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Jul 21, 2013 16:04:04   #
KIDNOMO Loc: Lynchburg, VA
 
gmcase wrote:
I think the gatherers of soon to be slaves in Africa were the same race as those gathered. That doesn't excuse those who transported and used them as slaves but the white man did not go chasing natives, their own brothers or cousins did that.


Divide and conquer...

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Jul 21, 2013 16:08:14   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
KIDNOMO wrote:
I agree. It should never be said. The proper ethnic name is Negro but Southern speaking whites corrupted the identification with "Nigra" to the present N word that became totally derogatory to black people. I think the use of the N word had become so negative that what was a lemon to some was made into lemonade. It is now an intimate term between blacks that excludes anyone else from using it. Words have a way of evolving and devolving. Praying that the N-word dies for lack of use.


I am trying to think of a "intimate term between" whites "that excludes everyone else from using it". Striking out. Now I am adding Orientals, Hispanics, Indians (west and east), etc. still shrinking out. I guess nobody else has been mistreated enough to get a special word. Yeah right.

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Jul 21, 2013 16:08:54   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
[quote=KIDNOMO]I agree. It should never be said. The proper ethnic name is Negro but Southern speaking whites corrupted the identification with "Nigra" to the present N word that became totally derogatory to black people. I think the use of the N word had become so negative that what was a lemon to some was made into lemonade. It is now an intimate term between blacks that excludes anyone else from using it. Words have a way of evolving and devolving. Praying that the N-word dies for lack of use.[/quote


Yes, yes...yes

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Jul 21, 2013 16:11:34   #
KIDNOMO Loc: Lynchburg, VA
 
gmcase wrote:
I am trying to think of a "intimate term between" whites "that excludes everyone else from using it". Striking out. Now I am adding Orientals, Hispanics, Indians (west and east), etc. still shrinking out. I guess nobody else has been mistreated enough to get a special word. Yeah right.


you are close to the truth but you are afraid of it.

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Jul 21, 2013 16:18:42   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
KIDNOMO wrote:
you are close to the truth but you are afraid of it.


Hardly. I see it for what is.

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Jul 21, 2013 16:37:19   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
tlbuljac wrote:
You have an answer for everything don't you
Yes, tlbuljac, Retired Moose Psychologist, or as you put it, Psycologist. (beware of any doctor that spells it docter).
I was always a smart ass.

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Jul 21, 2013 16:44:29   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Wabbit wrote:
Shush ..... not too loud Doc ..... the answer man is actually a wittle puppy dog trying to paper train .....
Any questions? I've got all the answers. Wabbit never tells a lie.

Compliments of that Great American....R. Crumb
Compliments of that Great American....R. Crumb...

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Jul 21, 2013 16:56:50   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Twardlow wrote:
Hope you don't mind my butting in.

The concept 'one drop of black blood makes you black' is a white concept written into law in the south 150 or more years ago.

It still stands in the popular mind, thought it seems to be weakening with the newer generation.

(Republicans are trying to bring it back with their latest photo ID laws.)

Obama is black by this standard, but more accurately, of mixed race.

Point 2 is a little unclear to me--guess I'm just dim.

"As far as racism is concerned, a black person is safer walking in a white neighborhood than a white person is walking in a black neighborhood."

You might explain that to Trayvon Martin.

He might be soothed that he was just a spastically anomaly.

Sorry for butting in. Just trying to keep good discussion going.

Cheers, tom

BTW, Simpson was guilty in my mind (for what it's worth).
Hope you don't mind my butting in. br br The conc... (show quote)

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Jul 21, 2013 17:18:06   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
gmcase wrote:
I am trying to think of a "intimate term between" whites "that excludes everyone else from using it". Striking out. Now I am adding Orientals, Hispanics, Indians (west and east), etc. still shrinking out. I guess nobody else has been mistreated enough to get a special word. Yeah right.



The reason you are striking out is because these "terms of endearment" were given to each group or nationality by preceding groups or nationality. Or possibly have a very old world significance. The Italians have their own terms the Irish have their own terms Puerto Ricans have their own terms, Polish,Czech, Russian,Chinese,Korean etc. However these "terms" are exclusive to each group. So it would be inappropriate for say an Irishman using one of the "reserved" words when addressing an Italian. maybe watching the movie Gangs of New York may help you with this concept.

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Jul 21, 2013 17:29:46   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
gmcase wrote:
I am trying to think of a "intimate term between" whites "that excludes everyone else from using it". Striking out. Now I am adding Orientals, Hispanics, Indians (west and east), etc. still shrinking out. I guess nobody else has been mistreated enough to get a special word. Yeah right.
I always call my white friends when we are chillin' and jivin' White Cracker A_ _holes. It's a term of endearment that only we can understand and use.

:roll: :-P :-P :-P :-P

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Jul 21, 2013 17:36:53   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
magicray wrote:
"Post Ignored Due To Source"



Now, this is not ignoring me, like you promised.

Let's keep our deal.

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Jul 21, 2013 18:07:25   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
I found the Florida Cracker!



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Jul 21, 2013 18:23:46   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Popeye wrote:
It couldn't have been him 35 years ago. He didn't have two black parents.
Parents? He was under the supervision of his father after being suspended from school for criminal activities, but his parents didn't find out about his death until two days afterward. Now they are on TV crying their eyes out and blaming that white man who isn't white. What BS.

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Jul 21, 2013 19:36:35   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
KIDNOMO wrote:
Throw a little dark skin in that pot and tell me how American you feel.
Kid, your paranoia is showing. I was just referring to my own ethnicity as an example. Am I aware that Negroes are a minority? I was born at night, but not last night. I am quite aware of it. I was attending a high school that was 40% black before you were even a twinkle in your father's eye. I don't need a lecture on the plight of the black male in American society. How about black women? They have to contend with anti-black racism AND abuse from angry black males. Trying to raise children in an environment of drugs and gang warfare.
I marched in numerous civil rights protests and also served eight years in the US Army from 1963 to 1969. I remember separate water fountains for white and 'colored'. I remember growing up poor. Our street was paved and had sewers but a block away the streets where the blacks lived were nothing but dusty roads without 'waste management'.
I can see the progress made in race relations since the Selma marches and the civil rights movement. I am optimistic because I believe humans to be intrinsically good.
How can conditions improve for ALL Americans? Education. Education. Education. Jobs, Jobs. Jobs. Hopefully time will heal all wounds and future generations will be more color blind and there will be more opportunities for all. Lot's of hard work ahead for EVERY American.
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Jul 21, 2013 19:52:35   #
KIDNOMO Loc: Lynchburg, VA
 
magicray wrote:
Kid, your paranoia is showing. I was just referring to my own ethnicity as an example. Am I aware that Negroes are a minority? I was born at night, but not last night. I am quite aware of it. I was attending a high school that was 40% black before you were even a twinkle in your father's eye. I don't need a lecture on the plight of the black male in American society. How about black women? They have to contend with anti-black racism AND abuse from angry black males. Trying to raise children in an environment of drugs and gang warfare.
I marched in numerous civil rights protests and also served eight years in the US Army from 1963 to 1969. I remember separate water fountains for white and 'colored'. I remember growing up poor. Our street was paved and had sewers but a block away the streets where the blacks lived were nothing but dusty roads without 'waste management'.
I can see the progress made in race relations since the Selma marches and the civil rights movement. I am optimistic because I believe humans to be intrinsically good.
How can conditions improve for ALL Americans? Education. Education. Education. Jobs, Jobs. Jobs. Hopefully time will heal all wounds and future generations will be more color blind and there will be more opportunities for all. Lot's of hard work ahead for EVERY American.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Kid, your paranoia is showing. I was just referrin... (show quote)


That only proves the we are more alike than different. Yet, it's those differences that makes the work urgent. I assure you, I have no paranoia. I am however, aware of the reality of the Black experience. It is unfortunate that Black men still harbor the "breeder" mentality that creates so many fatherless children. Happily there are still strong Black men who stay in the home and raise their kids. Education is, I agree, a social imperative. Once we become more focused as job creators rather than job seekers we will become the change we dream of.



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