Croce Loc: Earth

You are so far off the mark with your thinking that it is beyond reason. You are talking about a reference to god being legal. Yes it is legal. I am talking about the wisdom of stuffing god or religion down the throats of potential voters. You seem to think that forcing belief on people is a good idea. I think you are nuts.

Yooper 2 Loc: Ironwood, MI

It's freedom OF religion. It means that everyone has the right to practice their religion of choice. The Constitution plainly states that the Government cannot establish a State Religion.
Why should God bless a nation with a government that doesn't honor Him? I use 'Him' in the biblical terminology.
I don't believe in a 'puppetmaster' god. I believe in the 'eye for an eye' principal. We get what we earn. This country isn't earning much right now.
Don't bother accusing me of being a religious zealot. I don't practice any organized religion.

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

All I can say is keep that lunacy out of my government. Holy crap Batman!

Croce Loc: Earth

I agree, I mean practice witchcraft if you please but lets not have a political partys campaign platform having a plank supporting it.

jcjr8

OK so let me get this straight, you're saying it's Constitutionally legal for the government to recognize God but that those who are hoping to run the government have no right to do so?!?!? The Republican or any other party is unwise to stand for what our government can legally stand for? The Constitution simply denies the government the authority to mandate religious practices and if you understand the history of Europe, specifically England, at that time you would understand perfectly what the founders intended. In no word or intent does the Constitution forbid the government from recognizing God. Also, nowhere in anything I said did I indicate I believed in forcing any belief on anyone was OK. Do not put words in my mouth to deflect the attention from the fact you have no legitimate rebuttal.

Yooper 2 Loc: Ironwood, MI

Where is the Republican Party campaigning on a religious platform?? I can't find any Republican candidate that is pushing a national religion.
The idea that the Republicans want a national religion, don't want women to have control of their bodies, to kill old people is pure nonsense.
Republicans are not all Christians. Republican women have abortions. there are gay Republicans. There are old Republicans that want to live. Such nonsense!

jcjr8

By the way, calling me "nuts" does not make you right, just small.

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

Rick Perry's idea for fixing the economy was prayer, you can count the number of gay Republicans and a woman who wants an abortion is ostracized by todays GOP. Where have you been? You are describing the GOP Pre TEA PARTY!!!

KW Conch Loc: USA

I applaud you for refusing to send money to the RNC. And, I agree that religious zealots have taken over the Republican party. However, I believe that the Declaration of Independence and Constitution were based on Judeo-Christian values.

http://www.philipvickersfithian.com/2009/12/god-and-declaration-of-independence.html

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

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magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

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Croce Loc: Earth

You people can not seem to differentiate between allowing and advocating. We are talking here about a party platform. The platform describes what the party stands for. It should appeal to as broad a base as possible by offending as few as possible because we have whites, blacks, holymen, atheists, straights, gays, lesbians, etc, etc, etc who are all members of the democrat party. You can't win an election by singing only to your own damned choir! You must recruit from the other party and independents in order to win. The planks are the selling points in the platform. I think it is stupid to try to push religion or god or birth control or denial of it or acceptance of gay marriage or denial of it via a platform. The government does not belong in our bedrooms, nor in our churches, or otherwise in our private lives unless we are engaging in behavior dangerous to the general public. We as Republicans do not need because we can not benefit from, the religious preachings of Rick Santorum, Michelle Bachman, Mike Huckabee, etc etc etc. We need people who will protect our individual rights to do as we damned well please as long as we are not encroaching on the rights of others. We need candidates who can manage our economy, not our bedrooms. We need candidates who can manage our foreign policy, not our religious choices or rejections, We need candidates who can manage our military complex, we need candidates who can manage our fiscal and monetary policies, not our individual morals. We someone to run a government of the people, for the people and by the people. But before we can hope to find such people we must appeal to them. My party, the Republican party today looks like an American style taliban overrun by christian ayatolla's. The other party looks like it is being run by a Karl Marx wannabe. We are in trouble and we need to get out of it and god will not get us out of it. Are you too dense to realize that?

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Croce....I take offense at having Christian theology referred to as witchcraft.

KW Conch Loc: USA

"My party, the Republican party today looks like an American style taliban overrun by christian ayatolla's."

That's my major gripe with the GOP too. And, I'm a Christian.

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

Strange, it is widely known that Al Einstein was an agnostic. I'm afraid you can't listen to Einstein's thoughts. I have a news flash. He DIED IN 1955.
Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said an "attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."

Pantheism is the belief that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent God, or that the universe (or nature) is identical with divinity. Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal or anthropomorphic god.


Since you made reference to intelligent people and their beliefs here's another one. Stephen Hawking has concluded "Modern physics leaves no place for God in the creation of the Universe".

Just as Darwinism removed the need for a creator in the sphere of biology, Britain's most eminent scientist argues that a new series of theories have rendered redundant the role of a creator for the Universe.

In his book, Professor Hawking sets out to answer the question: "Did the Universe need a creator?" The answer he gives is a resounding "no".

Far from being a once-in-a-million event that could only be accounted for by extraordinary serendipity or a divine hand, the Big Bang was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, Hawking says.