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Apr 10, 2013 17:13:29   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
I got tired just reading this!


Well I am sure Mt Shooter has a few pastries hidden somewhere and sips coffee from a backpack mount he has designed himself...

However, the wife sneaks up on me the same way when I am looking at camera reviews...and she has the constantly talking part down to a science

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Apr 10, 2013 19:56:26   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
Makes perfect sense. Thanks!!!

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Apr 10, 2013 20:55:12   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
Thank you for formalizing a method I have been using for years. Being able to read the animal's body language is also helpful but that comes mostly with experience. If you can tell when an animal is nervous and when it it relaxed, you have a better chance of a successful non-stalk.

That said, I have also used stalking successfully. There are too many variables to describe when each method is likely to be successful.

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Apr 10, 2013 21:31:07   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
You know thats the way I snuck up on my wife. I didn't want to scare her off. I guess it worked we have been togather now for going on 63 years. But all kidding aside MT thanks for taking the time to explain your method of aproaching wild life. Looking at your photos proves it works.

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Apr 10, 2013 21:43:28   #
cannoneer35 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Thanks for sharing MT shooter. :thumbup:

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Apr 10, 2013 23:51:22   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
MT Shooter, that is some very good advice. As a bird photographer, I have used a similar method to get close to a variety of species. It does not work on all species. Some just move around so much that you just don't have enough time. It seems to help if the birds are engaged in some other activity like feeding or nest building. Some birds have periods of loafing, raptors, egrets, herons, vultures etc. These are good time to approach.

One thing I have noticed is that juveniles tend to be more approachable than adult birds, especially raptors. Just like human teenagers, they appear more curious.

As to not looking at them periodically, my experience is that many birds use that as the moment to escape. I can't tell you how many times I have looked down to see where I am placing my foot only to look back up and see that the bird has disappeared!

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Apr 11, 2013 01:15:08   #
kubzilla
 
Thanks for that detailed explanation, after seeing those incredible photos of the red tailed hawk, I will definitely have to give it a try.
Guess I will have to leave the wife and dog at home :)

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Apr 11, 2013 01:16:40   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
kubzilla wrote:
Thanks for that detailed explanation, after seeing those incredible photos of the red tailed hawk, I will definitely have to give it a try.
Guess I will have to leave the wife and dog at home :)

You could leave the dog in the car.

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Apr 12, 2013 13:55:51   #
K2KImages
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I have been asked several times to detail my Talk-and-Turn method of wildlife approach that I have mentioned in a couple recent posts. Since I teach the method in my seminars I decided I might as well write a brief explanation of it here for those who want to understand it. It has worked for me for over 30 years and it can work for you too, if you have the patience.

Wildlife photography has always been about patience, luck, and more patience. Most wildlife, as opposed to zoo animals, are naturally skittish around humans, they will turn and disappear at first sight most of the time. For this reason alone its very crucial not to startle the animals you are looking to get closer to. Anytime I spot an animal I want to get closer to I immediately start to make my presence known by simply walking back and forth and talking low while still at a considerable distance, making sure NOT to take any steps in their direction. If I am already too close the subject will leave and I am off to the next one. If I am lucky, it will recognize me as a non-threat after awhile and continue on with whatever it was doing, usually foraging for food.
Once the animal has recognized you and decided to stick around, then you can make your approach. This is when you need to set up your tripod, if you are going to use one. The key is to never walk directly towards the subject, nor to walk too far at a time. You don't have to talk about anything in particular, but you need to be almost constantly talking. A higher pitched voice will often irritate the animals, particularly raptors, so if your voice is high-pitched, then try to artificially lower it. The distance you can walk at one time will be relative to the over-all distance that you are from the subject, long distances can mean longer approach lengths. I try to never approach more than 20 yards at a time to start with, shortening that distance with every pause. Walk at an angle so that your approach angle is more than 45 degrees from the subject, meaning more sideways than forward. Walk slowly and keep talking soft and low. Do not look directly at the animal while walking as this can be perceived as a threat, or as a challenge. After your first approach segment, set down your tripod and take a picture, this helps them recognize the shutter sound early. Leave the tripod and turn your back to the animal, still talking, and walk around the spot, staying close to the tripod, but letting the animal see that it is separate from you. After a few minutes, when you are sure you have not bothered it, pick up the tripod and make your next approach segment, this time sideways in the other direction, don't forget to keep talking. Set your tripod down, take a shot, turn your back and mill around some more. If you notice, this is how most wildlife moves around when it is grazing or foraging. Always give them time to get comfortable with your position before moving on. Sometimes this can take 10 or 20 minutes, but learn to judge their nervousness by their responses and actions. I guarantee your will fail this approach method MANY times before you make a successful approach, but that first time will thrill you!
Keep making your slow, zig-zag approach just as above, but remember to make each approach angle a little shorter than the last one. If you are hand-holding and not using a tripod, just lift the camera up and take a shot at every stop, and it doesn't hurt to take shots in other directions too (you can always delete them while you are stopped so you don't fill up a card). The shutter noise is unfamiliar to a wild animal so getting them comfortable with it is critical. You will also have more luck with a group of animals over a solitary animal as they feel safer in a group, especially if you are in an area where there are natural predators around.
Move slowly all the time, especially if raising a camera to your eye as any quick motions will be cause for alarm. Be carful not to trip, even over your own two left feet, as this will scare the subject off pretty much every time! Avoid making unfamiliar motions as you get closer (like changing lenses) as this will also spook many animals since they have not seen or heard those motions and sounds before. Carrying two cameras with different lenses on a double strap is a good technique to use here. (I like to carry 2 bodies, one with a 150-500mm Sigma and one with a Nikon 28-300mm, both with VR).
Whether with or without a tripod, once you start getting closer, and within good photo range, start kneeling down on occasion. This gives the subject an indication that you may be tiring and just wanting to rest for awhile, another safe indicator for them. If there are trees or boulders around, position yourself beside them, but never behind them! Always give the subject a clear view of you when using this method. Hiding, or disappearing from sight is a stalking method and will raise alarm! Take lots of shots when you get within range, vary your exposures, especially your aperture setting to get different DOF in your images.
If you have a day with small clouds going over and blocking the sun on occasion, just wait it out, if the animal is not frightened of you, just be patient. Remember, even when it is not watching you, it is listening to you, it will always be aware of your presence. You have gained its trust, to a certain extent, value that trust and honor it.
Most important of all, once you have made that successful approach, leave in the same manner. Let someone else use the same method, or another one, to also get within that good shooting range.
You can easily spend 2 to 4 hours to get the shot using this method of approach, but it will be WELL worthwhile once you see the shots you can get with it.
Good luck, and I hope this helps some of you who read it, and I hope it isn't too long! ;-)
I have been asked several times to detail my Talk-... (show quote)


MT, great explanation. Love it. One of the reasons this works so well is no preditor(even us) will not retreat. So retreating will allow you to get closer.

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Apr 22, 2013 17:36:51   #
Billybird
 
That is an outstanding approach method. I used a similar method in approaching a gathering of wild bighorn sheep in the San Gabriel Mountains in Southern California. Got close enough to get just head and shoulder photos with a 600mm lens.

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Apr 22, 2013 17:55:08   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
MT...Just for clarification....please list the species that this method DOES NOT work with.

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Apr 22, 2013 18:10:15   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
SteveR wrote:
MT...Just for clarification....please list the species that this method DOES NOT work with.


I guess that list would have to include attractive women! ;-)

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Apr 22, 2013 20:54:55   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I guess that list would have to include attractive women! ;-)


The part about the high pitched voice will definitely not work with this species.

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Apr 23, 2013 11:33:28   #
butterflygirl77nc Loc: North Carolina
 
I tried this out the other day on a Muskrat in my backyard. I hummed because I couldn't think of anything to say to myself... I got about 10 feet from it and got a good shot. He was pretty relaxed which was awesome since my dog had him pretty riled only 20 minutes earlier. I think the scary part was not looking at him and not being able to see him out of the corner of my eyes when I turned away. Thanks MT Shooter. That's going to be fun to practice!

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Apr 23, 2013 13:36:31   #
ph0t0bug
 
The only problem with this technique is that my neighbors think I am nuts. One of them won't even speak to me anymore! But if it gets me a good shot, who needs neighbors :)

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