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Dec 24, 2011 01:43:05   #
Marvin
 
Is is better to shoot in black and White or shoot in color and make the changes using your software in photo shop.

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Dec 24, 2011 07:28:54   #
tkhphotography Loc: Gresham, Or, not Seattle
 
Marvin wrote:
Is is better to shoot in black and White or shoot in color and make the changes using your software in photo shop.


If b&w is your real interest then you should shoot in color to the highest capture rate your camera will offer (raw) then convert with a good b&w conversion program.

If you let your camera do the conversion (as there isn't yet a real b&w digital camera out) it is taking whatever quality .jpeg setting you have told it and making the conversion - thus, throwing out pixels (data).

If your exposure with the .jpeg setting isn't smack dab on you are going to lose pixels (data) at the low, mid or high tone ends of your exposure and then expect the software to "fill" the gaps. And worse, if your exposure is bunched at either end, only a raw exposure can be adjusted to fill those gaps; a .jpeg capture has already lost that 'data' and any post processing is only going to attempt to spread out the pixels to cover the gaps.

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Dec 24, 2011 07:32:43   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
If B+W is your REAL interest, it's hard to beat film, but on the rare occasions I do conversions, I prefer to do them from Raw, which by definition means a colour capture.

In other words, for digital B+W, exactly the same advice as tkhphotography.

Cheers,

R.

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Dec 25, 2011 06:59:23   #
Cappy Loc: Wildwood, NJ
 
It's best to shoot in raw and covert. But then it comes to what are you going to do with the final result. If you are going to blow it up and frame it, definitely shoot raw.

Merry Christmas!!!

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Dec 25, 2011 10:37:54   #
Ljensen Loc: OKC
 
Marvin wrote:
Is is better to shoot in black and White or shoot in color and make the changes using your software in photo shop.


Personally I would (and do) shoot B/W film. I've compared my own photos shot B/W vs shot digital color and converted via PSE using Scott Kelby's technique. I much prefer the results from B/W film. The hard part is finding a lab to develop B/W film.

But that's just my opinion, try it for yourself. If you don't have a film camera, they're cheap to pick up on eBay. And if you're shooting Nikon, your lenses are probably interchangeable, though a DX lens used on a FX camera will result in a cropped photo. Good enough to run the comparison though.

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Dec 25, 2011 10:46:01   #
photosbyhenry Loc: Apple Valley MN
 
Ford or Chevy? Ginger or Ma Kettle? Depend on waht your personal preference is. I shoo ALL my b&w in the b&w mode on my digital and do not convert. Lots of arguements but that is what I prefer. Keep shooting, keep experimenting.

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Dec 25, 2011 10:59:48   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
I shot in RAW and then convert to B/W manually in PS, lots of dodging and burning to get a nice contrast.

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Dec 25, 2011 12:45:28   #
Kid Karats Loc: Wiscasset, Maine
 
I just started shooting B/W again. For processing I plan to use B&H professional mailers. I have 2 film cameras, a Nikon FM and a Pentax ME Super w/motor drive. Back in the day I shot only B/W and if I was confronted with an indoor and window problem (see above) I averaged my exposures, took several shots and usually got what I wanted.

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Dec 25, 2011 12:57:16   #
Rich Maher Loc: Sonoma County, CA
 
I use the darkroom.com. They develop B/W and color film. 120mm and 35mm.

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Dec 25, 2011 13:02:38   #
Kid Karats Loc: Wiscasset, Maine
 
Thanks for the tip. I will check that out.

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Dec 25, 2011 13:04:56   #
Rich Maher Loc: Sonoma County, CA
 
The correct address is thedarkroom.com

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Dec 25, 2011 13:05:38   #
tkhphotography Loc: Gresham, Or, not Seattle
 
Ljensen wrote:
Marvin wrote:
Is is better to shoot in black and White or shoot in color and make the changes using your software in photo shop.


Personally I would (and do) shoot B/W film. I've compared my own photos shot B/W vs shot digital color and converted via PSE using Scott Kelby's technique. I much prefer the results from B/W film. The hard part is finding a lab to develop B/W film.

But that's just my opinion, try it for yourself. If you don't have a film camera, they're cheap to pick up on eBay. And if you're shooting Nikon, your lenses are probably interchangeable, though a DX lens used on a FX camera will result in a cropped photo. Good enough to run the comparison though.
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That's not just a good opinion of yours about film vs digital conversion-- film has so much more latitude than a digital capture, that there isn't really a question of which is better.

I've over the years (having gone from my last b&w camera, Nikon F4) have tried many ways of conversions -- Nikon Capture, Elements conversion, in camera conversions and one from Richard Lynch that I got with his Hidden Power series that he sells as add-ons. His was the best so far, but I am going to try a download from Shutter Freaks. I think the best will always be one where you can make adjustments to the conversions.

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Dec 25, 2011 14:01:05   #
Kid Karats Loc: Wiscasset, Maine
 
This site looks promising, certainly a lot for the money when compared to the mailers I bought from B&H.

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Dec 25, 2011 14:40:57   #
Ljensen Loc: OKC
 
Rich Maher wrote:
I use the darkroom.com. They develop B/W and color film. 120mm and 35mm.


I also use TheDarkRoom.com. I think they do a good job and the service is good. They put the scans of the negatives on a website and also return the negatives and a CD to me. Only thing is the web site is kind of slow.

I like that they allow me to prepay on the web, print a voucher, and drop it in the envelope with the film. That way I don't have to write my credit card number on the order form and mail it with the film.

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Dec 25, 2011 15:14:34   #
Rich Maher Loc: Sonoma County, CA
 
It's also postage free.

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