Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
New FAQ: Why Does an 8x10 Print Not Match my Original Camera Capture?
Page 1 of 2 next>
Apr 13, 2013 20:46:30   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
FAQ: Why Does an 8x10 Print Not Match my Original Camera Capture?
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-111554-1.html

Reply
Apr 13, 2013 20:58:40   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
The size of the camera sensor is not the same as an 8x10. Size meaning ratio of width to length. Others here will provide the technical information.

Reply
Apr 13, 2013 21:05:17   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
FAQ: Why Does an 8x10 Print Not Match my Original Camera Capture?
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-111554-1.html


See recent post concerning this very issue. Provides visual samples as to why.

Reply
 
 
Apr 13, 2013 21:12:00   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
charles brown wrote:
The size of the camera sensor is not the same as an 8x10. Size meaning ratio of width to length. Others here will provide the technical information.
Did you read the FAQ? That is exactly the point of thread.

Reply
Apr 13, 2013 21:29:21   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Did you read the FAQ? That is exactly the point of thread.


Sorry I missed it. Next time won't do all the yard work in one day. Might also help to wear readers.

Reply
Apr 13, 2013 21:31:22   #
Tea8 Loc: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.
 
We need a like button. I have a couple of posts I would like to like right now. Sorry for getting off topic.

Reply
Apr 14, 2013 06:14:05   #
johnship Loc: Houston, Texas
 
Why is photo paper in sizes, 8x12, 16x24, or 20x30 not available to buy for home printing? I know there are many photo labs that will print on these sizes.

Reply
 
 
Apr 14, 2013 06:58:45   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Red River Paper has those sizes http://www.redrivercatalog.com/shopbypapersize.html

Reply
Apr 14, 2013 07:20:22   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Nikonian72, like many thing in life the reason may be based on odd random and/or inadvertent happenings. Someone sketches a sensor on paper as a concept, not really caring about L-W ratio. The technician doing the work measures and so the ratio never intended is set and copied or film ration is used and where did that ratio come from ... a mechanical limitation?? Thing happen ... Howie Mandel said "cause that what we do"

Then, aaaaha, ratios have to do with the human eye... aaaa er aaaaa, that is a complicated thing... but lead to an interesting article that I printed and will read deeply in the near future.
http://bankslab.berkeley.edu/publications/Files/horiz_vert_disparity_slant99.pdf

I crop to 8x10 (and print at roughly 7.75x9.75 to fit mat) because it prints fine on 8.5 x 11 paper and I can see it at a distance... and that is what the Camera Club requires. Then if I want to get a batch of 10cent prints at the local Walgreens they print 4x6 oops and crop if I do not add canvas to the 8x10 = 4x5 crop.

At this stage of the game we are confronted with many sizes and ratios that may, in some day in the future, be more logical and homogeneous. Oops, the 8x10 mat is not really 8x10!!!

The summary answer to your querry Nikonian72 is "because it doesn't."

Reply
Apr 14, 2013 10:45:57   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
This is too funny! Nikonian72 was announcing a new topic in the FAQ section, not asking a question. See the link in his post.

dpullum wrote:
Nikonian72, like many thing in life the reason may be based on odd random and/or inadvertent happenings. Someone sketches a sensor on paper as a concept, not really caring about L-W ratio. The technician doing the work measures and so the ratio never intended is set and copied or film ration is used and where did that ratio come from ... a mechanical limitation?? Thing happen ... Howie Mandel said "cause that what we do"

Then, aaaaha, ratios have to do with the human eye... aaaa er aaaaa, that is a complicated thing... but lead to an interesting article that I printed and will read deeply in the near future.
http://bankslab.berkeley.edu/publications/Files/horiz_vert_disparity_slant99.pdf

I crop to 8x10 (and print at roughly 7.75x9.75 to fit mat) because it prints fine on 8.5 x 11 paper and I can see it at a distance... and that is what the Camera Club requires. Then if I want to get a batch of 10cent prints at the local Walgreens they print 4x6 oops and crop if I do not add canvas to the 8x10 = 4x5 crop.

At this stage of the game we are confronted with many sizes and ratios that may, in some day in the future, be more logical and homogeneous. Oops, the 8x10 mat is not really 8x10!!!

The summary answer to your querry Nikonian72 is "because it doesn't."
Nikonian72, like many thing in life the reason may... (show quote)

Reply
Apr 14, 2013 10:54:39   #
rebride
 
Very nice Linda From Maine.

Reply
 
 
Apr 14, 2013 11:17:20   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
OOPS: Now I understand FAQ in UHH is a reference category which is an IS definition. Thank you for setting me straight.. seems as tho a number of us fell for the why .... perhaps stating "We have added another FAQ to the FAQ list." would have avoided confusion. Excuse my ignorance of the meaning of the starting post.

Yes Linda, I indeed read the posting reference. And thank you for the work and explanation you did in the posting, many do not understand the basics ....

The referenced post answered what is, and not why. After 42+ years in R&D oriented chemistry/engineering/environmental work, IS and WHY are often two very differing questions.

WHY is philosophical often, too often, resulting from starting choices and evolution after that. Is is the end result. There is an old statement "What is, is." often once the die is cast the expense of changing to something more ideal is cost/benefit prohibitive. The referenced article is fully understood and well written and documented.

Out of interest regarding sensors you may want to see Clarkvision.com reference article: Digital Camera Sensor Performance Summary (warning 64 pages)

Reply
Apr 14, 2013 12:23:47   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
dpullum wrote:
OOPS: Now I understand FAQ in UHH is a reference category which is an IS definition. Thank you for setting me straight.. seems as tho a number of us fell for the why .... perhaps stating "We have added another FAQ to the FAQ list." would have avoided confusion. Excuse my ignorance of the meaning of the starting post.

Yes Linda, I indeed read the posting reference. And thank you for the work and explanation you did in the posting, many do not understand the basics ....

The referenced post answered what is, and not why. After 42+ years in R&D oriented chemistry/engineering/environmental work, IS and WHY are often two very differing questions.

Why is it every time you post , its like trying to read a leagle document . Were you living your child hood with a dictionary in one hand . You must have been a fun kid to play with . Did you get any other gifts as a kid besides word games . Your posts are like trying to read shakspear.

WHY is philosophical often, too often, resulting from starting choices and evolution after that. Is is the end result. There is an old statement "What is, is." often once the die is cast the expense of changing to something more ideal is cost/benefit prohibitive. The referenced article is fully understood and well written and documented.

Out of interest regarding sensors you may want to see Clarkvision.com reference article: Digital Camera Sensor Performance Summary (warning 64 pages)
b OOPS: Now I understand FAQ in UHH is a referenc... (show quote)

Reply
Apr 14, 2013 14:40:53   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
johnship wrote:
Why is photo paper in sizes, 8x12, 16x24, or 20x30 not available to buy for home printing? I know there are many photo labs that will print on these sizes.

Life. Why do hot dogs come in packages of 10 but hot dog buns come in packages of 8?

Reply
Apr 14, 2013 17:12:35   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
russelray wrote:
Why do hot dogs come in packages of 10 but hot dog buns come in packages of 8?
I solve this problem by buying four packages of hotdogs and five packages of buns.

Reply
Page 1 of 2 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.