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Apr 28, 2013 10:26:10   #
steady27 Loc: Boston, MA
 
The files are so large(with a large bit size) that I've hit a brick wall, getting error msg's with CS6. I find now I cannot enlarge the photo size to fill my computer screen.
I think I need to lower the "bit" size, but do not know how.
Please advise how to remedy. Many thanks

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Apr 29, 2013 06:07:38   #
DavidNikonD800UK
 
steady27 wrote:
The files are so large(with a large bit size) that I've hit a brick wall, getting error msg's with CS6. I find now I cannot enlarge the photo size to fill my computer screen.
I think I need to lower the "bit" size, but do not know how.
Please advise how to remedy. Many thanks



Hi I think your computer dont have enough memory, D800 file you need around 24 RAM, also processor should be something faster.

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Apr 29, 2013 08:10:23   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
steady27 wrote:
The files are so large(with a large bit size) that I've hit a brick wall, getting error msg's with CS6. I find now I cannot enlarge the photo size to fill my computer screen.
I think I need to lower the "bit" size, but do not know how.
Please advise how to remedy. Many thanks


Please tell us what your computer system consists of. CPU, RAM amount, video card, HDD size and number or drives. In the mean time, you can always delete unwanted files and junk programs from your HDD and close all background programs so they do not steal RAM when you PP.
Yes, the RAW files from a D800 are huge and then when you transfer them to your computer and run a PP program, there are conversion and temp working files generated that take up even more HDD space, but these can be deleted after processing is completed and the final file is saved. If you really run into a pinch, you can always start taking your photos in JPEG which are significantly smaller. Everyone owning a D800 has found they need to increase their RAM to at least 8 Gig and purchase added internal HDDs or large USB external drives for files storage.

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Apr 29, 2013 08:37:29   #
DavidNikonD800UK
 
singleviking wrote:
Please tell us what your computer system consists of. CPU, RAM amount, video card, HDD size and number or drives. In the mean time, you can always delete unwanted files and junk programs from your HDD and close all background programs so they do not steal RAM when you PP.
Yes, the RAW files from a D800 are huge and then when you transfer them to your computer and run a PP program, there are conversion and temp working files generated that take up even more HDD space, but these can be deleted after processing is completed and the final file is saved. If you really run into a pinch, you can always start taking your photos in JPEG which are significantly smaller. Everyone owning a D800 has found they need to increase their RAM to at least 8 Gig and purchase added internal HDDs or large USB external drives for files storage.
Please tell us what your computer system consists ... (show quote)


Agreed, 8RAM is ok but mostly said 12 RAM or 24 RAM a least 1600 chip is much better to work with D800 and other platforms.

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Apr 29, 2013 10:45:01   #
kayautho Loc: Boynton Beach, FL
 
steady27 wrote:
The files are so large(with a large bit size) that I've hit a brick wall, getting error msg's with CS6. I find now I cannot enlarge the photo size to fill my computer screen.
I think I need to lower the "bit" size, but do not know how.
Please advise how to remedy. Many thanks


To answer your original question regarding how to change bit size - If you took the photo in raw, and you're in ACR (Adobe Camera Raw), you'll see a typed line in blue at the bottom of the window. Click on it and you can adjust the bit size, among other things.
If you're in photoshop itself, go to the tabs on top and click on image>mode>8bit.
I'm not sure how good this will be in reducing memory size. The other responses are probably more effective.

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Apr 29, 2013 11:23:40   #
beek Loc: Florida
 
steady27 wrote:
The files are so large(with a large bit size) that I've hit a brick wall, getting error msg's with CS6. I find now I cannot enlarge the photo size to fill my computer screen.
I think I need to lower the "bit" size, but do not know how.
Please advise how to remedy. Many thanks


Memory is so inexpensive these days you should always max out what the mobo/os can handle just for headroom

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Apr 29, 2013 11:38:51   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
kayautho wrote:
To answer your original question regarding how to change bit size - If you took the photo in raw, and you're in ACR (Adobe Camera Raw), you'll see a typed line in blue at the bottom of the window. Click on it and you can adjust the bit size, among other things.
If you're in photoshop itself, go to the tabs on top and click on image>mode>8bit.
I'm not sure how good this will be in reducing memory size. The other responses are probably more effective.


This approach does reduce the size of temp working files but not the original RAW files and EXIF data.
The "1600" mentioned by another contributor here is the memory speed and not the CPU speed. The actual memory type and speed needed is actually determined by your BIOS and MOBO. Check with your MFGr for max memory speed acceptable for your particular computer or you could be paying for memory modules with speeds that can't be achieved with your MOBO.
Welcome to the world of constant upgrades, improved PP programs, and the wish to always upgrade to the next big thing in photography. These days, the upgrades not only involve your PP programs, plugins, camera and lenses but also your computer system as well as monitor and printer.

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Apr 29, 2013 11:41:34   #
beek Loc: Florida
 
Agree, I wonder what the error message is?

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Apr 29, 2013 11:51:34   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
steady27 wrote:
The files are so large(with a large bit size) that I've hit a brick wall, getting error msg's with CS6. I find now I cannot enlarge the photo size to fill my computer screen.
I think I need to lower the "bit" size, but do not know how.
Please advise how to remedy. Many thanks


The minimum hardware requirements for CS6 from Adobe are a joke! Obviously, they don't care how unpleasant your experience is with this software. Personally, I would not even install this unless I had a multi-core processor, a discrete graphics card with 1GB of VRAM (OpenGL compatible) and 8GB of RAM.

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Apr 29, 2013 12:00:26   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
mdorn wrote:
The minimum hardware requirements for CS6 from Adobe are a joke! Obviously, they don't care how unpleasant your experience is with this software. Personally, I would not even install this unless I had a multi-core processor, a discrete graphics card with 1GB of VRAM (OpenGL compatible) and 8GB of RAM.


You forgot the need for a 64 bit OS or your RAM memory is limited by the 32 bit OS and any more than 4 Gig just won't be recognized.

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Apr 29, 2013 12:10:09   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
singleviking wrote:
You forgot the need for a 64 bit OS or your RAM memory is limited by the 32 bit OS and any more just won't be recognized.


I forgot a few things I would include in my system to install this software... The complete hardware requirements are available on Adobe's website. My intent was not to include a comprehensive list...

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Apr 29, 2013 12:18:51   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
mdorn wrote:
I forgot a few things I would include in my system to install this software... The complete hardware requirements are available on Adobe's website.


Adobe publishes minimum requirements and any increase in RAM, CPU type and speed and separate video VRAM and GPU will vastly improve the processing speeds for most PP programs. I know we're dealing with hobbyists or newbies to digital photography so I try to keep the answers simple and as cheap as possible.
Hey, I trouble shot the D800 download problem accurately. That should give my responses a leg up on the amateur respondents.

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Apr 29, 2013 14:40:55   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
steady27 wrote:
The files are so large(with a large bit size) that I've hit a brick wall, getting error msg's with CS6. I find now I cannot enlarge the photo size to fill my computer screen.
I think I need to lower the "bit" size, but do not know how.
Please advise how to remedy. Many thanks


Don't lower the quality of your image. Raise the quality of your computer to work with large files. I don't know what type of computer you have but you may just need to increase the amount of ram you have so that you can work on these files. Also, you can increase the efficiency of CS in your preferences. All this does is increase the space on your hard drive for what is called 'scratch memory'. It's slower than adding more ram but should remedy your problem.

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Apr 29, 2013 14:59:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
steady27 wrote:
The files are so large(with a large bit size) that I've hit a brick wall, getting error msg's with CS6. I find now I cannot enlarge the photo size to fill my computer screen.
I think I need to lower the "bit" size, but do not know how.
Please advise how to remedy. Many thanks

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Apr 29, 2013 16:01:26   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Yeah, every time you upgrade one thing, you kinda have to figure you have to upgrade everything. You bought a Lamborghini and are finding the corner garage may not be able to work on it, and even just changing oil or buying tires is an investment...

Well... not that bad.. but no doubt you have found you really need top of the line lenses & filters, then found you needed to upgrade to CS6 just to open the resulting RAW (NEF) images. Now you need a current platform to work effectively with them...

Good news is you Lenses are practically forever, Your camera will still be kicking out top-of-the-line pics 10 years from now, and your new computer will run all the latest software for some time to come- You are probably already running into issues with other software if it is that slow.

Nothing winning the lottery wouldn't fix!

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