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Dec 18, 2011 17:33:23   #
Uncle Henry Loc: North Port, Florida
 
JackKLE wrote:
One more "Senior Moment" ! Seems like they're becoming Hours, now. But, it still seems that I was using 220, and I DID get 8 exp, per roll.


Another senior. I seem toremember that the basic difference was that 220 had a paper backing and 120 did not. You could load 220 in dim light. ( Think Brownie Hawkeye) Also the sprocket holes were different. But the negatives were square and made 8 exposures per roll. I think the question is whether your stated size actually gave you 8 shots or more? I used both Bronica and Mamiya 2-1/4s back in late 1980s with 120 film. Gave up Brownie in 1969 when I bought my first entry level Canon TLB and a Yashica Electro 35 for snap shots. The Bronica and Mamiya are long gone, the others are still gathering dust on a shelf.

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Dec 18, 2011 17:38:18   #
jerseydevil Loc: Galloway NJ
 
There should be a replavement battery that will work, If it's the same size & voltage it should work. Check "BATTERIES" on the internet, lots of sites available.

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Dec 18, 2011 17:47:08   #
jerseydevil Loc: Galloway NJ
 
You may even find some Mercury Batteries on EBAY, they last for years if kept cool.

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Dec 18, 2011 17:53:30   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
Uncle henry,

120 film has a paper backing, from end to end. 220 has a paper leader and tail end. The negatives may be square or not depending on size, i.e. 6x6, 6x7 or 6x9. The number of negatives will based on the format size.

THere are no spocket holes on this type of film.

Batteries can also be purchased at a speciality battery store. At least we have several of those here.

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Dec 18, 2011 17:55:03   #
waterwheel2 Loc: Simpsonville SC
 
Donna
Could you please ask your dad what the model's are of the 2 Minolta cameras that he wants to sell. Also list any accessories.

Thank You
Bob Hopp
bh6425@charter.net

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Dec 18, 2011 18:02:01   #
1941Buckeye Loc: home is Miami Co., Ohio
 
RockinRobinG wrote:
snowbear wrote:
One thing using film does is make you slow down and think about the shot.

Since I can't get the old batteries, the last time I used my Minolta, I took the D40 along to meter.


Check with a local jewelry store for batteries.


Don't know what battery using your camera. My Olympus is using right now 2L76, Energizer. Normally I use the Duracell both for camera and for hearing aid. If I get stuck on camera battery, I just use 2 h/a stack up.Rarely use h/a any more so gotta keep camera battery. If that or similar is what you need, go to a Walgreen or other that sell these type batteries. Good luck about them!

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Dec 18, 2011 18:07:23   #
1941Buckeye Loc: home is Miami Co., Ohio
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
Yes. Most of my site (see signature) deals with what I persist in regarding as 'real' photography, despite the fact that I also use digital a lot. My oldest camera is between 100 and 120 years old (Gandolfi Universal)and I have literally dozens of film cameras that see varying degrees of use. From 'Welcome to Film', http://www.rogerandfrances.com/subscription/ps%20film%20welcome.html

"Once upon a time, when the world was young, the vast majority of photographers shot only black and white and colour was a novelty, so there were numerous books and magazine articles on how to make the transition to the new medium. Later, when colour was fully established and digital imaging was a novelty, there came a spate of books and articles about how to adapt to digital photography; a flood that has not yet abated. But we are hearing from more and more photographers who have acquired an interest in photography via digital imaging, and are wondering why so many people still use film. In short, for many, traditional film has become the novelty.

There are no books and precious few articles for those who want to go from digital to film: surprisingly few editors are far-sighted enough to publish them. Well, we still use film, and here is why, garnered from our own experience and that of others who have never stopped; or have gone back to film after trying digital; or who, after growing up on digital, have decided to use film either alongside or instead of digital. "

Cheers,

R.
Yes. Most of my site (see signature) deals with wh... (show quote)


Go to second hand or use bookstores for the literature. I have many of all kind. Unfortunately, what I read of this, my brain won't process that any more, and I need help. I am happy to share what I have. Merry Christmas y'all! Buckeye

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Dec 18, 2011 18:17:51   #
Uncle Henry Loc: North Port, Florida
 
1941Buckeye

Hi from Uncle Henry. You asked what camera I use now. Its a Canon A3000IS. The last film cameras I used were Canon AE1, AE1 Program, A1 and EOS Kiss. They are all too heavy to hold any more. I need to stay light and inexpensive but need better macro to photograph spiders. This camera is good for flowers though. Can't afford much on SS. With memory loss it took 6 months just to remember the basics. Can remember things from 20 years ago but not 5 minutes ago. When the weather warms up this spring I want to concentrate on Brown Widow spiders. Great color variations but they move too fast. :mrgreen:

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Dec 18, 2011 18:20:29   #
1941Buckeye Loc: home is Miami Co., Ohio
 
Buckeye914 wrote:
I still use a Canon AE-1 Program which is in great condition. Film is definitely more fun and challenging. I hope to always use it some even though I have moved to a Nikon D5100 as a main camera.


But what is metering? Like I told someone else, I am not acting out with questions. 1990 my brain lost a lot in stroke and I need to know. What is gone, I want to try and get back. So I apologize, but I still want to know what is it? Thanks, Buckeye

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Dec 18, 2011 18:22:21   #
nyweb2001
 
1941Buckeye wrote:
Roger Hicks wrote:
Yes. Most of my site (see signature) deals with what I persist in regarding as 'real' photography, despite the fact that I also use digital a lot. My oldest camera is between 100 and 120 years old (Gandolfi Universal)and I have literally dozens of film cameras that see varying degrees of use. From 'Welcome to Film', http://www.rogerandfrances.com/subscription/ps%20film%20welcome.html

"Once upon a time, when the world was young, the vast majority of photographers shot only black and white and colour was a novelty, so there were numerous books and magazine articles on how to make the transition to the new medium. Later, when colour was fully established and digital imaging was a novelty, there came a spate of books and articles about how to adapt to digital photography; a flood that has not yet abated. But we are hearing from more and more photographers who have acquired an interest in photography via digital imaging, and are wondering why so many people still use film. In short, for many, traditional film has become the novelty.

There are no books and precious few articles for those who want to go from digital to film: surprisingly few editors are far-sighted enough to publish them. Well, we still use film, and here is why, garnered from our own experience and that of others who have never stopped; or have gone back to film after trying digital; or who, after growing up on digital, have decided to use film either alongside or instead of digital. "

Cheers,

R.
Yes. Most of my site (see signature) deals with wh... (show quote)


Go to second hand or use bookstores for the literature. I have many of all kind. Unfortunately, what I read of this, my brain won't process that any more, and I need help. I am happy to share what I have. Merry Christmas y'all! Buckeye
quote=Roger Hicks Yes. Most of my site (see signa... (show quote)


Wow ! Didn't know that was your site Roger ! I'm using your site exclusively to get back into B&W film and developing ! That and a few books by AA ! Perfect site for me !!

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Dec 18, 2011 18:25:59   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
Metering is the act of using the in camera meter or a hand held meter to determine some suggestions as to shutter speed/fstop combination to make an exposure that you feel is the correct one.

Until you get to LF cameras , modern day cameras have a built in light meter. You set the ISO of the film/digital your using . Determine if you want to use your camera in manual mode, or a priority mode. With the priority modes, pick a value and the meter will fill in the blank so to speak.

Meters vary from camera to camera and altho, they are very good at what they do, it is still just a recommendation, not an absolute.

Give google a run and you will probably find more information you expect.

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Dec 18, 2011 18:27:41   #
jerseydevil Loc: Galloway NJ
 
120 definitly had Paper backing, I just checked because I still have a few rolls. In 2 1/4 Square format it gave you 12 negatives, in 2 1/4 X 3 1/4 it gave you eight, 120 & 620 were similar but 620 had a smaller spool, probabaly was created so that a thinner camera could be designed, same thing with 116 & 616 film. My Rolli has a kit that lets you take a smaller picture & get more shots per roll. It was fine for personal stuff, but didn't give you the quality like the 2 1/4 Square did.

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Dec 18, 2011 18:30:00   #
Uncle Henry Loc: North Port, Florida
 
photocat wrote:
Uncle henry,

120 film has a paper backing, from end to end. 220 has a paper leader and tail end. The negatives may be square or not depending on size, i.e. 6x6, 6x7 or 6x9. The number of negatives will based on the format size.

THere are no spocket holes on this type of film.

Batteries can also be purchased at a speciality battery store. At least we have several of those here.


Thanks for refreshing my memory. Just shows how hard it can be to retain when you get older, at least for some of us. I do remember that the tail fed into a slot and had to turn a knob and view picture number in a little red window.

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Dec 18, 2011 18:30:04   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
Buckeye,
here this should get you started.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/camera-exposure.htm

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Dec 18, 2011 18:30:44   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
I, along with Ken Rockwell and Peter Lik believe that shooting Fuji Velvia with proper scanning can yield superior results to current digital. That said, telephoto sports and nature work with Velvia requires the fastest multithousand dollar lenses 300 f2.8, 400 f2.8 - well you get the picture - which is impractical for most of us ! Shooting film with wide to normal angle lenses is a little more attractive/practical. I am a Canon digital shooter for longer telephoto work. And for medium telephoto I try to use a Pentax 645N with 180mm F2.8 and 300mm f4 Carl Zeiss lenses for the Pentacon 6X6 with adapter ( the Pentax lenses are great too). For serious wide angle work, I try to use a home made camera that I made from a Russian 6X9 Moskva 5 and a Mamiya Press 50mm F6.3 lens ( equivilent to 21mm ) - see photo attached. The 56X85mm film image is easily cropped to panoramic formats. The nearest E6 processing for me is 50 miles away !



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