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Just more stats on guns
May 7, 2013 16:59:33 #
Gun homicides have dropped steeply in the United States since their peak in 1993, a pair of reports released Tuesday showed, adding fuel to Congress' battle over whether to tighten restrictions on firearms.
A study released Tuesday by the government's Bureau of Justice Statistics found that gun-related homicides dropped from 18,253 in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011. That's a 39 percent reduction.
Another report by the private Pew Research Center found a similar decline by looking at the rate of gun homicides, which compares the number of killings to the size of the country's population. It found that the number of gun homicides per 100,000 people fell from 7 percent in 1993 to 3.6 percent in 2010, a drop of 49 percent.
Both reports also found the rate of nonfatal crimes involving guns was also down by around 70 percent over that period.
The trend in firearm-related homicides is part of a broad nationwide decline in violent crime over the past two decades, including incidents not involving firearms.
The Justice study also said that in 2011, about 70 percent of all homicides were committed with a firearm, mainly a handgun.
The data was released three weeks after the Senate rejected an effort by gun control supporters to broaden the requirement for federal background checks for more firearms purchases. Senate Democratic leaders have pledged to hold that vote again, and gun control advocates have been raising public pressure on senators who voted "no" in hopes they will change their minds.
Gun rights advocates have argued that people are safer when they are allowed to own and carry guns. Those supporting gun control say that with more background checks, gun violence would drop because more criminals and mentally unstable people would be prevented from getting weapons.
A study released Tuesday by the government's Bureau of Justice Statistics found that gun-related homicides dropped from 18,253 in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011. That's a 39 percent reduction.
Another report by the private Pew Research Center found a similar decline by looking at the rate of gun homicides, which compares the number of killings to the size of the country's population. It found that the number of gun homicides per 100,000 people fell from 7 percent in 1993 to 3.6 percent in 2010, a drop of 49 percent.
Both reports also found the rate of nonfatal crimes involving guns was also down by around 70 percent over that period.
The trend in firearm-related homicides is part of a broad nationwide decline in violent crime over the past two decades, including incidents not involving firearms.
The Justice study also said that in 2011, about 70 percent of all homicides were committed with a firearm, mainly a handgun.
The data was released three weeks after the Senate rejected an effort by gun control supporters to broaden the requirement for federal background checks for more firearms purchases. Senate Democratic leaders have pledged to hold that vote again, and gun control advocates have been raising public pressure on senators who voted "no" in hopes they will change their minds.
Gun rights advocates have argued that people are safer when they are allowed to own and carry guns. Those supporting gun control say that with more background checks, gun violence would drop because more criminals and mentally unstable people would be prevented from getting weapons.
May 7, 2013 17:09:27 #
I'm a Vietnam veteran and have guns.
I am for Background Checks to the max.
I have no fear of doing one.
Sarge69
I am for Background Checks to the max.
I have no fear of doing one.
Sarge69
May 7, 2013 17:13:43 #
sarge69 wrote:
I'm a Vietnam veteran and have guns.
I am for Background Checks to the max.
I have no fear of doing one.
Sarge69
I am for Background Checks to the max.
I have no fear of doing one.
Sarge69
I feel the same way Sarge. :thumbup:
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May 7, 2013 18:15:34 #
May 7, 2013 18:29:54 #
pounder35 wrote:
I feel the same way Sarge. :thumbup:
I will also join this group!
May 7, 2013 18:31:04 #
ole sarg wrote:
Sarge at last we agree on something.
Damn, that must be a first. Maybe there's hope for you after all. :lol:
May 7, 2013 22:19:00 #
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May 8, 2013 07:36:05 #
I've been a gun owner for 52 years and agree with back ground checks. Just don't try to take my guns away from me.
May 8, 2013 08:19:14 #
sarge69 wrote:
I'm a Vietnam veteran and have guns.
I am for Background Checks to the max.
I have no fear of doing one.
Sarge69
I am for Background Checks to the max.
I have no fear of doing one.
Sarge69
the key to your statement is "to the max". the checks now do not pick up the mentally unstable...no one still has figured out how do that" I have no problem with checks that will pick up the nuts...what I do have a problem with is registration
May 8, 2013 09:10:09 #
wilpharm wrote:
the key to your statement is "to the max". the checks now do not pick up the mentally unstable...no one still has figured out how do that" I have no problem with checks that will pick up the nuts...what I do have a problem with is registration
You are correct. My State has done background checks for over 20 years. The PC crowd will not let them check for the things that really indicate a potential problem like mental instability. Of course, whether or not some one is mentaly unstable is a subjective call. How many on UHH could prove they are completely sane according to someone elses measure of sanity?
May 8, 2013 11:53:08 #
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May 8, 2013 12:00:10 #
ole sarg wrote:
ted45 then change the laws in your state.
I have not idea what you are talking about.
May 8, 2013 13:20:41 #
From www.washingtonpost.com In 2010 nearly 80,000 Americans were denied guns after providing false information about their criminal histories during their background check. Technically, it's a felony to lie during this process. Yet only 44 would-be buyers were ever charged with a crime, according to the New York Times.
Another statistic - 1.5 million were rejected over a 15 year period. They keep trying don't they.
For those who are against more gun laws, like me, this is why. It is not to prevent criminals from buying - it is for locating responsible legal gun owners. Those who beat their guns into plowshares will plow for those who don't. Dave
Another statistic - 1.5 million were rejected over a 15 year period. They keep trying don't they.
For those who are against more gun laws, like me, this is why. It is not to prevent criminals from buying - it is for locating responsible legal gun owners. Those who beat their guns into plowshares will plow for those who don't. Dave
May 8, 2013 13:37:02 #
ted45 wrote:
You are correct. My State has done background checks for over 20 years. The PC crowd will not let them check for the things that really indicate a potential problem like mental instability. Of course, whether or not some one is mentaly unstable is a subjective call. How many on UHH could prove they are completely sane according to someone elses measure of sanity?
I'm sure many here on UHH question my sanity. :roll: :lol: :thumbup: But I don't care. I'll stay "Comfortably Numb." (Pink Floyd) :thumbup:
May 8, 2013 13:39:21 #
pounder35 wrote:
I'm sure many here on UHH question my sanity. :roll: :lol: :thumbup: But I don't care. I'll stay "Comfortably Numb." (Pink Floyd) :thumbup:
Sometimes I question my own sanity so I'm right there with you. :roll:
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