Small Wedding
Sep 18, 2011 19:33:03 #
areej wrote:
Hi everyone, br I am new here and I love taking pi... (show quote)
No for all the reasons you mentioned and one more: If you screw it up, you will never forgive yourself and maybe never will your friend. But what do I know, right?
Sep 18, 2011 19:57:07 #
Sep 18, 2011 19:59:57 #
Can anyone suggest a good flash bracket and a cord?
I went to Amazon and found out that there are too many to choose from.
I went to Amazon and found out that there are too many to choose from.
Sep 18, 2011 20:34:38 #
Go for it, this is the start of a new career. Keep asking questions, we are here to help and what a support group you have on Ugly Hedgehog :-D
Sep 18, 2011 20:40:02 #
Be aware that cameras have pre flash and red-eye flash. Brackets are easy and most any older flash will work if you use a switchable multi flash SYK-5 with time delay
http://www.camerachina.com/productxx.asp?id=1482
the concept is explained here
http://dpanswers.com/content/optical_flash.php
this site explains the details and has direct links to ebay units. Hay, low cost and they work.
These delayed flash remote flash conversion units are less than 15$us,,, not expensive. this allows you to use any old/new/borrowed/blue flash for the wedding.
Find the product on the camera-china site and then go to Ebay and order. I have had excellent luck ordering from china. Delivery is perhaps 2 weeks.
http://www.camerachina.com/productxx.asp?id=1482
the concept is explained here
http://dpanswers.com/content/optical_flash.php
this site explains the details and has direct links to ebay units. Hay, low cost and they work.
These delayed flash remote flash conversion units are less than 15$us,,, not expensive. this allows you to use any old/new/borrowed/blue flash for the wedding.
Find the product on the camera-china site and then go to Ebay and order. I have had excellent luck ordering from china. Delivery is perhaps 2 weeks.
Sep 18, 2011 20:50:05 #
Go to camera shops and see what will work with your camera. You are about to enter the field of professional photography, pro equipment is expensive but well worth it. Don't buy cheap stuff and try to modify it (been there done that- it will break down or not function right before the night is over). Pro equipment will last a long time. Before people look at your images, they will be looking at you, the photographer, you and your equipment need to function professionally.
Sep 18, 2011 20:58:05 #
Thank you that means a lot to me and I am glad I joind this group
robertperry wrote:
Go for it, this is the start of a new career. Keep asking questions, we are here to help and what a support group you have on Ugly Hedgehog :-D
Sep 18, 2011 21:00:37 #
robertperry wrote:
Go to camera shops and see what will work with your camera. You are about to enter the field of professional photography, pro equipment is expensive but well worth it. Don't buy cheap stuff and try to modify it (been there done that- it will break down or not function right before the night is over). Pro equipment will last a long time. Before people look at your images, they will be looking at you, the photographer, you and your equipment need to function professionally.
Good Idea!!
Sep 18, 2011 21:04:17 #
areej wrote:
quote=robertperry Go to camera shops and see what... (show quote)
My worst ever disaster was shooting a wedding with a new flash unit that failed to fired properly and I didn't get ANY pictures. It was horrible. Really awful. I didn't take any pictures at all for years. Did I mention they were my best friends? I was actually grateful when they got divorced. At least they no longer cared about the wedding pictures they didn't have.
Sep 18, 2011 21:18:26 #
chapjohn wrote:
I am excited that I am not the only one who takes pictures of Dandilions in seed. I have no advice on wedding pictures, except to ask the person officiating about flash photography during the ceremony. They may not like the distraction that flash can cause. If the person officiating gets flash in the eyes he/she may not be able to see very well. Remember the wedding is not about the photographer.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. LOL :)
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Sep 18, 2011 21:20:15 #
Scout the location, talk to the bride, mother of the bride and mother of the groom. Get what they want in the way of photos. Go in with Confidence, take lots of pictures and you may luck out and get that perfect picture. Also talk to the church and hall people to take practice pictures of the area, with and without external flash. Do your best and that is what they get.
Sep 18, 2011 21:32:39 #
bobmielke wrote:
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. LOL :)
chapjohn wrote:
I am excited that I am not the only one who takes pictures of Dandilions in seed. I have no advice on wedding pictures, except to ask the person officiating about flash photography during the ceremony. They may not like the distraction that flash can cause. If the person officiating gets flash in the eyes he/she may not be able to see very well. Remember the wedding is not about the photographer.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. LOL :)
No Problem!!
I love Dandilions too
Sep 18, 2011 21:33:51 #
dasloaf wrote:
Scout the location, talk to the bride, mother of the bride and mother of the groom. Get what they want in the way of photos. Go in with Confidence, take lots of pictures and you may luck out and get that perfect picture. Also talk to the church and hall people to take practice pictures of the area, with and without external flash. Do your best and that is what they get.
Thank you , That's what I am planing to do :)
Sep 18, 2011 21:38:37 #
fivedawgz wrote:
quote=areej quote=robertperry Go to camera shops... (show quote)
Oooops!! Luckly this friend is not my best friend and
I am planing to take another camera and extra battaries and memory cards.
Sep 18, 2011 22:42:39 #
robertperry: BULL!!! But still one route to take. Have you forgotten the initial question? Shoot small wedding for a friend.
If you have a Nikon Canon flash that is older, and an adapter to your camera fine. Other brands of flash like vivatar work well. Consider that the circuit is basically the same. Yes the flash that is much more expensive and the camera communicate, but it is certainly not necessary to have that complication. With simple math you can find the f stop and pre plan you stage shots. ,,, goal is not to over expose or have harsh light. Not complicated. (unless you have to decide which flash focus setting, power out put to select etc on a very expensive complicated flash unit.
Like in a space shot ,,, redundancy is a safe goal. If equipment fails grab a backup. Most people do not look at auxiliary equipment brand names. Vivatar etc means nothing to most of the public. Camera perhaps, Canon and Nikon names and reputations are great, but other cameras also take great shots and then ask yourself, what are the shots to be used for. Most people adding friends shot use P&S cameras, perhaps even a 3 meg pix. Still good photos for slide show or even an 8x10. Remember people do not use an eye lope to examine for pixes.
When starting out use KISS, keep it simple shooter approach. Also do not invest great bucks for starting out. Recall All: the original question was about shooting a friends small wedding....
If you have the big $ to waste then by all means go to a photo equipment shop and have a 18 y/o novices tell you all about the virtues of the expensive equipment!! If you want want to really know about the equipment check the specifications and also educate your self regarding the circuit designs used for flashes and control units. I did not say design them, rather read about them.
Basically flashes have a charging circuit a trigger voltage and a flash tube. The flashes that communicate with cameras or with signals they pick up. The communicating ones are more complicated in the trigger circuit that regulates the duration of the flash and the power.
Personally I would rather have the versatility and reliability of 3 guide number 40 power than one guide 120. I use 2 PVC black 3/4 flash stands to give 45 degree fill along with my on camera flash and perhaps even a bracket flash off side of camera. All are about guide 40 and not expensive. Example Vivitar Sf-4000 Auto Bounce Zoom Slave Flash with Bracket $25 online ,, try one, read comments.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&q=low+cost+vivitar+flash&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=5793476743257228559&sa=X&ei=GKt2TujXFJG4twewncSYCg&ved=0CIUBEPMCMAQ
Simplicity relates to your ability to control and the reliability of the equipment. When shooting, you do not have time to play with complicated controls. To be a good candid photographer at weddings you will be a Quick Draw McGraw.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Draw_McGraw)
If you have a Nikon Canon flash that is older, and an adapter to your camera fine. Other brands of flash like vivatar work well. Consider that the circuit is basically the same. Yes the flash that is much more expensive and the camera communicate, but it is certainly not necessary to have that complication. With simple math you can find the f stop and pre plan you stage shots. ,,, goal is not to over expose or have harsh light. Not complicated. (unless you have to decide which flash focus setting, power out put to select etc on a very expensive complicated flash unit.
Like in a space shot ,,, redundancy is a safe goal. If equipment fails grab a backup. Most people do not look at auxiliary equipment brand names. Vivatar etc means nothing to most of the public. Camera perhaps, Canon and Nikon names and reputations are great, but other cameras also take great shots and then ask yourself, what are the shots to be used for. Most people adding friends shot use P&S cameras, perhaps even a 3 meg pix. Still good photos for slide show or even an 8x10. Remember people do not use an eye lope to examine for pixes.
When starting out use KISS, keep it simple shooter approach. Also do not invest great bucks for starting out. Recall All: the original question was about shooting a friends small wedding....
If you have the big $ to waste then by all means go to a photo equipment shop and have a 18 y/o novices tell you all about the virtues of the expensive equipment!! If you want want to really know about the equipment check the specifications and also educate your self regarding the circuit designs used for flashes and control units. I did not say design them, rather read about them.
Basically flashes have a charging circuit a trigger voltage and a flash tube. The flashes that communicate with cameras or with signals they pick up. The communicating ones are more complicated in the trigger circuit that regulates the duration of the flash and the power.
Personally I would rather have the versatility and reliability of 3 guide number 40 power than one guide 120. I use 2 PVC black 3/4 flash stands to give 45 degree fill along with my on camera flash and perhaps even a bracket flash off side of camera. All are about guide 40 and not expensive. Example Vivitar Sf-4000 Auto Bounce Zoom Slave Flash with Bracket $25 online ,, try one, read comments.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&q=low+cost+vivitar+flash&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=5793476743257228559&sa=X&ei=GKt2TujXFJG4twewncSYCg&ved=0CIUBEPMCMAQ
Simplicity relates to your ability to control and the reliability of the equipment. When shooting, you do not have time to play with complicated controls. To be a good candid photographer at weddings you will be a Quick Draw McGraw.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Draw_McGraw)
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