Obama's collage transcripts.
It's the Birth Certificate thing warmed over. Even after everyone saw it, it wasn't good enough, it was tampered with..blah blah blah. My guess is if he released the college transcripts someone would come up with yet another thing for him to prove or say were fake. It will never end. If I were him I wouldn't play the game either. I can't believe some of the stuff I read here. Half of the Obama haters spew venom and lies w/o fact checking. If it was in a tabloid or email, it must be true? If they have nothing else they bring up his father that left him when he was very young and got DUI's, had many women etc. How does that matter? He was gone from his life! Obama must really be good to keep all these accusations from being proven over the years. No one else in history has ever been that good. Not even the Kennedys!!
Christy wrote:
It's the Birth Certificate thing warmed over. Even after everyone saw it, it wasn't good enough, it was tampered with..blah blah blah. My guess is if he released the college transcripts someone would come up with yet another thing for him to prove or say were fake. It will never end. If I were him I wouldn't play the game either. I can't believe some of the stuff I read here. Half of the Obama haters spew venom and lies w/o fact checking. If it was in a tabloid or email, it must be true? If they have nothing else they bring up his father that left him when he was very young and got DUI's, had many women etc. How does that matter? He was gone from his life! Obama must really be good to keep all these accusations from being proven over the years. No one else in history has ever been that good. Not even the Kennedys!!
It's the Birth Certificate thing warmed over. Eve... (
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Well said Christy. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Gnslngr wrote:
Penny MG wrote:
I am not a moron or a racist. I am a good God fearing person that believes at this point in time that Obama is bringing down the nation due to his lack of moral standing. If you really want to see a true MORON, please, go look in the mirror. Calling people names because you couldn't add anything intelligent to the conversation is not called for....and if that is the way liberals want to present themselves, then so be it. I teach physicians and perform difficult test on patients. I dare say my IQ is much higher than yours. So could you please refrain from calling names, especially to people you don't even know. I see now why you are in hiding.
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The highlighted part is such an obvious lie I cannot stop laughing. Were it true, then god himself could not help the sick. As for IQs, I've read your posts. Sorry, dear, but you couldn't hold a candle to my brilliance. :thumbup:
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No its not a lie....and you are one lost soul, I would pitty you, but apparently you are not worthy of anyones pity.
[quote=KW Conch]
Screamin Scott wrote:
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She is still being furloughed, now going on 5 years. Is your son being furloughed?...So are you are implying is that it's OK to pass our debt off onto future generations of our children's children, just so the current generation doesn't have to suffer?
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
A president may have limited influence per se, but if their party does not allow bills to pass that would influence job growth, then he would be culpable as well... Now, before you talk about obstructionism from the Republicans, remember that the "Stimulus" passed & that was supposed to stimulate job growth, which it failed to do. Any future attempts to pass bills to "stimulate" the economy that included spending by the Federal Government & thus increasing the deficit, as opposed to other measures, would only be rejected as they failed in the first attempt.
tinfoilpixels wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an excerpt from it..."We want to note, as we repeatedly have, that even though there's been improvement in the job numbers during the Obama administration, a president's ability to influence the economy is severely limited....So when people on here want to blame someone, they should note this...
Yeah but ScreaminScott, by your admission right there, then 80 percent of Romney's campaign of blaming Obama for unemployment staying as high as it did for nearly 4 years was faulty??
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an exc... (
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quote=Screamin Scott As per the Politifact link e... (
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The stimulus saved tens of thousands of jobs for teachers, police, firemen, etc. that otherwise would have been laid off.
Much of the stimulus went to the states to save those jobs. My son is a teacher and his job is one that was on the chopping block if were not for the stimulus money.
A president may have limited influence per se, but... (
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quote=Screamin Scott A president may have limited... (
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My son was not furloughed. His job and others were saved by the stimulus. The state is now on firmer footing and is no longer in a financial crisis.
Regarding the debt, it would be better if the debt were lower, but it is nothing new. You seem to think that the debt suddenly appeared when Obama was elected. We have had debt for many decades and it continues to grow. It is a dilemma as we can see what has happened in Europe when austerity programs were enacted. Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. They prefer to put all of the burden of cuts on the poor and elderly.
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She ... (
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Must be nice that your son was not furloughed. If the stimulus was so good as to him at him not being furloughed, why has my wife been? Is guess to you, it's OK as it hasn't affected you or your family personally & as long as that is the case, you will consider the "stimulus" good so long as that doesn't change. As for the Federal debt, The debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office. That is twice the rate of increase that Bush had.As for "Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. ".. You seem to forget that Obama got a tax increase on the "rich" at the end of last year, without any spending cuts. Now he wants more cuts?....Yeah, the proposals he's put on the table simply slow the rate of future spending. They don't actually cut current spending.Playing with numbers is all it is...Look at "Obamacare"...Looks as though the CBO has revised their estimates of it's cost upward. Then the other day, the "sample" application to apply for it is revealed & the forms are a monstrosity, as daunting as even tax forms...Gimme a break!
Have you ever read his self penned bio ? Do it & you would ask questions too...
Christy wrote:
It's the Birth Certificate thing warmed over. Even after everyone saw it, it wasn't good enough, it was tampered with..blah blah blah. My guess is if he released the college transcripts someone would come up with yet another thing for him to prove or say were fake. It will never end. If I were him I wouldn't play the game either. I can't believe some of the stuff I read here. Half of the Obama haters spew venom and lies w/o fact checking. If it was in a tabloid or email, it must be true? If they have nothing else they bring up his father that left him when he was very young and got DUI's, had many women etc. How does that matter? He was gone from his life! Obama must really be good to keep all these accusations from being proven over the years. No one else in history has ever been that good. Not even the Kennedys!!
It's the Birth Certificate thing warmed over. Eve... (
show quote)
I'm confused. What the hell is a "collage" transcript? Did Obama make make lots of collages in college and get a separate transcript showing the grades he got for making them? Or did he take his college transcript, rip it into pieces, and use it to make a collage? If somebody can explain what a collage transcript is then perhaps we can have an intelligent conversation about it.
Bmac
Loc: Long Island, NY
Kalskag2 wrote:
I'm confused. What the hell is a "collage" transcript? Did Obama make make lots of collages in college and get a separate transcript showing the grades he got for making them? Or did he take his college transcript, rip it into pieces, and use it to make a collage? If somebody can explain what a collage transcript is then perhaps we can have an intelligent conversation about it.
Most people do not need it explained and realized it was a simple mistake. Now you know also and your confusion should clear. :D
Kalskag2 wrote:
I'm confused. What the hell is a "collage" transcript? Did Obama make make lots of collages in college and get a separate transcript showing the grades he got for making them? Or did he take his college transcript, rip it into pieces, and use it to make a collage? If somebody can explain what a collage transcript is then perhaps we can have an intelligent conversation about it.
It's not good to make fun of a challenged person. If you see a crippled child do you make fun of them too?
[quote=Screamin Scott]
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She is still being furloughed, now going on 5 years. Is your son being furloughed?...So are you are implying is that it's OK to pass our debt off onto future generations of our children's children, just so the current generation doesn't have to suffer?
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
A president may have limited influence per se, but if their party does not allow bills to pass that would influence job growth, then he would be culpable as well... Now, before you talk about obstructionism from the Republicans, remember that the "Stimulus" passed & that was supposed to stimulate job growth, which it failed to do. Any future attempts to pass bills to "stimulate" the economy that included spending by the Federal Government & thus increasing the deficit, as opposed to other measures, would only be rejected as they failed in the first attempt.
tinfoilpixels wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an excerpt from it..."We want to note, as we repeatedly have, that even though there's been improvement in the job numbers during the Obama administration, a president's ability to influence the economy is severely limited....So when people on here want to blame someone, they should note this...
Yeah but ScreaminScott, by your admission right there, then 80 percent of Romney's campaign of blaming Obama for unemployment staying as high as it did for nearly 4 years was faulty??
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an exc... (
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quote=Screamin Scott As per the Politifact link e... (
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The stimulus saved tens of thousands of jobs for teachers, police, firemen, etc. that otherwise would have been laid off.
Much of the stimulus went to the states to save those jobs. My son is a teacher and his job is one that was on the chopping block if were not for the stimulus money.
A president may have limited influence per se, but... (
show quote)
quote=Screamin Scott A president may have limited... (
show quote)
My son was not furloughed. His job and others were saved by the stimulus. The state is now on firmer footing and is no longer in a financial crisis.
Regarding the debt, it would be better if the debt were lower, but it is nothing new. You seem to think that the debt suddenly appeared when Obama was elected. We have had debt for many decades and it continues to grow. It is a dilemma as we can see what has happened in Europe when austerity programs were enacted. Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. They prefer to put all of the burden of cuts on the poor and elderly.
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She ... (
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Must be nice that your son was not furloughed. If the stimulus was so good as to him at him not being furloughed, why has my wife been? Is guess to you, it's OK as it hasn't affected you or your family personally & as long as that is the case, you will consider the "stimulus" good so long as that doesn't change. As for the Federal debt, The debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office. That is twice the rate of increase that Bush had.As for "Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. ".. You seem to forget that Obama got a tax increase on the "rich" at the end of last year, without any spending cuts. Now he wants more cuts?....Yeah, the proposals he's put on the table simply slow the rate of future spending. They don't actually cut current spending.Playing with numbers is all it is...Look at "Obamacare"...Looks as though the CBO has revised their estimates of it's cost upward. Then the other day, the "sample" application to apply for it is revealed & the forms are a monstrosity, as daunting as even tax forms...Gimme a break!
quote=Screamin Scott My wife is in the local Sher... (
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I presume that your wife was furloughed and my son was not because we live in different states. The stimulus money was given to the states and they used it where they thought it would do the most good.
Concerning spending, be careful what you wish for. If the deep cuts that the tea party wants actually happened, there would be a lot of screaming on the part of the older folks. It would look like Greece with the riots and not only from the welfare recipients.
The "tax increases" in January affected less tan two percent of the population. Big deal ! We fought two wars and the folks at home got a tax cut. Shameful.
I'm also grateful that I'm already on Medicare as Paul Ryan wants to turn it into a voucher plan to save money. Typical conservative Republican. Cut spending on the elderly and give more tax cuts to the wealthy and big corporations. He is a disgusting individual.
I thought that the misspelling was merely a typo and was using it to try to lighten up the discourse in this thread, but I do sincerely apologize if I offended you. And no, I do not make fun of children with disabilities.
Kalskag2 wrote:
I thought that the misspelling was merely a typo and was using it to try to lighten up the discourse in this thread, but I do sincerely apologize if I offended you. And no, I do not make fun of children with disabilities.
Thanks for the apology. Your a good person. Since I started this thread I have been called all kinds of things. I am a bad speller and if you spell it wrong but it is another word it doesn't tell you. Sometimes I don't even get close and have to ask my wife of son.
It's good to keep things civil, you get your point across better.
[quote=KW Conch]
Screamin Scott wrote:
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She is still being furloughed, now going on 5 years. Is your son being furloughed?...So are you are implying is that it's OK to pass our debt off onto future generations of our children's children, just so the current generation doesn't have to suffer?
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
A president may have limited influence per se, but if their party does not allow bills to pass that would influence job growth, then he would be culpable as well... Now, before you talk about obstructionism from the Republicans, remember that the "Stimulus" passed & that was supposed to stimulate job growth, which it failed to do. Any future attempts to pass bills to "stimulate" the economy that included spending by the Federal Government & thus increasing the deficit, as opposed to other measures, would only be rejected as they failed in the first attempt.
tinfoilpixels wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an excerpt from it..."We want to note, as we repeatedly have, that even though there's been improvement in the job numbers during the Obama administration, a president's ability to influence the economy is severely limited....So when people on here want to blame someone, they should note this...
Yeah but ScreaminScott, by your admission right there, then 80 percent of Romney's campaign of blaming Obama for unemployment staying as high as it did for nearly 4 years was faulty??
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an exc... (
show quote)
quote=Screamin Scott As per the Politifact link e... (
show quote)
The stimulus saved tens of thousands of jobs for teachers, police, firemen, etc. that otherwise would have been laid off.
Much of the stimulus went to the states to save those jobs. My son is a teacher and his job is one that was on the chopping block if were not for the stimulus money.
A president may have limited influence per se, but... (
show quote)
quote=Screamin Scott A president may have limited... (
show quote)
My son was not furloughed. His job and others were saved by the stimulus. The state is now on firmer footing and is no longer in a financial crisis.
Regarding the debt, it would be better if the debt were lower, but it is nothing new. You seem to think that the debt suddenly appeared when Obama was elected. We have had debt for many decades and it continues to grow. It is a dilemma as we can see what has happened in Europe when austerity programs were enacted. Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. They prefer to put all of the burden of cuts on the poor and elderly.
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She ... (
show quote)
Must be nice that your son was not furloughed. If the stimulus was so good as to him at him not being furloughed, why has my wife been? Is guess to you, it's OK as it hasn't affected you or your family personally & as long as that is the case, you will consider the "stimulus" good so long as that doesn't change. As for the Federal debt, The debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office. That is twice the rate of increase that Bush had.As for "Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. ".. You seem to forget that Obama got a tax increase on the "rich" at the end of last year, without any spending cuts. Now he wants more cuts?....Yeah, the proposals he's put on the table simply slow the rate of future spending. They don't actually cut current spending.Playing with numbers is all it is...Look at "Obamacare"...Looks as though the CBO has revised their estimates of it's cost upward. Then the other day, the "sample" application to apply for it is revealed & the forms are a monstrosity, as daunting as even tax forms...Gimme a break!
quote=Screamin Scott My wife is in the local Sher... (
show quote)
I presume that your wife was furloughed and my son was not because we live in different states. The stimulus money was given to the states and they used it where they thought it would do the most good.
Concerning spending, be careful what you wish for. If the deep cuts that the tea party wants actually happened, there would be a lot of screaming on the part of the older folks. It would look like Greece with the riots and not only from the welfare recipients.
The "tax increases" in January affected less tan two percent of the population. Big deal ! We fought two wars and the folks at home got a tax cut. Shameful.
I'm also grateful that I'm already on Medicare as Paul Ryan wants to turn it into a voucher plan to save money. Typical conservative Republican. Cut spending on the elderly and give more tax cuts to the wealthy and big corporations. He is a disgusting individual.
quote=KW Conch quote=Screamin Scott My wife is i... (
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Here is more on Ryan. How does this help the middle class ?
http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/15/news/economy/ryan-taxes/index.html?iid=HP_River
Stupid article on several levels. Look at "hose in the middle of the income spectrum -- earning between $43,000 and $68,000 -- would wind up with a tax cut of about $900 on average, while those earning below $22,000 would have savings of only $40. " Well DUH !!! that is the way it currently is, The people who make more will always have a higher "Tax break" dollar amount simply because they make more...Equate it out to a percentage of income & see what you get...This is a prime example of cherry picking statistics...
[quote=KW Conch]
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She is still being furloughed, now going on 5 years. Is your son being furloughed?...So are you are implying is that it's OK to pass our debt off onto future generations of our children's children, just so the current generation doesn't have to suffer?
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
A president may have limited influence per se, but if their party does not allow bills to pass that would influence job growth, then he would be culpable as well... Now, before you talk about obstructionism from the Republicans, remember that the "Stimulus" passed & that was supposed to stimulate job growth, which it failed to do. Any future attempts to pass bills to "stimulate" the economy that included spending by the Federal Government & thus increasing the deficit, as opposed to other measures, would only be rejected as they failed in the first attempt.
tinfoilpixels wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an excerpt from it..."We want to note, as we repeatedly have, that even though there's been improvement in the job numbers during the Obama administration, a president's ability to influence the economy is severely limited....So when people on here want to blame someone, they should note this...
Yeah but ScreaminScott, by your admission right there, then 80 percent of Romney's campaign of blaming Obama for unemployment staying as high as it did for nearly 4 years was faulty??
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an exc... (
show quote)
quote=Screamin Scott As per the Politifact link e... (
show quote)
The stimulus saved tens of thousands of jobs for teachers, police, firemen, etc. that otherwise would have been laid off.
Much of the stimulus went to the states to save those jobs. My son is a teacher and his job is one that was on the chopping block if were not for the stimulus money.
A president may have limited influence per se, but... (
show quote)
quote=Screamin Scott A president may have limited... (
show quote)
My son was not furloughed. His job and others were saved by the stimulus. The state is now on firmer footing and is no longer in a financial crisis.
Regarding the debt, it would be better if the debt were lower, but it is nothing new. You seem to think that the debt suddenly appeared when Obama was elected. We have had debt for many decades and it continues to grow. It is a dilemma as we can see what has happened in Europe when austerity programs were enacted. Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. They prefer to put all of the burden of cuts on the poor and elderly.
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She ... (
show quote)
Must be nice that your son was not furloughed. If the stimulus was so good as to him at him not being furloughed, why has my wife been? Is guess to you, it's OK as it hasn't affected you or your family personally & as long as that is the case, you will consider the "stimulus" good so long as that doesn't change. As for the Federal debt, The debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office. That is twice the rate of increase that Bush had.As for "Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. ".. You seem to forget that Obama got a tax increase on the "rich" at the end of last year, without any spending cuts. Now he wants more cuts?....Yeah, the proposals he's put on the table simply slow the rate of future spending. They don't actually cut current spending.Playing with numbers is all it is...Look at "Obamacare"...Looks as though the CBO has revised their estimates of it's cost upward. Then the other day, the "sample" application to apply for it is revealed & the forms are a monstrosity, as daunting as even tax forms...Gimme a break!
quote=Screamin Scott My wife is in the local Sher... (
show quote)
I presume that your wife was furloughed and my son was not because we live in different states. The stimulus money was given to the states and they used it where they thought it would do the most good.
Concerning spending, be careful what you wish for. If the deep cuts that the tea party wants actually happened, there would be a lot of screaming on the part of the older folks. It would look like Greece with the riots and not only from the welfare recipients.
The "tax increases" in January affected less tan two percent of the population. Big deal ! We fought two wars and the folks at home got a tax cut. Shameful.
I'm also grateful that I'm already on Medicare as Paul Ryan wants to turn it into a voucher plan to save money. Typical conservative Republican. Cut spending on the elderly and give more tax cuts to the wealthy and big corporations. He is a disgusting individual.
quote=KW Conch quote=Screamin Scott My wife is i... (
show quote)
Here is more on Ryan. How does this help the middle class ?
http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/15/news/economy/ryan-taxes/index.html?iid=HP_River quote=Screamin Scott quote=KW Conch quote=Screa... (
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[quote=Screamin Scott]Stupid article on several levels. Look at "hose in the middle of the income spectrum -- earning between $43,000 and $68,000 -- would wind up with a tax cut of about $900 on average, while those earning below $22,000 would have savings of only $40. " Well DUH !!! that is the way it currently is, The people who make more will always have a higher "Tax break" dollar amount simply because they make more...Equate it out to a percentage of income & see what you get...This is a prime example of cherry picking statistics...
KW Conch wrote:
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She is still being furloughed, now going on 5 years. Is your son being furloughed?...So are you are implying is that it's OK to pass our debt off onto future generations of our children's children, just so the current generation doesn't have to suffer?
KW Conch wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
A president may have limited influence per se, but if their party does not allow bills to pass that would influence job growth, then he would be culpable as well... Now, before you talk about obstructionism from the Republicans, remember that the "Stimulus" passed & that was supposed to stimulate job growth, which it failed to do. Any future attempts to pass bills to "stimulate" the economy that included spending by the Federal Government & thus increasing the deficit, as opposed to other measures, would only be rejected as they failed in the first attempt.
tinfoilpixels wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an excerpt from it..."We want to note, as we repeatedly have, that even though there's been improvement in the job numbers during the Obama administration, a president's ability to influence the economy is severely limited....So when people on here want to blame someone, they should note this...
Yeah but ScreaminScott, by your admission right there, then 80 percent of Romney's campaign of blaming Obama for unemployment staying as high as it did for nearly 4 years was faulty??
As per the Politifact link earlier, here is an exc... (
show quote)
quote=Screamin Scott As per the Politifact link e... (
show quote)
The stimulus saved tens of thousands of jobs for teachers, police, firemen, etc. that otherwise would have been laid off.
Much of the stimulus went to the states to save those jobs. My son is a teacher and his job is one that was on the chopping block if were not for the stimulus money.
A president may have limited influence per se, but... (
show quote)
quote=Screamin Scott A president may have limited... (
show quote)
My son was not furloughed. His job and others were saved by the stimulus. The state is now on firmer footing and is no longer in a financial crisis.
Regarding the debt, it would be better if the debt were lower, but it is nothing new. You seem to think that the debt suddenly appeared when Obama was elected. We have had debt for many decades and it continues to grow. It is a dilemma as we can see what has happened in Europe when austerity programs were enacted. Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. They prefer to put all of the burden of cuts on the poor and elderly.
My wife is in the local Sheriff's department. She ... (
show quote)
Must be nice that your son was not furloughed. If the stimulus was so good as to him at him not being furloughed, why has my wife been? Is guess to you, it's OK as it hasn't affected you or your family personally & as long as that is the case, you will consider the "stimulus" good so long as that doesn't change. As for the Federal debt, The debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office. That is twice the rate of increase that Bush had.As for "Obama has offered to put programs on the table in exchange for tax increases on those who can afford it, but the Republicans prefer to protect their rich friends and won't even consider getting rid of tax loopholes and corporate welfare. ".. You seem to forget that Obama got a tax increase on the "rich" at the end of last year, without any spending cuts. Now he wants more cuts?....Yeah, the proposals he's put on the table simply slow the rate of future spending. They don't actually cut current spending.Playing with numbers is all it is...Look at "Obamacare"...Looks as though the CBO has revised their estimates of it's cost upward. Then the other day, the "sample" application to apply for it is revealed & the forms are a monstrosity, as daunting as even tax forms...Gimme a break!
quote=Screamin Scott My wife is in the local Sher... (
show quote)
I presume that your wife was furloughed and my son was not because we live in different states. The stimulus money was given to the states and they used it where they thought it would do the most good.
Concerning spending, be careful what you wish for. If the deep cuts that the tea party wants actually happened, there would be a lot of screaming on the part of the older folks. It would look like Greece with the riots and not only from the welfare recipients.
The "tax increases" in January affected less tan two percent of the population. Big deal ! We fought two wars and the folks at home got a tax cut. Shameful.
I'm also grateful that I'm already on Medicare as Paul Ryan wants to turn it into a voucher plan to save money. Typical conservative Republican. Cut spending on the elderly and give more tax cuts to the wealthy and big corporations. He is a disgusting individual.
quote=KW Conch quote=Screamin Scott My wife is i... (
show quote)
Here is more on Ryan. How does this help the middle class ?
http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/15/news/economy/ryan-taxes/index.html?iid=HP_River quote=Screamin Scott quote=KW Conch quote=Screa... (
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quote=KW Conch quote=Screamin Scott quote=KW Co... (
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I would hate to see this country become a "banana republic" where a few ultra wealthy rule over the masses in poverty and the middle class becomes virtually extinct. Tax policies being pushed by Ryan and his minions are pushing us in that direction. I guess you are OK with it.
KW Conch wrote:
I would hate to see this country become a "banana republic" where a few ultra wealthy rule over the masses in poverty and the middle class becomes virtually extinct. Tax policies being pushed by Ryan and his minions are pushing us in that direction. I guess you are OK with it.
Well said. I'm afraid we are losing the battle, though. Even the President will eventually cave on some republican demands.
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