English...as it isn't spoken (Page 3): I am not sure what you mean by "proper English"? If you refer to "Oxford English", I think it the requirement for both published and broadcast...

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

alf85 wrote:

Hi, none of us speak proper English, we all speak in dialect's, i live in the UK, in Northumberland, and if i was to talk too you in Nothumbrian you would not understand one word i said.
The point i would like to make is (live and let live).

I am not sure what you mean by "proper English"? If you refer to "Oxford English", I think it the requirement for both published and broadcast news reporting to use "correct english" grammar Those that are interviewed may use colloquial grammar and word usage, but editorial comment should be restricted to proper and correct grammar, or the possibility of misinformation or misconstruing what is reported can occur. "Dialect" has nothing to do with proper word use or sentence structure. It is the colloquial pronunciation of words.

filerunner Loc: Michigan

magicray wrote:

Also when folks use that hand signal when referring to the phone. Drives me nuts! I'd like to take that faux phone and shove it up their (_O_).

:XD:

Also, when people hold up their fingers and wiggle them for quotation, they look so stupid.

After Oprah, when people say a word that begins with an "s" they automatically add an "h" after the "s". That shounds shtupid.

Imagigraphic Loc: Englewood, FL

"I" is a subject. "Me" is an object. A guest speaker might begin: "Let me first thank the committee for inviting my wife and I." He is convinced that this is correct English, but what if the wife were not also in attendance? "Let me first thank the committee for inviting I." See the correct usage of these pronouns now?

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

Imagigraphic wrote:

"I" is a subject. "Me" is an object. A guest speaker might begin: "Let me first thank the committee for inviting my wife and I." He is convinced that this is correct English, but what if the wife were not also in attendance? "Let me first thank the committee for inviting I." See the correct usage of these pronouns now?

In your example, if the 2 "objects" are reversed, you clearly see the error of usage in the sentence, "Let me thank the committee for inviting I and my wife." As multiple "objects" in a prepositional phrase, they can be easily and correctly reversed other than for the courtesy of mentioning your wife first as a matter of protocal.

HOHIMER

alf85 wrote:

Hi, none of us speak proper English, we all speak in dialect's, i live in the UK, in Northumberland, and if i was to talk too you in Nothumbrian you would not understand one word i said.
The point i would like to make is (live and let live).

Give us an example of Nothumbrian please.

MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand

Wellhiem wrote:

As a general rule. And remember language isn't the... (show quote)

That's ok IF you can be understood but there are many times when the wrong use of the language makes things ambiguous and impossible to decide on what is meant.
Mike

crissx09 Loc: FL-USA

What I have noticed in the forum is a lot of people that resent to be corrected. I couldn't feel offended if some one correct me in the proper, positive way. From there to accept that is correct to be wrong... If no body correct you, how are you going to learn!!!!!

George Kravis

The distinction is simple; going back to basic grammar. "I" is used in the nominative case when it is the subject of a sentence - I went to the store or you and I are going to the store. "Me" is used in the objective case when it is the object of a preposition - he talked to you and me or they shouted at you and me.

amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN

'me/I', 'further/farther', 'their, they're,there', 'fun, funner, funnest',and on and on. The language is changing and as I have said before, we can't read Medieval English and in another thousand years, the people won't be able to read our English. It's called inevitable change. Get on board or be left behind. And it may be that people are lazy and simply don't want to stop and think of which form is the correct one. It is what it is.

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

amyinsparta wrote:

'me/I', 'further/farther', 'their, they're,there', 'fun, funner, funnest',and on and on. The language is changing and as I have said before, we can't read Medieval English and in another thousand years, the people won't be able to read our English. It's called inevitable change. Get on board or be left behind. And it may be that people are lazy and simply don't want to stop and think of which form is the correct one. It is what it is.

Ah yes....The Dumbing Down of America, be that caused by degrading education, acceptance of stupidity, or simple laziness, the end result is the same...WE LOOK STUPID.

PhotoArtsLA Loc: Boynton Beach

I think everyone could benefit by picking up a copy of the Associate Press Stylebook, https://www.apstylebook.com/ should they want to get a hand on their language at least at the press level.

When you combine shorthand texting with de-education and dumbing down, the end of literature, and the higher level of thought required for it, is nigh. Eventually, all communication will be worldess sexting, pictures only, the population will quadruple, and The Great Starvation will solve the crisis.

As to changing the language to match popularized de-education and dumbing down... e.g. the verb "quote" is now also a noun, might as well throw out that useless noun "quotation," as in, "quote a quotation," or "I need a quotation on those parts" presently and watch Edgar Allen Poe rise as an invincible zombie to teach us all a lesson.

UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA

cavers wrote:

Just a quick question for any of you language expe... (show quote)

It's the terrible trio - me, myself & I

STVest Loc: LA - that's Lower Alabama

patcam wrote:

Never mind all this me and I business, when are you Americans going to pronounce the word WATER correctly, note it has a T in the spelling, I cringe when I hear you say WARDER !!!!!
just a thought, please stopping messing with my language,
and please don't be offended, this is very much " tongue in cheek"
Oh and I hate the word AWESOME, or as you say it ARRSOME

Please dont denigrate my fellow countrymen because of their regional accents. It is especially painful to me in light of the fact that I recently defended you for similar offenses. My son was questioning how the British dared to call their language English when they pronounced and spelled so many words wrong. I explained it to him (hes only in his fourth year of college). He still thinks you should change the name of the language you speak to British or something, as Americans speak English. How about it? Would yall go for that?

PhotoArtsLA Loc: Boynton Beach

Well, we could go for "American English" to separate our de-educated, dumbed down gibberish from the "Queen's English" and its thankfully proper defense of the language.

Were I a current generic American college student:

Lt's cll it "Merrycan Inglish" n prty ovr r viktory ovr lanqwich, as pose 2 tht "Queen's English" wch is smtng tht I dnt get n.e.wyz.

liebgard

magicray wrote:

What bugs me is when people talk in the first person. "Ray is going to post a message on the UHH now. Ray is going to the fridge for a cold one.

that's talking in the third person when they mean to talk in the first person. I am going to the store is first person. Ray is going to the store is third person.