Wall-E wrote:
The operative word here is 'paid'. The retoucher, painter, publisher/editor got something for their trouble/work. Neither the OP *NOR* the photographer got ANYTHING of value for their trouble/work.
Sorry, have to disagree.
The operative word is 'own'.
Nothing has happened to change to ownership of the original article.
Being asked to change or improve something, doesn't imply change of 'ownership'.
Or in the case of a painting or photograph, 'copywright'.
Simply being asked to do work on something, anything, doesnt imply that I am passing ownership
on to the person doing the work.
1Georgie wrote:
I was given a dozen photos to edit in any way I see fit. After completing the editing, who does the photos belong to? My question is, am I legally able to place my logo on those photos I edited, before returning the photos?
Your phrasing is self-contradictory. "Returning" them means that they never were *given* to you. You need express permission from the owner to put your logo on them.
The case brought up earlier on this thread (link below) is entirely different. Torkington, the "editor" of the original photo by Ruth Bernhard acknowledged its origin on his title : "Bernhard's Original". Bernhard is dead and her pictures sell for thousands of dollars. Torkington is pricing his edited prints at $125. Even if considered legal in this case, it sounds a little like parasitic behavior to me.
http://coronado.patch.com/groups/county-fair-fun/p/nude-photo-better-than-bernhards--fair-entrant-replicated-iconic-image?ncid=newsltuspatc00000001&evar4=picks-1-post
How in the world could you claim the photo?
I would ask for credit as a payment for my work.
[quote=Mogul]I have no idea, under the circumstances, what actions you might be legally entitled to take with those photographs. I have no idea how much you altered them or how closely they resemble the originals. I do have an opinion as to your moral obligation. I would not blame the photographer if he/she never gave you another photo to edit. Not having all the facts, I would, based on your post, believe that what you want to do is unethical, unprofessional, nefarious and unconscionable /quote]
Im starting off in photography.. This is the very first time I been given photos to edit. I just wanted to know even If I didnt take the photos if I had any legal rights to put my name on it..
Cheers mate and you are welcome.
(you certainly opened a can or worms and got some pretty interesting replies :) )
TonyP wrote:
Cheers mate and you are welcome.
(you certainly opened a can or worms and got some pretty interesting replies :) )
It looks like I did.. I was just asking a question that I didn't have an answer too.
BHC
Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
1Georgie wrote:
Im starting off in photography.. This is the very first time I been given photos to edit. I just wanted to know even If I didnt take the photos if I had any legal rights to put my name on it..
The fact that you are new to photography is a mitigating factor in regards to your question. Newcomers are, unfortunately, seldom schooled in the fine points of copyright protection. If you bought your gear at one of the local camera shops (I don't remember more than a couple in your town), they had no obligation to educate you, but it would have been nice if they had worked it into the conversation; one of the factors that has impressed me is how a couple of the sales representatives at my favorite local store try to explain some of the seldom discussed points regarding photography instead of just selling a camera and lens and then walking away. I'm sorry I came down so hard on you, but I thought the number of messages you had posted and the fact that you were editing for others tagged you as much more experienced. Do not feel badly about "opening a can of worms" with your message. Doing so actually draws answers a question many others did not feel bold enough to ask. Sorry again for what I said. I am also sending you a PM.
No worry mogul... I feel if I don't ask or post any of my photos I will never learn.
Copy right release form on the internet. You may charge your client money to release your photo's to them. Then no longer yours to use for anything.
You may also call the library of congress anytime you use a more famos photo or paragraph out of a book, poem, or change a song or even use it somehow to benefit. I know there is a time limit on copy rights on some items.
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