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Dec 21, 2011 13:38:03   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
photopop44 wrote:
The tutorial is Chris Bray speaking for CannonAustralia the link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=DBshTYrFbKI

In film days the belief was that slower shutter speeds gave the film MORE time to become saturated. does a sensor have a Goldilocks exposure time? Not too little, not too much?


I believe that since the was speaking of "low light conditions and shutter speed", that he meant that it's better to shoot on a tripod, with a slower shutter speed and as low an ISO as possible than to shoot with a higher shutter speed and high ISO for better color saturation. Since this is a very basic tutorial, he didn't get into a lot of detail. You can't blame him since a beginner is likely to be confused if too much detail is taught. This is the basics :)

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Dec 21, 2011 13:51:23   #
llindstrand Loc: Seattle Metro
 
photopop44 wrote:
In a youtube eos tutorial that was recomended here the tutor states that slower shutter speeds produce richer colors and more detail. With out regard to depth of field and freezing the action does this benifit come from a slower shutter and why?



I think this will explain more than you wanted to know about depth of field. I have always heard that if you photograph a subject that has a depth function to it and you want to get the focus approximately the same from front to back you use a small aperture. The link below will answer the question and give you an example. I think the reason the M&M picture made no difference is that there is no depth in the original!

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/depth-of-field.htm

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Dec 21, 2011 14:28:26   #
fotowerks Loc: San Diego, CA
 
Done and done!

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Dec 21, 2011 14:57:58   #
Ragarm
 
Quite right, as I read it. The M&Ms test really addressed something else. While it was well done, it compensated exposure. The video explanation, your explanation, and my previous all addressed changing shutter speed without compensating.

It was basic, so much so that most of these accomplished photogs overlooked it, like not seeing the forest for the trees. No criticism intended. I saw it because I'm not so accomplished.

jeep_daddy wrote:
photopop44 wrote:
The tutorial is Chris Bray speaking for CannonAustralia the link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=DBshTYrFbKI

In film days the belief was that slower shutter speeds gave the film MORE time to become saturated. does a sensor have a Goldilocks exposure time? Not too little, not too much?


I believe that since the was speaking of "low light conditions and shutter speed", that he meant that it's better to shoot on a tripod, with a slower shutter speed and as low an ISO as possible than to shoot with a higher shutter speed and high ISO for better color saturation. Since this is a very basic tutorial, he didn't get into a lot of detail. You can't blame him since a beginner is likely to be confused if too much detail is taught. This is the basics :)
quote=photopop44 The tutorial is Chris Bray speak... (show quote)

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Dec 21, 2011 17:01:08   #
Pathfinder Loc: Naches, Wa
 
Roger Salls wrote:
Huh??? What being smoked.
photopop44 wrote:
In a youtube eos tutorial that was recomended here the tutor states that slower shutter speeds produce richer colors and more detail. With out regard to depth of field and freezing the action does this benifit come from a slower shutter and why?

Must be some slow burning weed!

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Dec 21, 2011 17:12:52   #
Ragarm
 
fotowerks wrote:
Done and done!


Here's another site that does a good job on the technology.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/camera-sensors.htm

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Dec 21, 2011 19:49:40   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
I have to admit too slow of a shutter speed has been my downfall for too many shots. I think I will rely on RAW files and post processing for colors. Too risky unless you are experimenting on a tripod.

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Dec 21, 2011 20:18:50   #
Cappy Loc: Wildwood, NJ
 
snobear, the .3 second one seems to be slightly darker color for the candies & the "M"'s seem to be more defined.

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Dec 21, 2011 21:08:27   #
Greg Loc: Maryland
 
RLPCEP wrote:
snowbear wrote:
The test is done. I took six shots in aperture priority, using full stops: f/4, f/5.6, f/8, f/11, f/16 and f/22. Nikon D40, AF 50mm f/1.8 Nikkor, ISO 200, incandescent lighting. All were shot directly to jpeg, no enhancements, sRGB, no post processing. I did change the file names to match the shutter speed and aperture.

I can see no difference in color saturation in my test. Here are the shortest and longest shutter speeds in the series.

The series can be seen at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52003104@N03/sets/72157628501927485/
The test is done. I took six shots in aperture pr... (show quote)


The "M" on the M&Ms seems to stand out a bit more at f4.
quote=snowbear The test is done. I took six shot... (show quote)


Wait a minute, some of them have w's on them wtf!!

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Dec 21, 2011 21:35:47   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
Greg wrote:
Wait a minute, some of them have w's on them wtf!!


You noticed. That makes it your job to alphabetize the M&Ms...

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Dec 21, 2011 22:01:57   #
julesreyesmarko Loc: Los Angeles
 
nikonshooter wrote:
Roger Salls wrote:
I wonder whether reciprocity is a relavant thing with digital?


Nope


Just took a digital course with an instructor who worked as a professional and got into the digital end from the start. He also co-designed the digital courses and is a wealth of knowledge in photography in general. From what he has explained is there is reciprocity, but it gives off a yellowish, reddish, orangey color, compared to film which gives off blueish, greenish, purpley color. Not as nice as film, and the shutter can't be left open as long as some film cameras allow. I've seen images where the shutter was left open for hours and the images were dreamy, sharp, and spectacular.

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Dec 21, 2011 23:32:11   #
Virgil Loc: The Hoosier State
 
I have positioned the 2 images so that I can see identical areas of both shots and unless my eyes are deceiving me I think the 10 sec shot is very slightly darker or more color saturated especially in the blue m&ms and a little in the orange ones.
Even the plate seems a little darker.

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Dec 22, 2011 00:20:15   #
Mpeter45 Loc: Springfield, Illinois
 
Looks to me like the F22 shot is a little darker.

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Dec 22, 2011 01:03:18   #
jackinkc Loc: Kansas City
 
julesreyesmarko wrote:
nikonshooter wrote:
Roger Salls wrote:
I wonder whether reciprocity is a relavant thing with digital?


Nope


Just took a digital course with an instructor who worked as a professional and got into the digital end from the start. He also co-designed the digital courses and is a wealth of knowledge in photography in general. From what he has explained is there is reciprocity, but it gives off a yellowish, reddish, orangey color, compared to film which gives off blueish, greenish, purpley color. Not as nice as film, and the shutter can't be left open as long as some film cameras allow. I've seen images where the shutter was left open for hours and the images were dreamy, sharp, and spectacular.
quote=nikonshooter quote=Roger Salls I wonder wh... (show quote)


Where did you take your digital course?

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Dec 22, 2011 02:14:28   #
julesreyesmarko Loc: Los Angeles
 
Los Angeles City College

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