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Dec 11, 2011 22:25:27   #
krashzmom Loc: Columbia, SC
 
nyweb2001 wrote:
I'm a little slow too and not good at reading manuals ! I had my Canon for a year before I finally started shooting in RAW....for me it works ! Don't know if piknik will convert....do you have a camera that came with software CD's ?


Yes, I haven't installed it yet (actually have it on my tonight to do list). I have a Canon Rebel t3i and also got a Sony Cybershot to replace my other point and shoot. I just installed that CD but then got distracted reading about this. I haven't had the rebel but about 2 months and haven't been serious about doing more than shooting pictures for about 4 months, so....it's a little confusing. :cry: :)

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Dec 11, 2011 22:30:54   #
nyweb2001
 
You have a number of programs on those discs that will do anything you need ! They just take time to go through and sort out......but the programs are easy to learn....you won't spend all your time with a steep learning curve ! There's a nice program on those discs....ZoomBrowser EX...it will convert the RAW files and let you make adjustments ! Not as involved as most photo programs and very easy to learn !

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Dec 11, 2011 22:38:36   #
JEB53 Loc: Des Moines IA.
 
Wow that makes it more clearer than mud! I like the explanation, It painted a good visual in my mind ( MORE RAW Photos) Thanks!

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Dec 12, 2011 00:17:03   #
krashzmom Loc: Columbia, SC
 
nyweb2001 wrote:
You have a number of programs on those discs that will do anything you need ! They just take time to go through and sort out......but the programs are easy to learn....you won't spend all your time with a steep learning curve ! There's a nice program on those discs....ZoomBrowser EX...it will convert the RAW files and let you make adjustments ! Not as involved as most photo programs and very easy to learn !


Well, if it's easier than paintshop or photoshop, I'm all for it. Those 2 are driving me nuts. Thanks for the tips. Any others appreciated. Oh, do you shoot mostly RAW?

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Dec 12, 2011 00:20:11   #
nyweb2001
 
Raw is all I shoot in now ! I like tweaking my shots....most shots need SOMETHING...even if it's just a little sharpening ! If a shot doesn't need too much, I won't bother starting Elements, I'll just use the Zoom Browser EX I told you about ! Fast and easy !

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Dec 12, 2011 01:28:17   #
krashzmom Loc: Columbia, SC
 
nyweb2001 wrote:
Raw is all I shoot in now ! I like tweaking my shots....most shots need SOMETHING...even if it's just a little sharpening ! If a shot doesn't need too much, I won't bother starting Elements, I'll just use the Zoom Browser EX I told you about ! Fast and easy !


Thanks. I waited too late to install it tonight but will tomorrow. What canon do you have?

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Dec 12, 2011 01:40:08   #
tkhphotography Loc: Gresham, Or, not Seattle
 
markfay wrote:
the biggest advantage of shooting raw is that you can rescue a poorly exposed photo. A raw image can be pull 3 stops in either direction. Adobe lightroom is the programe to use for RAW, do all your basic adjustments quickly and save lots of time.


er...actually more than that, acr does 4.

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Dec 12, 2011 06:56:21   #
yooperfalls
 
I would agree. And I think it would also be wise back up a little.
The electronics industry likes to boost from time to time that a
certain device can display over a million colors. What is lacking
with these claims is that this can not be done all at one time. Even if this were possible there are not any humans who could even come close to distinguishing between that many colors. Software is then used to arrange color into palettes that can be called upon to meet certain needs like landscape, portraits, etcÂ…
So when you click the shutter on your camera, you have made
a selection for a specific palette of color and/or to postpone your
selection and process a raw file in a computer. This has nothing to do with right and wrong. Jpeg is often a good choice, especially with well designed software. Raw is also a good choice, especially when you want to use the processing power of your computer. I shoot jpeg + raw because I'm 80 and disabled. I shoot a lot of bad photos and raw can really help.

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Dec 12, 2011 09:33:32   #
nyweb2001
 
krashzmom wrote:
nyweb2001 wrote:
Raw is all I shoot in now ! I like tweaking my shots....most shots need SOMETHING...even if it's just a little sharpening ! If a shot doesn't need too much, I won't bother starting Elements, I'll just use the Zoom Browser EX I told you about ! Fast and easy !


Thanks. I waited too late to install it tonight but will tomorrow. What canon do you have?


I have the Rebel XS I bought 2 years ago ! Not top of the line, but it fits the bill for me !

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Dec 12, 2011 10:20:54   #
Sue-Jim Loc: Missouri
 
There's some psychology of human perception in the quest for a "perfect" image. What we "see" is processed in our internal system before we "perceive" it; therefore each person's experience of things outside ourselves is unique. A RAW image in a quality camera is the data recorded that is received through a quality lens. Part of our internal filter includes our past experience and current emotions. The camera doesn't have these - so when we look at the RAW image it doesn't look like what we perceived when being inspired to take a photo. Processing with computer programs lets us adjust the image to recapture that memory (ah - there's another factor - our memories have embellished that moment-in-time in our minds). This allows us the best chance to share our experience, our vision, with others (allowing for the internal filters through which they view our image). With jpg & automatic settings of the camera (landscape, portrait, backlit, etc.) you might say we are appointing the camera to view the scene through the filter of "experience" of the subject.
No, I'm not an expert at working with RAW images - but I majored in psychology (some post-grad work in that) with a minor in art - & the principles I present here are covered in those studies plus a long lifetime of thinking about that subject. Hope this helps some to figure out when/why to choose RAW or jpg.

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Dec 12, 2011 10:35:52   #
Sue-Jim Loc: Missouri
 
Re what yooperfalls said about the electronics industry's boast of a million colors...Quite true that we can't distinguish that many variations (I was amazed at how many variations of yellow bumblebees can distinguish, needed to detect preferred food sources). We "clump" data so we can perceive patterns - of color & contrast (that's what we needed for survival - to detect an orange & black tiger against green leaves & stems...with less color perception, that would be great camouflage).
That's why Ansel Adams' photographs appealed to the general public -- he pushed his available materials & equipment to go beyond reality, but keep it "feeling real" (exposed to preserve as much detail as the camera/film could record, then pushed it in the darkroom to express HIS vision, which was surreal - but many people experienced it as what they remembered or what they would want to see) - just think how much fun he would have with RAW & a program like Photoshop!

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Dec 12, 2011 10:51:32   #
jklinc
 
I've been a Commercial Advertising Photographer for 46 years.
With film, I used to shoot A and B rolls, especially on national accounts..

With Digital, I now shoot most of my assignments in RAW. Its not that I'm sloppy. I am always very careful with every exposure. On many assignments I even check images on my laptop and even download my images as a safety measure before leaving the assignment. .

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Dec 12, 2011 10:53:12   #
nyweb2001
 
I'm just getting back into film....what are A and B rolls ?

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Dec 12, 2011 11:10:28   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
Same images shot on two different rolls. One would be developed and review to see if adjustments had to be made in the development times.

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Dec 12, 2011 11:14:12   #
nyweb2001
 
Oh !! I'm not there yet !!!

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