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May 6, 2013 10:40:01   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Yup !!
blacks2 wrote:
It is hard to see on the image, that's why I asked if it is red, otherwise black and red dials are exactly the same.

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May 6, 2013 13:17:29   #
Mike Little Loc: Ozark, Missouri
 
If you are interested contact me at Flyfishermale@yahoo.com I would be interested in buying if price is right.

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May 6, 2013 16:13:53   #
miamithom Loc: Cutler Bay, Florida, USA
 
Keep the camera ! ! ! The collectors of the world of Leica's
have driven up the price and to collectors it is worth MUCH MORE than was quoted above. The shutter may or may not be accurate, however do a series of tests and calibrate with your stand alone light meter. I had a III-G and sold it a long time ago when going to art school so I could pay the rent . . . never again will I sell ANY of my film cameras or my darkroom equipment . . . . . I'll move out in the middle of the night first.
Have fun with the camera.

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May 6, 2013 17:11:09   #
blacks2 Loc: SF. Bay area
 
miamithom wrote:
Keep the camera ! ! ! The collectors of the world of Leica's
have driven up the price and to collectors it is worth MUCH MORE than was quoted above. The shutter may or may not be accurate, however do a series of tests and calibrate with your stand alone light meter. I had a III-G and sold it a long time ago when going to art school so I could pay the rent . . . never again will I sell ANY of my film cameras or my darkroom equipment . . . . . I'll move out in the middle of the night first.
Have fun with the camera.
Keep the camera ! ! ! The collectors of the world ... (show quote)


Interesting, the camera is worth much more as quoted? Where did you get your information from? Show me a link.

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May 6, 2013 17:26:51   #
cgchief Loc: Jarrettsville
 
[quote=ebrunner]Years ago my father stored some things in my attic because he was living in his RV and did not have room to store things. The other day I was up in the attic and came across an old friend. This is my father's leica (I think from the 50's) I have no idea what model it is. It was the camera I learned how to shoot with when I was in junior high and high school. The lens is an f/2.0 mm. I was wondering if any of you know anything about these cameras. The lens slides in and out to make it compact. I think I'll put a roll of film in it this week and see if it still works. It's German, what am I talking about...of course it still works.[/qu
It is a LEICA IIIf "black dial", the numbers 0 to 20 vary the flash synchronisation.

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May 6, 2013 17:42:42   #
cgchief Loc: Jarrettsville
 
blacks2 wrote:
It is hard to see on the image, that's why I asked if it is red, otherwise black and red dials are exactly the same.

The IIIf "red dial" had different series of shutter speeds and different sync, otherwise the same. The IIIg had a better view finder and, because of a short production run,
more desired. I have a IIIf "red dial" that I put the shelf when I bought a far better camera, the PENTAX Spotmatic.

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May 6, 2013 21:48:56   #
BillBrennan Loc: Tucson, Az.
 
I have the exact same camera, needed a focus beam splitter and a "tune up" to the tune of $375.00
Have to get some film and try it out.
Bill

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May 6, 2013 21:50:20   #
BillBrennan Loc: Tucson, Az.
 
http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/screw-mount/iiif.htm#repairs
This may help.
Bill

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May 6, 2013 22:35:50   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
blacks2 wrote:
I am a very familiar with Leicas. You have a Leica IIIf and by the looks of the numbers around the speed dial it's a red dial( Are they red?) if so it is a IIIf red dial, worth more than the black dial. Now, you don't show the f 2 lens, is it a Summitar or a Summicron? If it is a Summicron the lens is worth more as the cameras body, in case you sell it never sell it as a unit, sell separate. I don't know of the condition but a nice body should bring around $350. Summicron lens 500-600, Summitar 250.
Hope that helps.
I am a very familiar with Leicas. You have a Leica... (show quote)


Thanks Blacks2. The body is a IIIf red dial. The lens is the summitar f=5cm. Both the lens and the body are in very good condition. I appreciate the information about the value, but neither lens nor body are for sale. The fact that it was the camera I learned how to shoot on when I was in high school makes it more valuable to me than the money I could possibly get for it. Hell, I can always get more money, but I cannot get this camera again.

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May 6, 2013 22:41:59   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Thanks Bill. The site is very useful. I appreciate it.

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May 6, 2013 22:44:26   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
It is a red dial model, Chief. Thanks for your input.

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May 6, 2013 23:20:58   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Looks like a Black Dial to me as the shutter speeds are the same as the older IIIC's...The Red Dial models used different speeds other than those shown on your images...See here for Red Dial shutter speed dial speeds...You will have to click on the "large image attachment" to view the image...Your serial # indicates a 51/52 year of production. "n 1950 Leitz introduced what was to become the highest production screw mount Leica, the IIIF. It was essentially a IIIC with the addition of flash synchronization. Underneath the shutter speed is a ring for flash delay setting for flash bulbs. In 1952, at serial number 611000 the shutter speed progression was changed from 1/30, 1/40, 1/60 to 1/25, 1/50, 175. Earlier cameras are referred to as "Black Dial" or simply "BD" cameras, later ones are " Red Dial" or "RD" cameras."

http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/00FvCl

ebrunner wrote:
It is a red dial model, Chief. Thanks for your input.

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May 6, 2013 23:25:59   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Some additional info on the IIIf

http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/pp/leica/sm/iiif.htm

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May 7, 2013 05:59:32   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Screamin Scott, I look at the links you kindly provided and it appears I was looking at the wrong dial to determine red/black. On my camera, the numbers under the shutter speed dial are, indeed, black and that would indicate black dial. There is a window on the film advance knob that has some red ASA numbers; but these don't seem to be the red dial that I thought was the issue. Additionally, my camera has no self timer which would indicate a manufacture date before 1954. However, it does have a shutter speed of 1/1000 which would indicate a manufacture date after 1954. The issue is getting more and more clouded. This has been a lot of fun, though. I think I am going to call Tamarkin in Chicago and see what they can add to the stew.

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May 7, 2013 08:05:06   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
My IIIc has a 1/1000 shutter speed as well & it is a 1950 model...

ebrunner wrote:
Screamin Scott, I look at the links you kindly provided and it appears I was looking at the wrong dial to determine red/black. On my camera, the numbers under the shutter speed dial are, indeed, black and that would indicate black dial. There is a window on the film advance knob that has some red ASA numbers; but these don't seem to be the red dial that I thought was the issue. Additionally, my camera has no self timer which would indicate a manufacture date before 1954. However, it does have a shutter speed of 1/1000 which would indicate a manufacture date after 1954. The issue is getting more and more clouded. This has been a lot of fun, though. I think I am going to call Tamarkin in Chicago and see what they can add to the stew.
Screamin Scott, I look at the links you kindly pro... (show quote)

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