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Jun 28, 2013 11:54:53   #
GPappy Loc: Finally decided to plop down, Clover, S.C.
 
You can't post raw files.
Pics look right for what you have.
They are a little soft.
GP

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Jun 28, 2013 12:06:08   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Whitebasser wrote:
I have a canon 40D. Lens Canon 700-200 is ll 2.8 I also got the 1x 4 extender. I am not able to zoom in on pictures like I expected to do. Are the pictures posted on this forum cropped so close to pull them in or am I expecting too much. Tried to take pictures of birds about 25 feet away and they are not zoomed up close. I really wanted the 100-400 but this was all I could afford. Thanks for your help

If you really wanted the 100-400, you should have bought that one, it is waaaayyyy cheaper than the one you're shooting with now.

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Jun 28, 2013 12:07:39   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
If you want the subject to fill the frame then you will need to get closer. Since you have a 2.8 lens auto focus should not be affect with a 1.4 or even a 2x converter.

Practicing is the key, If you do not have Image stabilization then a shutter speed of 2x the focal length may be in order. Most lens have a sweet spot where they are the most sharpest. It's beneficial to experiment to find the sweet spot for your lens. It's usually between 4 and 8 on a 2.8 lens but they are all a little bit different. Experiment with the ISO limitation for you specific camera to find what your noise threshold is.

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Jun 28, 2013 12:11:31   #
Whitebasser Loc: East Texas
 
Pretty neat demo. Amazing how much difference from 0 to 70 Then 70 to 200. 200 to 280 is not a lot. As I understand that is what I get by adding extender. Also my properties break down on computer list it as 280 on the max. Hum!! Now I know why I have to save up or win lottery to get what I really want. Want and need I think are very different. Thank you so much for the info.

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Jun 28, 2013 12:25:55   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
Whitebasser wrote:
I have a canon 40D. Lens Canon 700-200 is ll 2.8 I also got the 1x 4 extender. I am not able to zoom in on pictures like I expected to do. Are the pictures posted on this forum cropped so close to pull them in or am I expecting too much. Tried to take pictures of birds about 25 feet away and they are not zoomed up close. I really wanted the 100-400 but this was all I could afford. Thanks for your help


Extenders generally don't work well on zooms. Zooms are stressed out a bit to begin with- The extender magnifies the zoom's limitations.

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Jun 28, 2013 12:26:03   #
Whitebasser Loc: East Texas
 
Thanks, I did not know that the auto focus does not work well with extender.

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Jun 28, 2013 12:27:34   #
Whitebasser Loc: East Texas
 
Sorry, I stated wrong. Not the 100-400 that I really wanted. It was the 300 or 400 but they are not in my price range at this time. Maybe I will get good enough with what I have to upgrade eventually. Thanks for the help.

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Jun 28, 2013 12:30:58   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
I use a 2x TC on a 80-200 2.8 and I have had zero problems with auto focus on a Nikon D80 and Nikon D7100. My friends with canons have similar experiences

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Jun 28, 2013 13:50:26   #
Whitebasser Loc: East Texas
 
Thanks.

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Jun 28, 2013 14:30:24   #
natron
 
...I couldn't help myself...



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Jun 28, 2013 14:57:43   #
Whitebasser Loc: East Texas
 
OMG how did you do that. Seriously!!!!

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Jun 28, 2013 15:13:21   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Samuraiz wrote:
I use a 2x TC on a 80-200 2.8 and I have had zero problems with auto focus on a Nikon D80 and Nikon D7100. My friends with canons have similar experiences

Same here, I use the 1.4xIII on my 70-200 and also on my 400/5.6, no auto focus problems with either one.

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Jun 28, 2013 15:21:40   #
Crazytooth Loc: Suffolk, UK
 
I'm no expert but the bird shot with the extender is further away that the bird without, on the other side of the hose. If it was me I would test it on something static from a tripod to get a true comparison

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Jun 28, 2013 16:46:28   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
Whitebasser wrote:
OMG how did you do that. Seriously!!!!


I'm not the guy who did it, but it looks like just a normal crop. I can see the grain/noise starting to come up.

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Jun 28, 2013 18:46:21   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Whitebasser wrote:
Thanks for all of your input. I am posting a few pictures to see what you think. I better understand how the lens, camera and extender work together. I am trying so hard to understand how to make the triangle of iso, shutter, and aparture work so my pics may not be tack sharp. I am struggling. Someone suggest that I post a few so here goes. I thought these were shot in raw but they are coming up jpeg???


Find bigger birds, just kidding, but it is a thought. A 300 to 400mm lens would be the choice for most birders. I think that you have good equipment but you are going to have to get closer even with a more powerful lens. There is an old lens that is really a pretty good lens that you can sometimes find for about $200 on ebay that I bet that you would be happy with. The old Tamron f/5.6 200-400 LD. I have twice owned that lens and twice sold it because I was not using it. But my experience was that it was really a pretty high quality lens at a very reasonable price. I also suspect that many, not all but many of the photos you see posted on the forum are cropped.

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