JAW Loc: LA

Hi Annie_Girl

I too would like to see examples of your work - posting some of your work here on the forum would be beneficial.
I'm not interested in Comments or Criticism of your work - hopefully that is not a reason for not showing us some of your work here on the forum. Seriously, we really want to see some of your work.
This way you aren't revealing any personal info from your website and still letting the members see a few of your best works. I look at it as a win win for all. Please give it do consideration as we all would like to see some of your work.

Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business

A win-win how? I post my images and I grant the owners of this site permission to use them or sell them as they see fit at no cost? I lose control of my work, break my contract and the trust I have with my clients. An example: A client or a client’s friend happens to do a google search for “boudoir photography” and finds their image in a google search linked back to UHH for the whole world to see, they read comments from uneducated members of UHH calling the image soft porn or even worse making snide comments about her looks, body shape and what must be her lack of morals. How do you handle that customer service call? How do you repair your professional reputation? I have worked hard at moving my business forward and getting to where I am, I’m not going to throw it away just to get my ego stroked.

Sharing my clients images when it comes down to it, really isn’t up to me, even thou I own the copyright, it’s up to my clients. I ask permission to share images for feedback to help me grow in my contract, the two forums I will post them in are named and I supply them links so they can see how locked down they are (they can’t get access past the log-in page). One forum is for boudoir photographers only and the other is for professional photographers, both are locked down and not open to the general public, thus helping to secure my client’s privacy. If a client requests that I don’t share them on the two pre-approved forums, I don’t.

JAW Loc: LA

Well Annie, if you can't or won't show us a sample of your work - it looks like it's a no show. I hear you state your case but on the other hand, seeing is believing. I'll just leave it at that. You can't show us any of your shots because it would affect you badly in too many different ways.

Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business

You can believe what you wish but I will not be pressured or bullied into breaking my contract with my clients.
I don't need an ego boast from members here, I know that my work is nicely done and I won’t receive any valuable feedback, the feedback I require is from other more seasoned photographers that understand lighting set-ups, posing for different body shapes, advanced post editing and stylized shot requirements. There are only a handful of photographers that post here that can even touch on those subjects, most here think they know what they are talking about but in reality don’t have a clue.

FYI: There are a few people on this forum who do have my webpage address, I’m pretty picky about who I share that information with.

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

I have followed (without commenting) on prior exchanges on UHH that involved Annie photographic niche. More than a few of the comments were self-righteous and mean spirited. Perhaps I should have commented...but did not do so as she is quite capable of defending herself-- not that she should have to.

And I agree with CapC: Annie DOES rock!

emmons267 Loc: Arizona, Valley of the Sun

Annie,
"...I don't need an ego boast from members here, I know that my work is nicely done and I won’t receive any valuable feedback, the feedback I require is from other more seasoned photographers that understand lighting set-ups, posing for different body shapes, advanced post editing and stylized shot requirements. There are only a handful of photographers that post here that can even touch on those subjects, most here think they know what they are talking about but in reality don’t have a clue..."

This comment begs the question, "why do you participate in this forum", but I already know the answer, it's obvious judging from your egoistic comments.
Happy Trails.

BillyDuds Loc: North Carolina

Hmmm. An interesting conundrum, but surely one faced by all professional photographers. No one would expect or ask any pro to reveal to the general public via search engine their client photos, whether risqué or mundane, without permission. That would be an unforgivable breach of trust and invasion of privacy. Not to even mention the messy legal ramifications.

Yet in this day and age, most businesses need a website with examples of their products or services. It's become a necessity to attract customers/clients. To pick a handy example, Russ Elkins posted a previous reply to this thread. In it, he included a link to his business website. I took the opportunity to look it over, and was most impressed by the fine quality of his work. It's great advertising for him.

It puzzles me how you can expect to grow your business without a website open to the general public. The pro my family uses has a website displaying attractive examples of his portraiture. He also has a password protected portion of the site where client photos are available for review by them only. That seems like a sensible business model, one I'd assumed was standard for professional photographers.

Which leaves me even more puzzled. If you don't have a site open to the general public, why not? If you do, why the refusal to share it with UHH members? Surely we're no more prudish than the folks in your hometown who may find you by search engine, advertisements or word of mouth. If you have a successful boudoir photography business, you must have developed a thick enough skin to handle the occasional sneer of disapproval from acquaintances there. Why trouble yourself about what some knucklehead thousands of miles away may think?

Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business

Didn't you make the same comment to Palepictures? oh hold said he suffered with "Narcissistic Arrogance" Does you have issues with people that are more successful and sure of themselves your than yourself? Please don't project your issues on others.

I come to this forum because I have friends here, I enjoy talking to others about photography, I enjoy helping others improve and believe it or not I learn some techniques and tricks from members here.

Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business

I do have a business website as well as a facebook page and a blog. I don't share it here because I do not wish to have my personal contact information available to members who have sent me nasty rude PMs. I have no desire for these people to have access to my address, phone numbers and email. Would you care to share your address and phone number with the members of UHH? If so please post it, because that is what you are asking me to do.

emmons267 Loc: Arizona, Valley of the Sun

Annie,
"...I come to this forum because I have friends here, I enjoy talking to others about photography, I enjoy helping others improve and believe it or not I learn some techniques and tricks from members here."

Well, that comment has a totally different tone to it then your previous one. That's more like it. And by the way, I don't find it hard to believe.

BillyDuds Loc: North Carolina

Point taken. Perhaps you could post some examples of your non-boudoir work? Landscapes maybe, or nature? Anything not showing an identifiable face, at any rate. After all, you have established a presence on this forum, and evidently others besides myself have an interest in your photography. If you don't care to go to that much bother, I understand completely. In any event, best wishes and I promise never to send you (or anyone else) on this site an ugly PM. :D

GPoyner Loc: North Dakota

I wasn't going to post, but this is enough......

I think everyone needs to respect Annie's decision on not providing her website and examples. If I remember correctly this is a family friendly site, thus if she would post a photo with an unidentifiable face in her realm of expertise she would be violating the site rules (or how I perceive them to be). Not to mention the comments and nasty remarks she may receive on the forum and via PMs.

I myself have seen a few remarks of people looking for numbers of a young lady (16 or so) in which their family member or friend did a photo shoot and posted here on the UHH. So back down everyone who is trying to get her to do something that is outside her values and morals.

Be grown ups and the proof is not always seeing...go to the religious section of this site and say proof is seeing and see what responses you get.

I am by no means as good as the majority of these people here and have lots to learn....but even the photos I've done with my daughter and friends I question posting due to the previous remarks of 'getting her number' (even though it may be in fun and no harm meant). I may find the courage to do post in the future, so I can learn and expand...but we will have to wait and see.


Thanks GP

Eveline

Oh for Pete's sake, why has this thread descended to another attack on Annie Girl. If she doesn't want to share her web-site or photos with UHH, it is her prerogative. Perhaps, we should go back to the original questions?

Firstly, rarely does selective colour look good. As for vignetting, a little darker vignette can be effective to highlight a subject, but the white vignettes turn me off. Most times, vignettes are unnecessary. Good lighting can accomplish the same thing. As for props, a little can help, but most are overdone, and it doesn't say anything about the baby itself. Having said all that, to each his own. Anne Geddes used props in her baby photos, and she has made a big name for herself. Not my style, but it has been successful for her.

MaggieMay1978 Loc: Calgary Alberta

All I asked was your opinions on Selective colour: Vingnetting-props on newborn photography shoots....... haha, this discussion definitely took another avenue :(
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Country's Mama Loc: Michigan

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