Nate
Loc: Ann Arbor, Mi.
PS6 1200.00.......are you serious?
Nate wrote:
PS6 1200.00.......are you serious?
CS6 is $50 a month (if you were not lucky enough to have CS5 or 6 before it moved to the cloud). I think the 1,200 package included not only CS6 but Illustrator and a few other products that I didn't require so I never looked into. I do have CS6 which was over $700 with taxes.
Annie_Girl wrote:
This is how I worked out my pricing.s.
It looks like you planned for success :thumbup:
Not that I have any intention of going professional in the commercial sense, purely in the photographic sense, but I find this very interesting. I have done a few "commercial" weddings and never known how to fix a price before.
Thank you, this is most informative.
BHC
Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
Wall-E wrote:
Could you finish the calculations, please?
You've mixed consumables with capital items and overhead.
Agreed. What factors are you using for amortization of major items like camera, lenses, flashes, etc. anything with an anticipated life of three years or more should be a capital item and be amortized.
Good post, I have been in business (not photo) since 1990. People just don't think about all the cost involved. Tried helping someone yesterday with real estate, taking photos of million dollar plus homes. They want to give him $100.00 out of the thousands they are getting on the house sale, he had no insurance so if he knocked over a 5000.00 vase moving his tripod well now he is out $4900.00
If you are going to go into business learn some basics and do it right
Nate wrote:
PS6 1200.00.......are you serious?
Yes, I'm serious. PS6 alone was $700 I think, but all my calcs are based on life expectancy, or shutter clicks. Over the life of the camera, I will purchase PS two to three times, or once and one/two version upgrades. However now that they move the subscription to the cloud, this calculation is much easier, i simply can change this to the monthly subscription cost.
jerryc41 wrote:
Remember the "subtrahend" and the "minuend"? The best part of math class was when it ended. :D
Some consider division more fun !!!!
Radioman wrote:
Some consider division more fun !!!!
As far as "fun" is concerned, they are in the same category - a necessary evil.
JCam
Loc: MD Eastern Shore
The BIG expense that I haven't seen mentioned is or will be Health Insurance. If photography is the main source of income, it certainly has to be included, but if some other "day job" is paying that cost, then it can be excluded, but, health, even with insurance, has a cost.
cindij
Loc: New Lowell, Ontario, Canada
Annie_Girl wrote:
This is how I worked out my pricing.
Monthly Business Cost List:
 Cell Phone: $59.00
 Equipment purchases: $500
 Photo gallery: $15
 Hosting: $6.99
 Marketing: $100
 Business cards: $10
Total: $693
I used one session per week as my goal because I want to be profitable but I don't want to be unrealisic and set my booking goal to high.
$693 and divide that into 4 (total sessions per month) = $173 for each session.
Time Spent List:
 30 minutes for consult and email reminders
 30 for location scouting
 1 hour for shooting
 3 hours for editing
 1 hour for gallery preview with client and ordering
Total: 6 hours per client
I charge $30 per hour.
My formula:
Time x your hourly cost = total personal pay + Business cost per month / amount of monthly sessions = total business cost per session = Total Session Price (not including prints)
6 hrs x $30.00 = $180
$693 business cost / 4 session minimum = $173
Total = $353 per session
I charge $350 for a session fee with a $700 print order minimum ($150 of the session fee is credited back to my client to be used toward their prints costs).
I now have studio rent and all the utilities and expenses that go along with, but I have been booking more than 1 session a week so I have not had the need to revamp my prices.
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I have read a lot about this on the forum and yours is the most comprehensible answer so far. It's a keeper. Thank you!
I don't envy up-and-coming photographers wanting to make a living doing it. From what I hear, it's a tough business to break into, and the current state of the economy combined with the proliferation of digital makes it even harder.
When I was growing up, I once wanted to become a professional soccer player. Unfortunately, my dreams were shattered when I actually realized that I could not live on this income (not everyone has the star quality that David Beckham has). Almost every pro I met had a second job, or was married to a spouse that worked.
I think the few (and I mean few) good photographers will do just fine, but the vast majority of them will struggle financially regardless what they charge. No formula will help them put food on the table.
mdorn wrote:
I don't envy up-and-coming photographers wanting to make a living doing it. From what I hear, it's a tough business to break into, and the current state of the economy combined with the proliferation of digital makes it even harder.
When I was growing up, I once wanted to become a professional soccer player. Unfortunately, my dreams were shattered when I actually realized that I could not live on this income (not everyone has the star quality that David Beckham has). Almost every pro I met had a second job, or was married to a spouse that worked.
I think the few (and I mean few) good photographers will do just fine, but the vast majority of them will struggle financially regardless what they charge. No formula will help them put food on the table.
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Which calls to mind the question "what's the difference between a professional photographer and a large pizza?
The answer is that the pizza can feed a family of four.
mdorn wrote:
I don't envy up-and-coming photographers wanting to make a living doing it. From what I hear, it's a tough business to break into, and the current state of the economy combined with the proliferation of digital makes it even harder.
When I was growing up, I once wanted to become a professional soccer player. Unfortunately, my dreams were shattered when I actually realized that I could not live on this income (not everyone has the star quality that David Beckham has). Almost every pro I met had a second job, or was married to a spouse that worked.
I think the few (and I mean few) good photographers will do just fine, but the vast majority of them will struggle financially regardless what they charge. No formula will help them put food on the table.
I don't envy up-and-coming photographers wanting t... (
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My advice: photograph the rich.
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