Ziza Loc: USA

Do you have Elements 7, 8, 9, or 10? These versions came with Photoshop.com, a service which allowed you to share your photos online, back them up, and sync them (either from within Elements or via your web browser). Beginning with Elements 11, this service is gone from this program. Its replacement is called Adobe Revel.


Photoshop.com offered two accounts -- Basic (free) and Premium (purchase). And so does Adobe Revel.


Please note that Photoshop.com was optional. If you didn’t want to use it, then you didn’t have to. Adobe couldn’t upload your photos to Photoshop.com. If you had photos on Photoshop.com, then you did it yourself. Also, your original photos remained on your computer.

It is the same thing with Adobe Revel. If you don’t want your photos moved from Photoshop.com to this new service, then you yourself need to remove them from Photoshop.com. For quite a while Adobe has been sending notices to owners of Elements concerning this. They informed everyone when the moving was going to begin. So, if you didn’t remove your photos from Photoshop.com by the time Adobe initiated the moving, then it was understood that you wanted Adobe Revel and was OK with Adobe moving your photos themselves.


You can find the original information here: http://www.photoshop.com/misc/membership-faq

IMPORTANT: Adobe sent out a mass e-mail to Elements users. It is highly probable that even those users who didn't have a Photoshop.com account received this notification. If you are one of those, then there is nothing to worry about. And, if you want to use Adobe Revel, all you have to is log in with your Adobe ID. (You should have one if you have Elements.)

R'laine Loc: Bay of Plenty, New Zealand.

And me. Tried a trial of one, their blurb indicated that the free trial would be a reasonable amount of data, hah, 7 files and I was being asked to subscribe. And now I cannot uninstall the darned program so I get messages each day telling me my files are "unprotected". I have everything on an external hard drive, plus two computers.
I was spectacularly underwhelmed by the experience. I think I'll stick to what I'm doing for the moment.

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

There was 10 page plus or minus discussion a week or so about this and how Adobe is going to The Cloud with software subscriptions....(don't get me started again with this topic). Just do a search for Cloud or Adobe Cloud.

FilmFanatic Loc: Waikato, New Zealand

And when your hard drive gets nicked by burglars you will wish you had gotten that Crashplan subscription

I have an external plus Crashplan so my restore will be quick assuming I have the drive still. If not, that is why I have Crashplan.

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

And when companies start charging for data retrieval (ie. per MB or TB) If I were a betting man...I'd give a 100 to 1 odds that's where it's heading....I'm guessing within 5 years...all your data will be held hostage for more than just a monthly subscription. Already software companies are doing it. Comes down to more money in it for them....they are taking lessons from the gas companies..."Charge it, they pay, they may complain for a bit at first....but what choice will they have."

strikerazde Loc: Phoenix, AZ

To say "I would not recommend cloud storage" and not give an alternative for off-site backup is a little silly. What does he recommend? Anybody who does not have an off site BU solution is taking big chances in my opinion.

Brenda IS Scottish Loc: GOLDEN Colorado

I do the same thing but I have 3 external drives. One has the pictures right out of the camera with no organization, the other has "backup" images created from the import into lightroom and the 3rd is my computer backupdrive which saves my photo's also. It may be overkill, but overall the drive price is cheap so backup as much as I can.

DaveHam Loc: Reading UK

Ah - the cloud. The solution to nothing but the cause of debate and problems.

Adobe is not developing beyond CS6 outside of the cloud. Clearly someone at Adobe has been reading the wrong magazines.

Some points for anyone thinking of the cloud and for Adobe.

Most of the world does not currently support internet access sufficiently fast to make the cloud usable. And I include half of Europe, two thirds of USA, and 90% of Africa/India in that zone. So you are travelling for ten days, be prepared to spend eight of those days trying to get your files on to the cloud before you can process them.

The cloud consists of a number of new companies created to offer platforms and storage accesses via the internet. Most of those companies will fail / get taken over / disappear as is the case with all internet based technologies. Data will be lost with this process. And no one takes responsibility for it. The alternative? That will be your own storage array that YOU control, own, and are responsible for.

When you put data on the internet you are at the mercy of the people hosting you whose charges, privacy practices and just about anything else you think of can be changed as they 're-evaluate their business model' in an effort to gouge even more money from you. Just look at the constant problems with facebook and the rest of these internet based organisations.

Looking after you own data is easy. Make at least three copies, and keep one off site, even use an internet based backup service for this. Hard disks do not cost a fortune anymore, certainly less than an annual subscription to the cloud.

Don't trust some start up technology suffering from the over hype that surrounds the internet!

And anyone with a decent alternative to Adobe, now is the time!

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

That's not exactly what he said. Even the original paragraph is only part of his statement. I bet if you looked at his book it would contain an alternative.

If you read the entire thread, there are several alternatives offered here.

strikerazde Loc: Phoenix, AZ

Yup, that's why I asked what his alternative was. Not the UHH threads alternative. I know what those are, just wanted to see what kind of Arthur he was.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

I keep hoping that credit card companies will have a massive failure that will erase my balances. I keep my balances as high as possible, so that if it does happen, I will have something to celebrate. :D

DragonsLady Loc: Los Alamos, NM

I've never had my question about any Cloud storage answered to my satisfaction. Bear with me a moment - We have recently moved into the more active sunspot period of the 13 year cycle. What bothers me about any cloud storage is how will it be affected by a large solar storm event that sends a huge event our way. Back in the 1800's after telegraphy was spreading across the country, there was a large solar event that hit the earth with the result that no external electric connection was needed to send a telegram for about 7 days. With that in mind and knowing how planes can have problems if they're in the air when such an event happens, what do you think will happen to anything in some cloud storage somewhere? Unless the storage units are heavily protected by some kind of shielding (and perhaps in an underground facility covered by granite) I'm pretty sure my data would be toast. Still trying to figure out how to protect my EXHDs, too. (Bank Vault?) Anyway, just a thought. I'll go back to lurking now.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

You do realize that the data isn't actually stored in a cloud, right? :D

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

I use two external hard drives and Carbonite. Yes upload speeds are slow but after the initial set up it works fine. No fuss and it is all automatic. I don't need to worry about taking an external drive to the bank or someplace else. Using both external hard drives and cloud storage is the only way to go. If you have a fire or hurricane, I'm in S Fla,saving to the cloud saves the day. As far as trusting a third party, if someone at Carbonite wants to take the time to browse my files, more power to them. And they have been around long enough I don't think they are going away. There are several other reputable cloud services also.

strikerazde Loc: Phoenix, AZ

LOL - Jerry41 is correct there is really nothing in the cloud. It only refers to a access method. So if your data in the "cloud" is effected, my entire data center will be effected the same way. And OMG all medical records could be wiped out - NOT.

I shudder at the thought of Gozillions of 1's and 0's floating around in the clouds!