Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
Photographing People of Color
Page <<first <prev 3 of 9 next> last>>
Apr 28, 2013 09:47:23   #
djtravels Loc: Georgia boy now
 
Please read JR1's reply again. Then see if he's joking.

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 09:48:02   #
dparker708
 
People of color is the correct term!

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 09:48:09   #
Mercer Loc: Houston, TX, USA
 
You cannot look at this beautiful child without smiling.

Reply
 
 
Apr 28, 2013 09:49:34   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Good question, and one, it seems, nearly all photographers avoid addressing. Whatever racial group you photograph, skin tones remain a difficult aspect of getting the right tonal values for a natural look. As well, skin tones vary from individual to individual.

In general, you may wish to select each individual's face for adjustment of skin tone.

But you may not have to if the image has a good overall exposure. Flash lighting fill will help here. Often, once you gain a good exposure for the skin tone of one subject, the rest fall into place -- assuming you have not selected just one face for adjustment. In fact, this approach provides a reference for achieving natural skin tones throughout the image.

I use the Hue/Saturation adjustment for this purpose. Try also the Color Balance adjustment, for it provides a fine-tuning that may prove very useful for producing natural-looking skin tones.

Black people: Generally, their skin tone contains more red. The camera sensor will render their skin tone over-red. So back off the red's saturation and adjust its lightness for a natural skin tone. The yellow may also need a similar adjustment.

Asian people: As a rule, their skin tone contains more yellow. But again you will see much variation of skin tone.

White people: This group remains hard to categorize due to so much variation. You may find, however, that working with the red and magenta tones will gain a close approximation of a natural skin tone.

Note that even so-called professional photographers (typically the ones with a photojournalism or a film-era background) simply ignore this difficult aspect of image development. Instead, they simply apply a warming filter that renders skin tones orange or red -- not very flattering, and certainly not natural-looking. Do not copy this lazy approach.

BTW: I cannot give visual examples here because I follow a strict policy of not showing images of adult individuals unless I first gain their permission.

Good luck.

TinkerToi wrote:
Tomorrow I have a Senior photo shoot with twins boys. They are actually mixed race, so a little lighter than usual. I've only photographed one other person of color, but it was all indoors. The shoot tomorrow will totally be outside. Can someone give me some tips please? I will bring flash with me just in case I need some fill flash. But besides that, I'm just not sure. I've read many, many articles on shooting Seniors, but none of them address people of color. Please help! Thanks!!

Bluff Sloping to Seashore, Baja California
Bluff Sloping to Seashore, Baja California...

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 09:54:02   #
David Kay Loc: Arlington Heights IL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
What a coincidence. I got an email from this site a few days ago, but hadn't read it yet. Here you go!

http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/how-to-photograph-various-skin-tones/


I also went to this article and found that it has a misprint in it. It says the following: "To answer the initial question… With a reflectance meter, yes, you have to open up to get the right exposure for black skin tones. (And close down for white.)".

With white skin because the camera meter is trying to go to neutral gray, it actually closes down. So to get it correct you need to open up the expoure, not close down. For black skin the meter says it should be neutral gray and is giving you a reading that is more open. So you need to close down from the reading. Every persons skin is a slightly different shade. So you have to adjust the amount you open and close based on the subjects actual skin color.

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 09:55:00   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
hlmichel wrote:
I would think that it would only be an issue if you are shooting a very light-skinned person in the same frame as a very dark-skinned person.
Or perhaps a dark person wearing white.

As for the "people of color", don't worry about it. The rules on what is acceptable, seem to change rapidly. If truth be told, I fall into that category and I still don't know(or care) what is the politically correct term for myself.


I think the correct term would be 'human' or 'person'. Color has nothing to do with anything. It's a term used to separate instead of join.

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 10:00:51   #
twitcher32 Loc: North Carolina/Costa Rica
 
Tink, I knew exactly to whom you refered. Perhaps the phrase is not commonly used in the UK. Having lived and worked in Africa for many years, I usually meter skin tones closely or open up one stop; by all means avoid open sun for such shots. Bracketing shots will help you learn the best technique for your style.

Reply
 
 
Apr 28, 2013 10:03:02   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
SteveR wrote:
Here is a photo of my son-in-law and grandson taken with my D7000. It turned out pretty well. The sky is blown out, but I hope to fix that with Photoshop.


And I bet you didn't have to do anything special to get the shot either.

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 10:09:28   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Bret wrote:
Yes have fun...my grandkid from last summer back when I was shooting jpgs.


She is a real cutie Bret :-)

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 10:29:30   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
amyinsparta wrote:
I think the correct term would be 'human' or 'person'. Color has nothing to do with anything. It's a term used to separate instead of join.


Yeah but the silly politically correct crap does not address the REAL issue of photographing skin color. So consider "people of color" to be a technical term. In this case color has EVERYTHING to to with it.

I learned year ago that "politically correct is intellectually dishonest."

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 10:32:31   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Don't worry about your vernacular. It is not an insult. My black friends always ask when this comes up, "Then what are white people?" Lol. Just meter for the darkest skin much like you would a blackbird against a bright sky.

Reply
 
 
Apr 28, 2013 10:45:27   #
dave sproul Loc: Tucson AZ
 
TinkerToi wrote:
Tomorrow I have a Senior photo shoot with twins boys. They are actually mixed race, so a little lighter than usual. I've only photographed one other person of color, but it was all indoors. The shoot tomorrow will totally be outside. Can someone give me some tips please? I will bring flash with me just in case I need some fill flash. But besides that, I'm just not sure. I've read many, many articles on shooting Seniors, but none of them address people of color. Please help! Thanks!!


I have not tested this, but I think I remember from a Bryan Peterson article that he uses the term “Mr. Green Jeans” for an exposure process which is (paraphrased) below.

When metering intensly black and/or white compositions:
Establish the exposure using trhe camera’s metering sytem by focusing on some green object, e.g. Plants, grass, etc;
Corrrect the exposure reading to minus two-thirds (-&#8532;) from the meter reading above.
Using this exposure setting as a basic starting point,
THEN either recompose and take the picture OR adjust the aperture and shutter speed for the desired DOF or action freezing THEN recompose and take the picture.

I hope I remembered this correctly. I would be interested in your results IF you decide to use the above.

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 10:46:13   #
MyPharo Loc: New Jersey
 
Man You need to drink DECAF Coffee .. lol You are brutal. The question was legit and you pounced on him like a cat on a mouse .. You See EVERY ONE ELSE in the world is not as good as you are when it comes to Photography .. and some times they have questions that they like to get an answer to and With all your Vast Knowledge in the Field I loved the simple answer . Point n shoot the camera .. Awww if life and photography was so easy .. CHILL .

JR1 wrote:
Colour, are they blue or something !!!! I have no idea what people in India, China, Pakistan manage to do the ? Perhaps just press the shutter release like everyone else.



Reply
Apr 28, 2013 10:57:10   #
David Popham Loc: French Creek, British Columbia
 
TinkerToi wrote:
Very funny. I like a good sense of humor. Their mom is white (Anglo) and their dad is black (Negro). I thought using the wording 'people of color' sounded nicer. Sorry. I won't make that mistake again.


I think you mean Caucasian. Anglo refers to those who have their origins in England.

Reply
Apr 28, 2013 10:57:27   #
gemlenz Loc: Gilbert Arizona
 
In the article they mention an incident meter. WHat if you don't have one?
jerryc41 wrote:
What a coincidence. I got an email from this site a few days ago, but hadn't read it yet. Here you go!

http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/how-to-photograph-various-skin-tones/

Reply
Page <<first <prev 3 of 9 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.