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Dec 4, 2011 17:49:48   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
BOB wrote:
Doug , I bet you drive a Ford too.......lol

My vehicle is a 1998 4WD, 5.2 liter V8, 5-speed manual, extended cab Dodge Dakota, with knobby tires and a get-outa-my-way bumper package. I can drive anywhere I want, and then some!

Far from any road, near Sedona AZ
Far from any road, near Sedona AZ...

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Dec 4, 2011 18:23:49   #
BBNC
 
I'm still pushing around a practically antique Minolta 7D, in addition to a Canon SX30.

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Dec 4, 2011 18:40:19   #
jackinkc Loc: Kansas City
 
patsibley wrote:
"Pentax just got bouhgt by ricoh, i hope this isn't like when konica bought ouyt minolta."

Ricoh and pentax have been tied together for awhile. When I bought by K-1000 (film), I also bought a Ricoh semi automatic as it would take all my pentax lenses. This was back in the early 80s.


If you are talking about the old M42 screw mount lens system, it did not originate with Pentax. The M42 system was from East Germany and I believe it originated with the Pentacon, Praktina, Praktica, camera systems. Pentax picked this up back in the late '50s and it was used my many camera companies, including Ricoh and Mamiya. Germany originated the system but the Japanese developed it to the limit of its potential.

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Dec 4, 2011 18:41:13   #
jackinkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
BOB wrote:
Doug , I bet you drive a Ford too.......lol

My vehicle is a 1998 4WD, 5.2 liter V8, 5-speed manual, extended cab Dodge Dakota, with knobby tires and a get-outa-my-way bumper package. I can drive anywhere I want, and then some!


Looks to me like you can get there and back.

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Dec 4, 2011 19:22:38   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
Nikonian........ To your credit, I don't think I have even heard you pick on another brand. I respect that.
That's what I like about UHH. We go out of our way to avoid arguments about brands. At least most do.
Nikonian72 wrote:
ALYN wrote:
1. I am a big Olympus Ultra Zoom fan.(32x zoom)
2 All I see, hear or read about is the "war between Canon and Nikon--both excellant boxes.
3 There are numerous other camera brands for sale. Are there any ADVOCATES for the other "exotic brands ? What are your experiences--good or bad?

Olympus makes good cameras and excellent lenses, but it is more fun for Nikonians to pick on Canonians than Olympians or Pentaxians.

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Dec 4, 2011 19:40:12   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
ALYN wrote:
1. I am a big Olympus Ultra Zoom fan.(32x zoom)
2 All I see, hear or read about is the "war between Canon and Nikon--both excellant boxes.
3 There are numerous other camera brands for sale. Are there any ADVOCATES for the other "exotic brands ? What are your experiences--good or bad?

Olympus makes good cameras and excellent lenses, but it is more fun for Nikonians to pick on Canonians than Olympians or Pentaxians.

Don't leave out the Panasonicans !

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Dec 4, 2011 19:40:13   #
daveg1942
 
sinatraman wrote:
olympus is in deep deep financial trouble. If they were an american company their top officials would be spending time at club fed. They dilebately withheld financial losses, and are like one billion yen in the hole. They may go bankrupt, or somebody may buy the=m out. Pentax just got bouhgt by ricoh, i hope this isn't like when konica bought ouyt minolta. There is a strong contingent of sony/minolta fans, but since entry level is so dominated by nikon/cannon, and since many on here bought their cameras at sams/costco/best buy/ big box store, a vast majority are cannon or nikon owners. I am invested in nikon lenses, but if I were just starting out I would be a Pentaxian.
olympus is in deep deep financial trouble. If they... (show quote)

I'm a pentax Guy, I shot with w Pentax Plus film camera and now shoot with a K7 DSLR. I love the product.

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Dec 4, 2011 20:15:38   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
mezeus wrote:
I am having a very hard time trying to understand what you question is?
Do you understand what that X factor is and how it works?

It is a multiplier. You must have TWO numbers (shortest focal length) before that X factor means anything.


I have a Panasonic FZ50 that has the 35mm equivilent focal lenghts printed on the barrel...don't have to worry about multiplying the crop factor

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Dec 4, 2011 21:17:30   #
drjuice
 
My observation is that this is a religious argument. That said, the last cameras that I buy in my life will be Sony. I'm a firm Sony user for two reasons. First, they bought Minolta's lens business and all my Minolta Maxxam lenses work just fine on my alpha 700. Second, Sony uses the memory stick pro duo for recording images in most of their still cameras (you can use other ones in several cameras, including a number of the alphas). I have a slot on my computers for memory stick pro duos (four computers) so that, regardless of which camera I have handy, I can get the images off it quickly when necessary. I have two 16GB sticks and a 4GB for the rare instances when I run out of space on the other two.

I'm absolutely happy with my Minolta lenses which are REALLLLLL glass from the 1980s on my otherwise Sony camera (and when I go into a serious photo store, the sales people lust after my lenses ;~).

I've been working in this mode since Halloween, 2007, i.e., not much has changed since then except my skill level has improved.

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Dec 4, 2011 21:22:46   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
jackinkc wrote:
patsibley wrote:
"Pentax just got bouhgt by ricoh, i hope this isn't like when konica bought ouyt minolta."

Ricoh and pentax have been tied together for awhile. When I bought by K-1000 (film), I also bought a Ricoh semi automatic as it would take all my pentax lenses. This was back in the early 80s.


If you are talking about the old M42 screw mount lens system, it did not originate with Pentax. The M42 system was from East Germany and I believe it originated with the Pentacon, Praktina, Praktica, camera systems. Pentax picked this up back in the late '50s and it was used my many camera companies, including Ricoh and Mamiya. Germany originated the system but the Japanese developed it to the limit of its potential.
quote=patsibley "Pentax just got bouhgt by r... (show quote)

Those M42 screw mounts were a pain, especially with the larger lenses. I had a Pentax Spotmatic that at the time was great except for that big screw. Good riddance.

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Dec 4, 2011 21:34:37   #
BBNC
 
I agree about the old screw mount, you had to be careful not to cross thread or drop the lens while getting it started.

A lot of people don't know this, but Minolta used to make some of the lens elements for Leica.

What matters more than what brand you have is learning to get the most out of it.

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Dec 4, 2011 22:23:56   #
ALYN Loc: Lebanon, Indiana
 
Hey, Billy ! That's an awesome chart !! I will have to study it for some time. Iwould highly recommend it to any serious fotobug.
But I still like Olympus. That's my story and I'm stuck with it.

ALYN

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Dec 4, 2011 23:13:36   #
ccmc1448
 
I'm also a big Olympus fan - started out with their E-10, graduated to the E-500 and have now moved on to their E-5.
I find the photos produced by all three are top quality in all respects (and improving with each newer camera).
One thing I have noticed over the years is that Olympus has always brought out new advances in their cameras and then were followed by Nikon and Canon. Both those cameras are excellent but probably spend 2 to 3 times the money to hype their products than Oly. does, and have a corner on the market.
I still would not trade my Olys. for any other camera. Also, their lens qualities are among the best.

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Dec 5, 2011 12:03:19   #
jackinkc Loc: Kansas City
 
BBNC wrote:
A lot of people don't know this, but Minolta used to make some of the lens elements for Leica.


Minolta actually built entire camera assemblies for Leica, including at least one complete camera, the Leica/Minolta CL: http://tinyurl.com/2hhdbu

Leica also used specially selected Minolta G lenses for their R series of SLRs. Such lenses were rebadged as Leica lenses.

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Dec 5, 2011 12:07:22   #
pdwoodswood Loc: Lewisville, NC
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
ALYN wrote:
1. I am a big Olympus Ultra Zoom fan.(32x zoom)
2 All I see, hear or read about is the "war between Canon and Nikon--both excellant boxes.
3 There are numerous other camera brands for sale. Are there any ADVOCATES for the other "exotic brands ? What are your experiences--good or bad?

Olympus makes good cameras and excellent lenses, but it is more fun for Nikonians to pick on Canonians than Olympians or Pentaxians.


for shame

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