No pop up flash on Canon 5d mark ii (Page 4): Its not crappy light, its about its placement and the direction from which it comes. Obviously you cant change that and thats the...

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

Its not crappy light, its about its placement and the direction from which it comes. Obviously you cant change that and thats the rub but you can manipulate the light coming from the pop up. You can bounce it (requires accessory) and you can diffuse it and even add color gels. Once again just so no one misunderstands Im not suggesting a pop up will do what a speed light will do only that they can be another valuable weapon in your arsenal.

gordnanaimo Loc: Vancouver Island

The 6D came out about a month afte I had bought my mk 11. I was shattered. It appears to be all the mark 11 is and more for less money. If I had to do it all over again I woudl opt for the 6D. Or the mark 111 if I could afford it.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

Julieb wrote:

I just upgraded from my t3i to a 6D. I chose the 6D over the Mark II for the following reasons: Lighter weight, better low-light capabilities, easier focus. So far, I LOVE it!

Try this. http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-EOS-6D-vs-Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II

moriti Loc: California

cfbrown wrote:

Ok..I have the chance to get a full frame Canon 5d mark ii. I was reading about it and found out that it doesn't have a pop up flash. I take alot of pictures indoors and use the flash on my Canon t1i occasionally when I don't have alot of light coming thru the windows. I do have a Canon Speedlight 430ex that I could use.

Anyone using the 5d Mark ii have good luck with pictures inside?
Worth the upgrade?

I have the Mark ii and the 430ex well work fine. This is an excellent camera. If you have a chance to get this camera I would jump on it! :D

Plymouth34 Loc: Pacific Northwest

cfbrown wrote:

Ok..I have the chance to get a full frame Canon 5d mark ii. I was reading about it and found out that it doesn't have a pop up flash. I take alot of pictures indoors and use the flash on my Canon t1i occasionally when I don't have alot of light coming thru the windows. I do have a Canon Speedlight 430ex that I could use.

Anyone using the 5d Mark ii have good luck with pictures inside?
Worth the upgrade?

I have been using a Canon 6d for the past six months. Prior to that I had a Canon t2I. I haven't missed the flash at all. In fact I think it has forced me to learn what the camera is capable of doing with or without flash. I'd go for it.

Jblanke Loc: Metairie, LA

I wanted one for years .......finally bought it this past Christmas. I am really happy with mine. I never use the pop up flash on my 40d.....I never miss it on the 5d MK II. Go for it unless money is no object and you can afford the MK III.

cfbrown Loc: Indiana

I just wanted to thank everyone for their advice and knowledge. I knew I could count on everyone here.

Thanks!!

Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA

Plymouth34 wrote:

I have been using a Canon 6d for the past six months. Prior to that I had a Canon t2I. I haven't missed the flash at all. In fact I think it has forced me to learn what the camera is capable of doing with or without flash. I'd go for it.

Personally, I'd go for the 5D Mk III. I really don't see where Canon is going with the 6D.

They have the EOS 1D X for Pros and the 5D MK III for semi-pros , advanced amateurs, etc (both Full Frame). The 7D fills the gap with a highly advanced crop sensor, high burst rate and multifunction autofocus.

The 6D is like a bare-bones full frame that has WiFi and GPS but I really don't know of anybody that uses that stuff. Card readers are pretty cheap and most people know where they were when they took an extrordinary image.

GaryS1964 Loc: Northern California

RaydancePhoto wrote:

The popup flash is there for people who don't know how to use their cameras.

You had to think you might get some blowback on this statement.:-)

I have a Canon 7D which has a popup flash. When I'm walking around Disneyland from 9AM to midnight the last thing I want is to have to carry around my 430EX for those shots where I might need flash or have it mounted on my camera all the time after the sun goes down. Same thing when I'm walking around Monterey/Carmel or other similar places from morning til night.

So IMHO it depends on how you use your camera. For a non-pro like myself having a built in flash is convenient. I do use a defuser to cut the harsh light. I'm waiting for the 7D Mkii and if it doesn't have a flash or is high priced I will seriously consider upgrading to a 5D Mkiii and probably get a Canon 270EX which is compact and wouldn't add that much weight or get in the way in crowds or getting on and off those rides at Disneyland.

Having said that if taking pictures is the prime objective of my trip then I'll carry my backpack with lenses and flash plus my tripod.

Xantoz Loc: Delaware

One word!! Speedlite!! Buy the M2 and you will love it. I do. And my M3. Big glass and almost never need a flash if you take it off auto and work the aperture correctly!! Enjoy!

Doug B Loc: Edmonton Alberta

Pop up flash on my D700 certainly helps with fill flash when required in landscape or macro.. Anything that helps is welcome.

BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA

One of the best shots at the California State Railroad Museum is, unfortunately, brightly backlit. Most photos taken without fill flash are underexposed. Very few people visit a museum with a flash attached to a camera; for most of our guests, an under-powered pop-up flash is a necessity.

Doug B Loc: Edmonton Alberta

Mogul wrote:

One of the best shots at the California State Railroad Museum is, unfortunately, brightly backlit. Most photos taken without fill flash are underexposed. Very few people visit a museum with a flash attached to a camera; for most of our guests, an under-powered pop-up flash is a necessity.

While I have considerable equipment to use and reach the solution that is required for the photos I want. I don't really believe a professional would turn down anything that would aid his/her photography under certain situations, and there are many that come to mind. There are many solutions to reach the photo you want and a pop up is just one of them. Nikon supplies this as an addition and many time it is very helpful. On many occasion I have heard Pro Canon shooters that wish for this on their camera and in many cases they have features that I also wish I could access.

BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA

Doug B wrote:

While I have considerable equipment to use and rea... (show quote)

Doug, your response to my comment triggered a thought about the scene I referenced. The professional or advanced amateur would probably be able to handle the scene without a flash, either be spot-metering, using experience-based manual exposure or using exposure compensation. Any such shots might require post processing, but the shot is possible. Thanks for reminding me that there are other solutions.

Doug B Loc: Edmonton Alberta

Mogul wrote:

Doug, your response to my comment triggered a thought about the scene I referenced. The professional or advanced amateur would probably be able to handle the scene without a flash, either be spot-metering, using experience-based manual exposure or using exposure compensation. Any such shots might require post processing, but the shot is possible. Thanks for reminding me that there are other solutions.

In most cases you are right, but every once in a while!