russelray wrote:
I can tell you after a recent incident a couple of weeks ago that you still have the software but it doesn't work if you don't pay your subscription fee.
Very true...in fact I have three subscriptions, no 4...and if I fail to pay the monthly...your in the dumper.
Use PS Elements. GIMP, Corel, anything but PS. Its death is near. At those pricess only graphic companies and well to do photographers can keep it up. They are doomed to failure. Or is it that they do not have anything to improve PS anymore?
Attention: You do not have to be on the internet to use Adobe CC. Try this link and scroll down to the Tuesday 7 May 2013 part of Scott's Blog. He answers pretty much all the questions about CC.
http://scottkelby.com/
rudyp16 wrote:
How does it stack up against Paint Shop Pro and PhotoPlus. These 2 look very powerful and they are reasonable.
I used Photoshop for years but switched to Elements two years ago and have never, ever found a reason to regret it. In fact, there are some things that Elements will do even easier than in Photoshop! I love it. I have version 10 and find it does so much more than what I'll ever need to do. Great software!
I see there is a petition available to sign to stop this on Ephotozine
flyguy
Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico
rudyp16 wrote:
It will not run from the cloud. You download the software to your PC/laptop from the cloud.
I'm real pis%$# off at this because the old upgrade was 199.00 for PhotoShop until the next major upgrade which could be a couple of years. Now it's 19.99 a month for a 1 year subscription which comes out to 240.00 a year.
They seem to think of users of their software as "cash cows" to keep their coffers full.
planepics
Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
I've never done anything from the cloud, wouldn't pay to do so, and I still can't figure out the PS7 I was given a while ago. I might ask for Elements for Christmas, though. I think the new Elements would do lots more (and probably easier) than PS7. I mostly use Picasa anyways.
Get used to this. Microsoft is already doing this and I expect all software companies to go to this method. It has been talked about for several years now. By going to the cloud users will not be able to sell "discounted" software on Craigslist or Amazon. This also will eliminate production costs. Sorry for the bad news.
In opinion Adobe is looking for a continues cash flow. In the past all new revenue was generated by upgrades and new products. Also desktops and laptops sales are down and tablet sales are up. So with their cloud you can use it on the tablet, the current trend.
what big raw files and many different layers on a tablet, where do you get all the required memory from?
This was written by a good friend of mine, a pro photographer. Thought I would share. As much as I myself can't say I am happy, I can understand. My guess, Adobe will make some concessions down the road, lets hope that is a short road.
The photographic world is up in arms right now because Adobe announced that they are ending the Creative Suite line of products and moving everything, with a few exceptions, to the Creative Cloud. This means that you will no longer be able to buy programs like Photoshop, but will have to subscribe to the software. I have seen tons of tweets, G+ posts and Facebook updates about people talking about alternatives to Photoshop and how the idea of subscribing to software doesnt sit well with them. Truth be told, I was not such a huge fan of the model when it was first introduced some time ago, but the more I think about it the more it seems to make sense to me.
I currently use Lightroom for 100% of the images I create. For my conventional photography I use Photoshop about 10% of the time, but for my IR work I use Photoshop 100% of the time. I also use an older version of Premier Elements for some of my time lapse videos. When you factor in the cost of upgrading Lightroom and Photoshop when new versions come out, the Creative Cloud might not make much sense, but when you factor in the ability to now use Premier Pro, that changes the game for me. I think it would for a lot of people, but I sort of question if it is actually a matter of cost that has a lot of photographers upset about all of this?
It is probably no secret, but Photoshop is one of the most pirated pieces of software out there. One of the reasons for this is that Adobe charges, IMO, way to much for it. It seems to me that one of the reasons for Adobe to make this bold of a move is to actually crack down on the number of illegal copies of Photoshop, and other Creative Suite products that are floating around out there, and if that is indeed the reason, it is hard for me to fault them for that. I have always found it very ironic that certain photographers will get upset if one of their copyright is violated for an image that was processed with pirated software.
As I said, the Creative Cloud makes sense for me, and I have been planning on subscribing anyway, but who knows what the future holds. In a perfect world Adobe will come up with some sort of ala carte pricing module where you can select 2 or 3 products of your choice, but as I said, that would be in a perfect world.
I can see Adobe hemorrhaging customers over this stunt .......
In today's economy, I do not see customers accepting this a subscription or outright buying the product. As for me, I use Photoshop Elements. If my only choice is a subscription then it will be BYE BYE Adobe. Too many other nice programs.
I hate this approach, I always buy the boxed versions!
BigGWells wrote:
This was written by a good friend of mine, a pro photographer. Thought I would share. As much as I myself can't say I am happy, I can understand. My guess, Adobe will make some concessions down the road, lets hope that is a short road.
The photographic world is up in arms right now because Adobe announced that they are ending the Creative Suite line of products and moving everything, with a few exceptions, to the Creative Cloud. This means that you will no longer be able to buy programs like Photoshop, but will have to subscribe to the software. I have seen tons of tweets, G+ posts and Facebook updates about people talking about alternatives to Photoshop and how the idea of subscribing to software doesnt sit well with them. Truth be told, I was not such a huge fan of the model when it was first introduced some time ago, but the more I think about it the more it seems to make sense to me.
I currently use Lightroom for 100% of the images I create. For my conventional photography I use Photoshop about 10% of the time, but for my IR work I use Photoshop 100% of the time. I also use an older version of Premier Elements for some of my time lapse videos. When you factor in the cost of upgrading Lightroom and Photoshop when new versions come out, the Creative Cloud might not make much sense, but when you factor in the ability to now use Premier Pro, that changes the game for me. I think it would for a lot of people, but I sort of question if it is actually a matter of cost that has a lot of photographers upset about all of this?
It is probably no secret, but Photoshop is one of the most pirated pieces of software out there. One of the reasons for this is that Adobe charges, IMO, way to much for it. It seems to me that one of the reasons for Adobe to make this bold of a move is to actually crack down on the number of illegal copies of Photoshop, and other Creative Suite products that are floating around out there, and if that is indeed the reason, it is hard for me to fault them for that. I have always found it very ironic that certain photographers will get upset if one of their copyright is violated for an image that was processed with pirated software.
As I said, the Creative Cloud makes sense for me, and I have been planning on subscribing anyway, but who knows what the future holds. In a perfect world Adobe will come up with some sort of ala carte pricing module where you can select 2 or 3 products of your choice, but as I said, that would be in a perfect world.
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I agree. If one wants to get technical, you never really own the software, even if you have physical disks. Most software that requires an activation is still owned by the manufacturer. You are paying for a license to use the software. The manufacturer can do what they want at any point in time to the software, including discontinuing it. However, the major difference is that the software will still work on your computer even if you can't get updates or updates to the software.
Crwiwy wrote:
Adobe - especially with Photoshop - always gives me the impression that they are thinking of $$$$$$$$$$$
Actually, I think this is a good deal for someone who needs multiple Creative Suite products such as Photoshop, Illustrator, the page layout program, or web production.
For those of us needing only Photoshop is is certainly a price increase. I am looking for alternatives, and if I find a suitable product, I will completely abandon Adobe.
I might suggest that there are a hell of a lot more hobbyist photographers using photoshop than there are professionals. I wonder what Adobe's response would be if they lost half of their user base.
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