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Mar 29, 2013 23:51:59   #
Susyseek2 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Thanks BMac, I will do that.... So little time... so much to learn! Thanks again for your help!

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Mar 30, 2013 01:36:37   #
R'laine Loc: Bay of Plenty, New Zealand.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Can't quite wrap my head around the value of "answered a challenge by coincidence."

We're just looking at the experience differently. For me it's an opportunity to push myself, sometimes out of my comfort zone (e.g. my preferred subject matter) and sometimes to just find a different viewpoint.

You wouldn't be "putting forth effort to do the same thing" if you challenged yourself to come up with a fresh approach, different point of view, etc.

In agreement here.

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Mar 30, 2013 03:29:08   #
Lazy Old Coot Loc: Gainesville, Florida
 
True
St3v3M wrote:
Hey Coot, I thank you for your suggestion and have thought about it, but wouldn't that take some of the challenge out of it? Now you wake up and are given an assignment. Go shoot.

What does everyone else think?


I guess by not having such a short deadline is does reduce the challenge a bit, but it seems to me it will be an improvement for several reasons. It will open up the contest to working folks that simply don't have enough free time on their hands to dream up a concept and produce a quality entry in just four or five days. It will reduce the number of entries plucked from archives. It should, I think, improve the overall quality of the entries. There should be fewer entries that don't fit the theme and most importantly it will require little or no increase in the time and energy you will have to invest running the show. It seems to me it's worth trying, you could always revert back to the five day system if you find it doesn't result in any of the improvements I've mentioned. ........ Coot

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Mar 30, 2013 11:16:45   #
CardinalLady Loc: Hoosier
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
That is the coolest statement I've read on this site!!


I totally agree! It is a cool statement! I always tell my daughter how hard it is to understand her situations with her 3 boys because my children were perfect! She always laughs and agrees.

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Mar 30, 2013 11:36:13   #
CardinalLady Loc: Hoosier
 
Susyseek2 wrote:
Nah! Nah! I don't think that is the case.... I am not winning the contests :D :D Furthermore, there are just a lot of really helpful and nice people on UHH!


Suzy, you do have some really great photos! The competition is stiff around here! We all can't "win." The most votes. I have trouble every contest deciding which to vote for and hate to eliminate because about 30% are usually really good. I just look to see what the ones that get the most votes have that make them so great and what to do to improve on mine. There were some great guidelines offered early in this post to help us shoot and choose great photos. Practice and the challenges can only make us better!

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Mar 30, 2013 11:55:47   #
lovesphotos Loc: Colorado and Arizona
 
St3v3M wrote:
Is it reasonable then for someone new to compete against a photo you have had for years that has been worked again and again until it is just right? Keeping it within the timelimit is a part of the challenge even if it means doing it again.


Making the rules for the challenge belongs to the challenger. If you say this is what is required, there should be no arguments. What I am talking about is if someone should have a piece of work from the past that is within the challenge requirements, why he or she shouldn't submit it. It has nothing to do if one is experienced or not. What matters is the subject matter, and the capability of the person behind the camera in folowing the rules. Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that some of us just can't drop everything and and go hunting for the subject matter. So it would be convenient for us to submit a photo from the past that is relevant. Of course you can say, then don't enter it. But then, that's why most of us are here. To show some of our photos. If we can't, what would be the purpose of being here.
I am a painter. There have been times in the past a new young painter beat the pants out of one of my entries that was done a period before. So, don't sell an inexperienced person short regarding their capabilities.
And as for working a photo to death until it looks right, anyone with access to a manupilating software can do that on a photo they took yesterday.

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Mar 30, 2013 12:44:06   #
Tea8 Loc: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.
 
Susyseek2 wrote:
Whoops.... sorry... I thought I had asked for critique... I mean, I thought because I put the photo in that area, it meant I put it there for critique! I will have to be careful, and make sure I specifically ask for critique! Thanks for your comments. One thing I am having trouble with the most is sharp focus. When I use a tripod, I would expect to get really sharp photos, and most of mine aren't. Is it because I am not using prime lens? I have a Nikon D5100...and I got two zoom lens with it when I purchased it. One is a 18-55mm and the other is a 55-300mm lens. I really like the camera, but now since learning more about photography, I think I am already outgrowing this one.
Not that I am a good photographer, but I think I should have checked more before I decided on this camera.
Whoops.... sorry... I thought I had asked for cri... (show quote)


Yeah post like Bmac suggested because I have the D5200 with the exact same lenses and I get sharp focus like all the time. When you have it on the tripod are you turning the VR/IS off? Because sometimes when it is on and the camera is on a tripod it will look for any vibrations and when there are none it can actually cause some when looking and not get sharp focus.

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Mar 30, 2013 13:02:33   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Cardinallady wrote:
... I have trouble every contest deciding which to vote for and hate to eliminate because about 30% are usually really good. I just look to see what the ones that get the most votes have that make them so great and what to do to improve on mine. There were some great guidelines offered early in this post to help us shoot and choose great photos. Practice and the challenges can only make us better!


Well said.

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Mar 30, 2013 13:03:45   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
lovesphotos wrote:
Making the rules for the challenge belongs to the challenger. If you say this is what is required, there should be no arguments. What I am talking about is if someone should have a piece of work from the past that is within the challenge requirements, why he or she shouldn't submit it. It has nothing to do if one is experienced or not. What matters is the subject matter, and the capability of the person behind the camera in folowing the rules. Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that some of us just can't drop everything and and go hunting for the subject matter. So it would be convenient for us to submit a photo from the past that is relevant. Of course you can say, then don't enter it. But then, that's why most of us are here. To show some of our photos. If we can't, what would be the purpose of being here.
I am a painter. There have been times in the past a new young painter beat the pants out of one of my entries that was done a period before. So, don't sell an inexperienced person short regarding their capabilities.
And as for working a photo to death until it looks right, anyone with access to a manupilating software can do that on a photo they took yesterday.
Making the rules for the challenge belongs to the ... (show quote)


Excellent points. Thank you!

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Mar 30, 2013 18:41:44   #
Gramps Loc: Republic of Tejas--Tomball, TX
 
St3v3M wrote:
Excellent points. Thank you!


So why not have a dual contest. One that is smoke and mirrors, PP gimmicks, contrived images and one that is pure photography straight from the driver's eye and their camera?
If it's impossible to see an immage, compose, or in some cases, grab the shot and then leave it alone, I guess the definition still stands---camels are horses built by a commitee and Photoshop!

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Mar 30, 2013 20:04:32   #
murm Loc: Adelaide, Australia
 
lovesphotos wrote:
Making the rules for the challenge belongs to the challenger. If you say this is what is required, there should be no arguments. What I am talking about is if someone should have a piece of work from the past that is within the challenge requirements, why he or she shouldn't submit it. It has nothing to do if one is experienced or not. What matters is the subject matter, and the capability of the person behind the camera in folowing the rules. Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that some of us just can't drop everything and and go hunting for the subject matter. So it would be convenient for us to submit a photo from the past that is relevant. Of course you can say, then don't enter it. But then, that's why most of us are here. To show some of our photos. If we can't, what would be the purpose of being here.
I am a painter. There have been times in the past a new young painter beat the pants out of one of my entries that was done a period before. So, don't sell an inexperienced person short regarding their capabilities.
And as for working a photo to death until it looks right, anyone with access to a manupilating software can do that on a photo they took yesterday.
Making the rules for the challenge belongs to the ... (show quote)


I'm with you, I have tons of shots that I have challenged myself to get over the years, so that makes them taken from alot less experienced photographer than I am now, so what's the difference when you took the shot.
Like you say not everyone can just drop everything & go looking for some shot of a subject.
As far as manipulating a photo over & over well that's crap, you are only going to fix exposure & stuff once then it's done , how is trying to do it over & over ever going to make it better. If your starting with rubbish it won't matter how many times you try to make it good it will always be rubbish.

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Mar 30, 2013 20:06:37   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
murm wrote:
I'm with you, I have tons of shots that I have challenged myself to get over the years, so that makes them taken from alot less experienced photographer than I am now, so what's the difference when you took the shot.
Like you say not everyone can just drop everything & go looking for some shot of a subject.
As far as manipulating a photo over & over well that's crap, you are only going to fix exposure & stuff once then it's done , how is trying to do it over & over ever going to make it better. If your starting with rubbish it won't matter how many times you try to make it good it will always be rubbish.
I'm with you, I have tons of shots that I have cha... (show quote)


You all realize the Rules state:
- Archived photos are not encouraged - please shoot your photo during the challenge

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Mar 30, 2013 21:22:50   #
Tea8 Loc: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.
 
St3v3M wrote:
You all realize the Rules state:
- Archived photos are not encouraged - please shoot your photo during the challenge


Yes, but it doesn't say they aren't welcome. They just aren't encouraged. So to people that says eh, they don't really care if it's archived or not.

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Mar 30, 2013 21:48:35   #
murm Loc: Adelaide, Australia
 
St3v3M wrote:
You all realize the Rules state:
- Archived photos are not encouraged - please shoot your photo during the challenge


I pass.

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Mar 30, 2013 22:15:08   #
HaroldZ Loc: New Jersey
 
I agree. It is short and to the point.

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