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May 5, 2013 22:02:00   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
Just getting into printing my own photos. I have an iMac computer and a Canon PIXMA Pro 100 printer. The first pictures (using canon paper) were dark and too yellow. I know I am suppose to calibrate my monitor but then was told that iMacs cannot be calibrated other than with there own internal software. So, I'm not sure what to do or where to go. I searched through other posts, but couldn't find any helpful hints. How do I tune my printer and my monitor? Do I make a colder, darker version of the image just for printing? Is it better to use TIFF or JPEG for printing. Thanks for your help. Jack

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May 5, 2013 22:18:48   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Whoever told you IMacs cannot be calibrated is dead wrong. True they lack some of the more sophisticated controls of, say, the Eizo, but they can be calibrated. I have been a Mac and iMac user for years. The NEW iMac is calibrated at the factory and comes ready to use. You DO have to turn the brightness down, however as they come with the brightness way to high.

TIFF or JPEG for printing does not make a big difference as long as the JPEG was converted to JPEG as the last step prior to printing.

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May 5, 2013 22:51:11   #
SX2002 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
I copy the pic and brighten or darken it before I print.

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May 5, 2013 23:05:03   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
Thanks Captain, But I am a little puzzled. I have the brightness at about 2/3's brightness and make my copy at that level. The printed image is quite dark. Do I keep turning the brightness down and making a new copy or is this about turning down the brightness in my image editor (Aperture 3). I'm just not sure what to do. Thanks for your patience. Jack

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May 5, 2013 23:05:49   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
Thanks Captain, But I am a little puzzled. I have the brightness at about 2/3's brightness and make my copy at that level. The printed image is quite dark. Do I keep turning the brightness down and making a new copy or is this about turning down the brightness in my image editor (Aperture 3). I'm just not sure what to do. Thanks for your patience. Jack

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May 5, 2013 23:53:08   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
bonjac wrote:
Thanks Captain, But I am a little puzzled. I have the brightness at about 2/3's brightness and make my copy at that level. The printed image is quite dark. Do I keep turning the brightness down and making a new copy or is this about turning down the brightness in my image editor (Aperture 3). I'm just not sure what to do. Thanks for your patience. Jack


My brightness is only three squares up from the lowest. You are way too bright. This is true of ANY monitor - you need to work in a dim room so you do not need a bright monitor.

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May 6, 2013 06:49:50   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
First what program are you using to print? That will help use help you to get the best print

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May 6, 2013 07:10:23   #
timwarduk Loc: Kislingbury, Northants
 
bonjac wrote:
Just getting into printing my own photos. I have an iMac computer and a Canon PIXMA Pro 100 printer. The first pictures (using canon paper) were dark and too yellow. I know I am suppose to calibrate my monitor but then was told that iMacs cannot be calibrated other than with there own internal software. So, I'm not sure what to do or where to go. I searched through other posts, but couldn't find any helpful hints. How do I tune my printer and my monitor? Do I make a colder, darker version of the image just for printing? Is it better to use TIFF or JPEG for printing. Thanks for your help. Jack
Just getting into printing my own photos. I have ... (show quote)


I have the same printer. Not only did I have to calibrate the Monitor, but I also had to calibrate the Printer. There are Printer controls to allow you to do this, and the Printer will print a Test sheet showing the image at a series of different settings. Once you have calibrated your Monitor, then choose the Test image settings that most match your monitor. It is very much trial and error even if you have selected the right ICC Profile for the paper. Hope this helps.

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May 6, 2013 11:05:20   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Are you letting the printer control the color or are you setting your software so that it handles the color? Color space is very important and if you don't know what it is then you may be inadvertently using the wrong one for your printer and paper.

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May 6, 2013 13:22:36   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
mborn wrote:
First what program are you using to print? That will help use help you to get the best print


I am using Aperture 3 to print from.

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May 6, 2013 13:27:49   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
bonjac wrote:
I am using Aperture 3 to print from.


Sorry I do not Know Aperture so I cannot help

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May 6, 2013 13:28:17   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
timwarduk wrote:
I have the same printer. Not only did I have to calibrate the Monitor, but I also had to calibrate the Printer. There are Printer controls to allow you to do this, and the Printer will print a Test sheet showing the image at a series of different settings. Once you have calibrated your Monitor, then choose the Test image settings that most match your monitor. It is very much trial and error even if you have selected the right ICC Profile for the paper. Hope this helps.


Thanks much. I was careful to ensure I had the right ICC. I'm not sure I follow you with the test sheet. I have been called away on a personal matter until tomorrow evening. That will give me some time to think about this and pick up some more paper. If I have more questions about this, may I contact you? Thanks Jack

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May 6, 2013 13:30:27   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
mborn wrote:
Sorry I do not Know Aperture so I cannot help


Aperture 3 is Apple's photo management/editing program which is very similar to Adobe's Lightroom. Should I be using a dedicated printing program? Regards Jack

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May 6, 2013 13:32:48   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Are you letting the printer control the color or are you setting your software so that it handles the color? Color space is very important and if you don't know what it is then you may be inadvertently using the wrong one for your printer and paper.


Yes. I'm familiar with color space. I'm using Adobe RGB in Aperture 3. (I will check that again). Thanks Jack

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May 6, 2013 13:42:15   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
bonjac wrote:
Aperture 3 is Apple's photo management/editing program which is very similar to Adobe's Lightroom. Should I be using a dedicated printing program? Regards Jack


I have not ever worked with Aperture, Just PS and LR so I do not know the programs nuances

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