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Apr 16, 2013 21:42:09   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Meives wrote:
I have never taken a survey, but about half like it milk blurred and half sharp. I like it sharp. David


You might like it if it's like whipping cream :thumbup:

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Apr 16, 2013 22:26:43   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
Because that's the way it is supposed to be done. NOT!

Long ago someone tried a long exposure on a waterfall and decided they liked it. Others decided it was incredibly creative and 'Arty' so they copied it. Then it became the thing to do. Then it became the only way to do it at least according to some 'experts.'

Any fool can do it. it takes considerably more effort to give the water some motion blur without turning it to silk.

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Apr 16, 2013 22:55:32   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
Harvey wrote:
Myself not being a pro photographer but one who spent his whole working life selling in both retail and wholesale ( rout sales to stores & restaurants) If you don't have what sells- you are out o business.
This said if I had photos on the wall that out sold some almost like it - I would have far more of those that sold first.
no matter what my opinion was.


You are right. That's called marketing! Somewhat like color or B & W. Both can be OK.

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Apr 16, 2013 23:25:53   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
Brian in Whitby wrote:
Because that's the way it is supposed to be done. NOT!

Long ago someone tried a long exposure on a waterfall and decided they liked it. Others decided it was incredibly creative and 'Arty' so they copied it. Then it became the thing to do. Then it became the only way to do it at least according to some 'experts.'

Any fool can do it. it takes considerably more effort to give the water some motion blur without turning it to silk.


Hey, this sounds like what I've been saying about Apple and Steve Jobs all these years. :-)

Okay, wait a minute... are we going from milky to silky now? :-)

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Apr 16, 2013 23:34:51   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
OK, I do that a lot.

I fell for the say "Silk" five times and when asked what do cows drink I said, "Milk!"

I must be getting older. :oops:

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Apr 17, 2013 00:00:47   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Brian in Whitby wrote:
Because that's the way it is supposed to be done. NOT!

Long ago someone tried a long exposure on a waterfall and decided they liked it. Others decided it was incredibly creative and 'Arty' so they copied it. Then it became the thing to do. Then it became the only way to do it at least according to some 'experts.'

Any fool can do it. it takes considerably more effort to give the water some motion blur without turning it to silk.

The secret to that is variable shutter speed.

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Apr 17, 2013 00:32:48   #
gemac Loc: Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada
 
The truth lies in perception. Airplane propellers and waterfalls and helicopters look unnatural when "frozen" If video looks good at 30 frames per second then your "biological shutterspeed" is in the neighborhood of 1/30 second, realizing that the eye is not hampered by a "shutter". You can use timing extremes to good effect. freeze a hummingbird's wings or pile on neutral density filters and shoot wind generators at 1/3 second.

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Apr 17, 2013 01:00:59   #
peggyjom Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Ka2azman wrote:
It boils down to personal preference, period. If you don't like a picture, I have to assume you do as I do, scan it and go on with your life. It was what the photographer was trying to relay, and if you don't like it - move on.
Personally, I perfer the frozen in time logic. For that is what a picture really is. Here they gave a plane's prop as an example but what of a close-up of a bug eating. Do you need to have the jaws blurred (milky) to show movement, or does the scene show it. His previous bite marks with future bites marks to be made. Some might say with (milky look to the jaw) you were out of focus on some of the picture.

As for the water picture, even though it may have been too quick for your eyes to capture each and every movement individually, (light travels to your eyes, enter, registers on the back of the eye, gets relayed to the back of the brain, converted into a picture in your mind, then your mind fills in the lost sequences to make sense of what you are seeing)that frozen picture is what your eyes really saw. That is why we have time capture in photography. There are some things in nature, like bursting of a balloon, that's too quick for the eye but still beautiful when captured.

Should all balloon burst be milky, bird's wings in flight, a plane in the air. Personal perference - look and move on if you don't like, look and study if you do.
It boils down to personal preference, period. If y... (show quote)

Well said, to say do you do that seems a bit harsh as noted in op.

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Apr 17, 2013 04:25:08   #
Hando Rei Loc: Long Island New York
 
Different strokes for different folks ...

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Apr 17, 2013 08:02:19   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
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Apr 18, 2013 07:52:11   #
Dan5000 Loc: New Hampshire
 
It's all in the eye of the beholder. Each photo has to stand on it's own.

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