in an awkward composition in 8 x 10!

You have a frame you need to fit, or something else outside of the actual shot?

Finally, either upload the ORIGINAL image, so we can see the information of the file... AND we can help! See attached for information which is saved with every image you take.

Or...well, it wouldn't be the first time someone was playing with us just to see how high they could make us jump, while we knock ourselves out to figure out how to help... that is where any sarcasm comes from...




CaptainC wrote:
I have been shooting since the early 60's (on and off) and I have NO idea what the question is, let alone how to answer. Robert-Photo has probably the best answer: Look through the viewfinder and compose it properly. If you have had cropping issues, shoot a little loser.

Either that or the answer is 27.89 feet.



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Aug 1, 2013 22:26:53   #
Beeblebrox Loc: Cape-Town, South-Africa
 
Exellent!

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Aug 1, 2013 22:31:21   #
Beeblebrox Loc: Cape-Town, South-Africa
 
Sorry, the excellent remark was to Robert-photos and Captain C!!

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Aug 1, 2013 23:11:46   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
The answer to this question is different with every photo and the answer is subject to the lens you are using and your positioning.

The thing I use on every photo i take is "Border Patrol"

First determining that every thing I want in the image IS in the viewfinder and i want in my image -

The second this is to determine if the IS ANYTHING inside the viewfinder I don't want in my image

The third and final thing I do is adjust my lens or move my position to get the image as I want it.

If all these cannot capture the image the way i want it- then it is Digital Editing aka PP time.

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Aug 2, 2013 10:32:20   #
Mercer Loc: Houston, TX, USA
 
I don't mean to sound critical, but could your problem be based in composition? If the photo is properly composed, the distance will take care of itself, and cropping will be eliminated or drastically reduced.

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Aug 2, 2013 10:38:19   #
Beeblebrox Loc: Cape-Town, South-Africa
 
Isn't focal distance and hyperfocal, dof, etc a major part of composition?!

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