Getting a new computer
Jul 21, 2013 11:49:22 #
tc71 wrote:
I am going to get a new PC soon. I will use it for mainly editing pictures and video. I would greatly appreciate any input from anyone as to what some good editing programs are and what operating system would work better, (AMD vs Intel) or anything else I should look for when buying my PC. I am hoping to spend less than $800. Thank You
I don't do lots of photo editing other than slight corrections. But I do shoot and edit lots of video.
I shoot with a Canon dslr and work on my W7 Gateway running at 3.3 with 8gb of RAM and it's very smooth with HD video.
I use two editors. Video Pad by NCH is one of them. The only problem with VP is it doesn't do very well with Rolling Shutter cameras - all CMOS dslr cameras use Rolling Shutter and it can cause gitters, slight pauses in your video. Normally not at the raw play level but when edited.
I discovered another editor called TrakAxPC, it's from Scotland, and does a wonderful job at final edit, mp4, of smoothing out any rolling shutter problems.
The difficulty with TrakAx is at $40 for full download, it's not available on disc and it's not a burning program. So, if you burn to DVD as I do, you'll have to find another program to convert and brun mp4 files. They recommended one and it works very well called DVD Styler. So I edit with TrakAx and then burn that mp4 to DVD with the Styler. The Styler burns a disc of exactly the quality of the editor and they work well together. If I remember correctly the Styler is a free download.
Good Luck
Jul 21, 2013 12:36:17 #
Well, yep IR Jim I read thru the reference you gave and then did some google reading. True motherboard integrated video does consume some resources, whereas a graphics card has it own -- since the resources consumed by an onboard is not great an onboard may well suffice also the mobo may feed/read integrated more rapidly. Generally the consistence, right or wrong is that a separate board is best... could be an urbane myth.
The pro separate card arguments usually discuss use of resources and also you can upgrade as new systems come out. Lots of debate... if you google "motherboard integrated graphics limitations" there is a lot of reading and little in the way of scientific data. Arguments are of the type... "more I think" therefore "because I think it is true" that is circular logic and is religated to political discussion and Fax News channel.
Keep in mind, separate graphics cards are not that expensive if you buy last years good card. Be sure to read the reviews and the "top" articles.
The pro separate card arguments usually discuss use of resources and also you can upgrade as new systems come out. Lots of debate... if you google "motherboard integrated graphics limitations" there is a lot of reading and little in the way of scientific data. Arguments are of the type... "more I think" therefore "because I think it is true" that is circular logic and is religated to political discussion and Fax News channel.
Keep in mind, separate graphics cards are not that expensive if you buy last years good card. Be sure to read the reviews and the "top" articles.
Jul 21, 2013 13:45:05 #
I purchased a HP AMD computer a few months back. (Feb.). It's has all the bell's and whistles. Now, I am not a whiz on the computer but I'm also not computer illiterate. I bought this for doing my PP. The first thing I would caution you about is the Operating system. Mine is Windows 8. As is just about every new pc. It us designed for a touch screen. You don't have to have one. I do not. Personally, I despise Windows 8! I loved XP & I got along pretty well with Windows 7. If you are not familure with 8, I suggest check it out very closely before you buy. Also make sure any older PP soft ware that you have and want to keep is compatible with 8. By the way, I got the AMD because I was told it was designed for graphics. I really have not been impressed.
Jul 21, 2013 13:54:24 #
Jul 21, 2013 14:14:33 #
WELL DEMARLOW: agreed,,, I bought a pre issue W8 my mid grandson said "why did you do that,,, 8 is for pads"
My experience with xp and 7 same as yours... and going with 7 caused me problems with some software although I have some W-98 that works on virtual xp in w-7.
Regarding AMD: "http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-1445-2.html" consider you bought a package and if you had spent the same money for an intel HP, you would probably been less impressed. I is not the AMD, rather the whole package. You were told AMD was better for graphics, but not the case, rather it was lower cost to build and so easer to sell at a lower price or higher profit or both....
I purchased a mid range HP 4 years ago, saying to my self that the era of DIY home build was over,, DIY was more expensive than the package.... well I returned it after one weekend,,, there were restrictions on what I,,, the owner,,, was allowed to do or mod in the firmware/BIOS Hay, mine HP,, I bought it...don't restrict me. My DIY unit is an AMD with 8 gig RAM and on my second graphics board,,, this one is a 1 gig RAM... although it is DDR3, but that is not as good as a 500 meg of DDR5 which is designed for graphics... DIY allows evolution....
So I took the HP back for having just what was needed for running and not a drop more.... when building a DIY, I tend to overkill ,,, max RAM, multi HD, Hi Watt power supply and good graphics board ... lots of fans and porch screen to filter out dust from CPU. . Took my sound board out and love the on-board sound.. fine... I own it I mod it... same goes with my cameras.
My experience with xp and 7 same as yours... and going with 7 caused me problems with some software although I have some W-98 that works on virtual xp in w-7.
Regarding AMD: "http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-1445-2.html" consider you bought a package and if you had spent the same money for an intel HP, you would probably been less impressed. I is not the AMD, rather the whole package. You were told AMD was better for graphics, but not the case, rather it was lower cost to build and so easer to sell at a lower price or higher profit or both....
I purchased a mid range HP 4 years ago, saying to my self that the era of DIY home build was over,, DIY was more expensive than the package.... well I returned it after one weekend,,, there were restrictions on what I,,, the owner,,, was allowed to do or mod in the firmware/BIOS Hay, mine HP,, I bought it...don't restrict me. My DIY unit is an AMD with 8 gig RAM and on my second graphics board,,, this one is a 1 gig RAM... although it is DDR3, but that is not as good as a 500 meg of DDR5 which is designed for graphics... DIY allows evolution....
So I took the HP back for having just what was needed for running and not a drop more.... when building a DIY, I tend to overkill ,,, max RAM, multi HD, Hi Watt power supply and good graphics board ... lots of fans and porch screen to filter out dust from CPU. . Took my sound board out and love the on-board sound.. fine... I own it I mod it... same goes with my cameras.
Jul 21, 2013 17:45:29 #
[quote=bobmcculloch]
I remember Ford as Found On Road Dead!
dpullum wrote:
Bob, "Absent Minded Dummy" is what AMD r... (show quote)
I remember Ford as Found On Road Dead!
Jul 21, 2013 20:02:56 #
A .50 cal rifle is "better" than a .22 but you wouldn't go squirrel hunting with it. Actually that is up for debate :lol:
tc71, I would suggest doing your own research. If you want scientific data check out a few PC magazines. Maximum PC is a great one, so is PC Magazine. They have been around for 20 years and they perform tests in their lab and publish the benchmarks. You will find a good article in the August 2013 of Maximum PC. They explain, in English, all the components of you PC and what they do. I think this will help when you decide what kind of PC to buy.
tc71, I would suggest doing your own research. If you want scientific data check out a few PC magazines. Maximum PC is a great one, so is PC Magazine. They have been around for 20 years and they perform tests in their lab and publish the benchmarks. You will find a good article in the August 2013 of Maximum PC. They explain, in English, all the components of you PC and what they do. I think this will help when you decide what kind of PC to buy.
Jul 21, 2013 20:07:46 #
Seriously. Why not consider a MAC? Unbeatable for graphics and photography with processing speed and ease of use. You would not be disappointed, except for the few more bucks out of your pocket.
Jul 21, 2013 20:28:35 #
tc71 wrote:
I am going to get a new PC soon. I will use it for mainly editing pictures and video. I would greatly appreciate any input from anyone as to what some good editing programs are and what operating system would work better, (AMD vs Intel) or anything else I should look for when buying my PC. I am hoping to spend less than $800. Thank You
Intel for sure! :-)
Jul 21, 2013 20:32:08 #
dpullum wrote:
WELL DEMARLOW: agreed,,, I bought a pre issue W8 m... (show quote)
Mine came in at over $800 and that was without a monitor. I kept it thinking I would get the hang of it. Well, my wife kind of likes it because it is a desk top and we have a large screen for it. Easier to see. I kept our lap top w/windows 7 for my use. Windows 8 will be releasing 8.1 later this year. It is supposed to fix some of the complaints of the original w8. I did some research but not enough and I wasn't a Hog then! Live and learn!
Jul 23, 2013 13:36:32 #
Note that when ordering more than 4 GB of RAM you must have a 64 bit OS. Most new computers do this but you should make sure. The other option is a 32 bit OS which can only access just under 4 GB regardless of how much you install. :cry:
[quote=IR Jim]
RAM - LOTS! I would not settle for less than 8GB of RAM. The more ram you have the more pics and larger files you can have open at once. 12GB is a good amount to shoot for.
Spend the money you save here by getting more ram or better CPU.
[quote=IR Jim]
RAM - LOTS! I would not settle for less than 8GB of RAM. The more ram you have the more pics and larger files you can have open at once. 12GB is a good amount to shoot for.
Spend the money you save here by getting more ram or better CPU.
Jul 23, 2013 14:01:04 #
The only places you'll find 32 bit systems are refurbished items and bargain bins. Even the cheapest PC new on microcenter is 64 bit.
Jul 23, 2013 14:30:56 #
So you're suggesting my comment to "make sure" should be ignored right? :)
IR Jim wrote:
The only places you'll find 32 bit systems are refurbished items and bargain bins. Even the cheapest PC new on microcenter is 64 bit.
Jul 23, 2013 15:16:23 #
Since they don't produce 32 bit processors anymore, except a handful for netbooks and some laptops, I would say that is a pretty safe bet. :-P
big-guy wrote:
So you're suggesting my comment to "make sure" should be ignored right? :)
Jul 23, 2013 15:47:16 #
Okee Dokee UHH'ers, you know who to talk to SHOULD things go horribly wrong. :-D
IR Jim wrote:
Since they don't produce 32 bit processors anymore, except a handful for netbooks and some laptops, I would say that is a pretty safe bet. :-P
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