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May 13, 2013 14:52:46   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
CaptainC wrote:
Every time I see an image with selective color, I have to stifle my gag reflex, but this may have exceeded even that threshold:

http://youarenotaphotographer.com/couple-funny-selective-coloring-photos/


Are you trying to infect the systems of all us PC users? My browser is working overtime to block all the pop-ups on this site. <joke> Really, Captain, you need to find a different source of entertainment. :-)

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May 13, 2013 15:00:30   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Over the years I’ve seen a few (very few) spot color shots that I’ve liked but I could count them on one hand. One was a B&W of the bride and grooms hands with the rings spot colored. Another was an ad for a haunted house with the house and surrounding timber all in B&W and peering out the window was Count Dracula with a faint splash of red in his eyes. I’ve seen very few photos where spot color adds anything to the photo. In my opinion is always comes off as a gimmick. I have seen a few in advertizing that work as it can be used to draw attention to whatever you’re trying to sell. Please keep in mind that my comments are only a statement of MY opinion. Like music, I don’t like hillbilly music but that doesn’t mean it’s bad music only that I don’t like it but even in hillbilly music I can tell you what is and isn’t in tune and if wrong notes are played I hear them. My point is that even a photo that utilizes spot coloring has to start out as a good photo.

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May 13, 2013 15:15:24   #
CBL19six9 Loc: Horseshoe Bay, Texas
 
Annie_Girl wrote:
Sadly that site is real and the photographers that are featured there really do believe they are producing quaitly images. If you visit enough, sometimes one of the featured photographers will find out they made the page and well that's when it get's interesting.

Or of course you can visit the forum there where people post their images for feedback and to find out if they are "fauxtogs" are not. Warning... if you aren't ready for the truth, don't post there. I like to read there, it's pure drama at times, lol.
Sadly that site is real and the photographers that... (show quote)


Oh my... yeah that's good reading lol! :-)
and btw ..,I also agree that Annie rocks

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May 13, 2013 15:15:57   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Mousie M wrote:
I think bokeh is generally understood and used correctly on UHH, but what would you suggest in its place?

I would suggest boke-aji (&#12508;&#12465;&#21619;), the "blur quality".
EDIT: LOL Looks like this editor doesn't like Japanese. I can't get rid of that smiley that's not supposed to be there.

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May 13, 2013 15:30:05   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Annie_Girl wrote:
The thing is all of the images on youarenotaphotographer.com are taken from working "professional's" websites. They are showing this stuff as their best.

I know it's hard to believe, but it's true.


I don't buy it. I used to work at a photography lab where many professionals dropped off their work for processing and printing. Never did I see anything remotely as amateurishly executed by any of those career professionals as these pics.

Quite a few of the examples posted seem to be shot with a primitive iphone camera or the like. No, I think for the most part these images are nothing more than non-photographers having fun on facebook and flickr.

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May 13, 2013 15:51:18   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I don't buy it. I used to work at a photography lab where many professionals dropped off their work for processing and printing. Never did I see anything remotely as amateurishly executed by any of those career professionals as these pics.

Quite a few of the examples posted seem to be shot with a primitive iphone camera or the like. No, I think for the most part these images are nothing more than non-photographers having fun on facebook and flickr.


This is the result of society's need to tell people "They can do whatever they want" and awarding everyone a trophy just for trying. It even happens here on this site, "as long as the client is happy" mentality has produced "professional" photographers that produce work like those sampled on that webpage.

I can directly link you to a few of there "business" pages on facebook, if you require proof that they are truley solicating for clients and charging for their work.

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May 13, 2013 16:14:50   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CaptainC wrote:
Every time I see an image with selective color, I have to stifle my gag reflex, but this may have exceeded even that threshold:

http://youarenotaphotographer.com/couple-funny-selective-coloring-photos/

Well, as the title says, "Funny..." They got the intended reaction from me. They made me laugh. No one can take that type of thing seriously. I used to see it quite a bit in TV advertising, but it's usefulness has apparently expired. I have a Canon P&S that can do that, but I've used it only once, just to see how it worked.

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May 13, 2013 16:17:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I don't buy it. I used to work at a photography lab where many professionals dropped off their work for processing and printing. Never did I see anything remotely as amateurishly executed by any of those career professionals as these pics.

Quite a few of the examples posted seem to be shot with a primitive iphone camera or the like. No, I think for the most part these images are nothing more than non-photographers having fun on facebook and flickr.

Speaking of the iPhone, I read an article about how each version has gotten better, and the next one will continue that tradition. It supposedly has the best camera of any cell phone and takes better pictures than some P&S cameras (according to the article).

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May 13, 2013 16:23:34   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Nothing new and it’s not only relative to photography. Nine out of ten homes have some kind of musical instrument but only a small percentage would qualify as professional musicians. There are many very amateurish musicians playing in local bands in local bars and hotels but because they’re paid they’re considered “pros”. They do however fill a need and provide value in that they provide entertainment to those who would otherwise have none. Not many local bars can afford to bring Rod Stewart in on a Saturday night. If you think about photography isn’t much different. I think Annie_Girl and others like her should be commended for their willingness to let folks know that she’s not trying to be all things to all people and that if you don’t like or agree with her business model you’re free to go elsewhere with her blessing. Annie_Girl shows no animosity to those who don’t share her vision. Too often we think that if others don’t share our visions, interests and attitudes they are somehow less important or relative, not so. You may demand a specific level of competence in a photographer but be totally happy listening to an amateurish musician or visa-versa. Not always a question of right or wrong but more about priority and taste…as always JMHO.

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May 13, 2013 17:22:52   #
James Eslinger Loc: Kentucky
 
Arrgh! Some people should NOT have Photoshop, CC will weed out some of this I hope!!! (Ah man, I hope this doesn't start another fight on UGHH.)

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May 13, 2013 17:23:27   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
Pepper wrote:
Nothing new and it’s not only relative to photography. Nine out of ten homes have some kind of musical instrument but only a small percentage would qualify as professional musicians. There are many very amateurish musicians playing in local bands in local bars and hotels but because they’re paid they’re considered “pros”. They do however fill a need and provide value in that they provide entertainment to those who would otherwise have none. Not many local bars can afford to bring Rod Stewart in on a Saturday night. If you think about photography isn’t much different. I think Annie_Girl and others like her should be commended for their willingness to let folks know that she’s not trying to be all things to all people and that if you don’t like or agree with her business model you’re free to go elsewhere with her blessing. Annie_Girl shows no animosity to those who don’t share her vision. Too often we think that if others don’t share our visions, interests and attitudes they are somehow less important or relative, not so. You may demand a specific level of competence in a photographer but be totally happy listening to an amateurish musician or visa-versa. Not always a question of right or wrong but more about priority and taste…as always JMHO.
Nothing new and it’s not only relative to photogra... (show quote)


Thank you Pepper. Hope you are having a great day.

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May 13, 2013 18:06:48   #
LPigott Loc: Monterey Peninsula, CA
 
Sorry I looked.

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May 13, 2013 18:30:14   #
Drigby1 Loc: American Fork, UT
 
CaptainC wrote:
Every time I see an image with selective color, I have to stifle my gag reflex, but this may have exceeded even that threshold:

http://youarenotaphotographer.com/couple-funny-selective-coloring-photos/


Agreed. Those are (sorry to artists) just yucky.

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May 13, 2013 18:48:11   #
Mousie M Loc: Coventry, UK
 
OddJobber wrote:
I would suggest boke-aji (&#12508;&#12465;&#21619;), the "blur quality".
EDIT: LOL Looks like this editor doesn't like Japanese. I can't get rid of that smiley that's not supposed to be there.


In the famous words of the tennis player "you cannot be serious, man"! That thing is even worse than bokeh!

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May 13, 2013 18:49:40   #
Mousie M Loc: Coventry, UK
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Bokeh is often confused with selective focus or shallow depth of field.

Example- a mirror lens is considered to have bad bokeh due to the doughnut-shaped out of focus highlights.


Bokeh is not that the image has shallow depth of field.
Bokeh refers to the quality of the out of focus areas.

From Wikipedia:
"the "bokeh" of the lens, that is the character of the image in the out-of-focus areas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh#See_also

http://digital-photography-school.com/deciphering-photo-jargon-learn-to-speak-photographer :
Bokehis used to described the out of focus blurred bits in the background when “fast glass” is used. Most often bokeh occurs where small light sources are in the background, far in the distance.

Read more: http://digital-photography-school.com/deciphering-photo-jargon-learn-to-speak-photographer#ixzz2TCD77l70

Love him or hate him, Ken Rockwell's take:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm

Nikon and Minolta (and I assume Canon) have lenses that adjusted the bokeh- different than just changing the aperture.
Bokeh is often confused with selective focus or sh... (show quote)


Yes OK Goofie, I got all the stuff about what it means. But you said that you hate the word - so what are you suggesting in its place?

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