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Mar 11, 2013 11:45:12   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
nolte1964 wrote:
what is the difference between a PC and a MAC besides price, the Operating System which you can buy and load on a PC and then guess what you have a MAC for half the price....just saying.....your paying a lot more for a lot less when you buy Apple, but you can have the Same Operating system and a faster computer for less money by mixing the two. OF course if you are not a tech person, then spend your money on what makes you happy. The innards of both systems are pretty much the same!


If you are very computer savvy you might get satisfaction out of a Hackintosh. Apple hardware tends to more reliable and is certainly more elegant. Read this link for what you in for with a Hackintosh.
http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/01/is-your-computer-hackintosh-compatible.html

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Mar 11, 2013 11:52:22   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
RocketScientist wrote:
sustersick wrote:
I have an iMac 27 inch. and i love it. for years I was a PC nut, but I would not go back to a PC, MAC is the best!!


Once you go MAC you never go back?? ;)


Where have I heard that before? :thumbup:

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Mar 11, 2013 11:56:04   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
mcveed wrote:
nolte1964 wrote:
what is the difference between a PC and a MAC besides price, the Operating System which you can buy and load on a PC and then guess what you have a MAC for half the price....just saying.....your paying a lot more for a lot less when you buy Apple, but you can have the Same Operating system and a faster computer for less money by mixing the two. OF course if you are not a tech person, then spend your money on what makes you happy. The innards of both systems are pretty much the same!


If you are very computer savvy you might get satisfaction out of a Hackintosh. Apple hardware tends to more reliable and is certainly more elegant. Read this link for what you in for with a Hackintosh.
http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/01/is-your-computer-hackintosh-compatible.html
quote=nolte1964 what is the difference between a ... (show quote)


Can you give us an example of hardware in an apple that is more reliable?

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Mar 11, 2013 12:10:34   #
hughburden Loc: UK
 
oops lost my reply... apologies if this is a repeat.
Hi Robert.
These days pretty much most computers will do the job. The i-Mac is great (been on Mac for ever) however I have another suggestion.
A MacBook Pro with 'special' Apple cable linked to an Eizo monitor will give you 'desktop' performance, two screen useabilty and the versatility of a laptop in its own right. Eizo monitors are considered excellent for colour calibration which it is why they are 'kinda' the industry standard.
(however the i Mac is 'pretty' and looks cool)

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Mar 11, 2013 12:53:34   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
mdorn wrote:
mcveed wrote:
nolte1964 wrote:
what is the difference between a PC and a MAC besides price, the Operating System which you can buy and load on a PC and then guess what you have a MAC for half the price....just saying.....your paying a lot more for a lot less when you buy Apple, but you can have the Same Operating system and a faster computer for less money by mixing the two. OF course if you are not a tech person, then spend your money on what makes you happy. The innards of both systems are pretty much the same!


If you are very computer savvy you might get satisfaction out of a Hackintosh. Apple hardware tends to more reliable and is certainly more elegant. Read this link for what you in for with a Hackintosh.
http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/01/is-your-computer-hackintosh-compatible.html
quote=nolte1964 what is the difference between a ... (show quote)


Can you give us an example of hardware in an apple that is more reliable?
quote=mcveed quote=nolte1964 what is the differe... (show quote)


No. My comment was based on personal experience and reputation.

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Mar 11, 2013 12:53:43   #
Sundance Loc: S. F. Bay Area
 
Robert1258 wrote:
Looking to get a new computer. how does everyone feel about the i mac desktop?


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
I think you will find it to be different - but in a "most positive" kind of way. Very user friendly once you get the hang of it.

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Mar 11, 2013 12:56:06   #
Sundance Loc: S. F. Bay Area
 
hughburden wrote:
oops lost my reply... apologies if this is a repeat.
Hi Robert.
These days pretty much most computers will do the job. The i-Mac is great (been on Mac for ever) however I have another suggestion.
A MacBook Pro with 'special' Apple cable linked to an Eizo monitor will give you 'desktop' performance, two screen useabilty and the versatility of a laptop in its own right. Eizo monitors are considered excellent for colour calibration which it is why they are 'kinda' the industry standard.
(however the i Mac is 'pretty' and looks cool)
oops lost my reply... apologies if this is a repea... (show quote)


Excellent Idea ! I might try that myself as I also have a MacBook Pro.

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Mar 11, 2013 13:26:05   #
JoAnneK01 Loc: Lahaina, Hawaii
 
Used a PC for many years and bought my first iMac (24") back in 2008. Love it so much that I just purchased a new MacBook Pro with the retanae screen. Won't go back to a PC.

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Mar 11, 2013 13:53:44   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
I'm going to guess that if you install OS X on something other than a Mac, you had best be pretty knowledgeable. Apple isn't going to give you any support, and neither is any PC manufacturer. You'll be on your own. Buy a refurb from Apple and you get the normal 1-year warranty and support, and are eligible for the 3-year extended Applecare, which gives you longer hardware support and all the tech support you might ever need.

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Mar 11, 2013 14:23:37   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
JoAnneK01 wrote:
Used a PC for many years and bought my first iMac (24") back in 2008. Love it so much that I just purchased a new MacBook Pro with the retanae screen. Won't go back to a PC.


I hear this a lot... no one ever goes back to a PC after moving to a MAC. However, what are people really saying? Here's my take. Please correct me if I'm totally off-base.

1) You don't need to"go back" because now you have both platforms.
2) If you've moved to a MAC it was probably done at a time your system needed to be upgraded in the first place, so moving from a Vista PC with 2GB of RAM and an IDE hard drive is going to obviously be faster than upgrading from Win 7 with 8GB or RAM and a SATA III hard drive.
3) Like switching from Canon to Nikon---if you go through the trouble of replacing all your software, then you are certainly not likely to go back.
4) Have you "truly" made the switch, or are you still using a PC at work or in some other capacity?
5) If you have always ONLY used a MAC, then going "back" is irrelevant.

The truth is many have just changed their primary computer from a PC to a MAC. We don't hear of many MAC users changing to PC and stating they will never go back to a MAC because PC users are much less idealistic and more realistic. <joke> Never say never. :-) The only thing certain in life is change.

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Mar 11, 2013 14:49:57   #
77firebird Loc: Van Buren Ar.
 
Robert1258 wrote:
Looking to get a new computer. how does everyone feel about the i mac desktop?


I just got a i mac 27" a couple weeks ago. There is a learning curve and you will use Youtube alot to on how to work the simple things like removing programs when there is not a uninstall.exe.

With that said, I love it, FAST FAST FAST, and takes up a lot less desk real estate because it is all-in-one. You will have to buy a external cd-rom because they took it out to make it slimmer.

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Mar 11, 2013 15:50:53   #
JoAnneK01 Loc: Lahaina, Hawaii
 
mdorn wrote:
JoAnneK01 wrote:
Used a PC for many years and bought my first iMac (24") back in 2008. Love it so much that I just purchased a new MacBook Pro with the retanae screen. Won't go back to a PC.


I hear this a lot... no one ever goes back to a PC after moving to a MAC. However, what are people really saying? Here's my take. Please correct me if I'm totally off-base.

1) You don't need to"go back" because now you have both platforms.
2) If you've moved to a MAC it was probably done at a time your system needed to be upgraded in the first place, so moving from a Vista PC with 2GB of RAM and an IDE hard drive is going to obviously be faster than upgrading from Win 7 with 8GB or RAM and a SATA III hard drive.
3) Like switching from Canon to Nikon---if you go through the trouble of replacing all your software, then you are certainly not likely to go back.
4) Have you "truly" made the switch, or are you still using a PC at work or in some other capacity?
5) If you have always ONLY used a MAC, then going "back" is irrelevant.

Love your dog Mdorn.

The truth is many have just changed their primary computer from a PC to a MAC. We don't hear of many MAC users changing to PC and stating they will never go back to a MAC because PC users are much less idealistic and more realistic. <joke> Never say never. :-) The only thing certain in life is change.
quote=JoAnneK01 Used a PC for many years and boug... (show quote)


Yes, I do have both platforms as I do use Parallels on my MAC. With that said, I am slowly replacing my Window programs to the MAC versions as they would normally run better.

Unfortunately, some of the MAC programs are still several generations behind the PC ones. I do believe though now that Apple is using an Intel processor the Mac programs will soon catch up and possibly surpass the PC programs in their capabilities.

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Mar 11, 2013 16:58:26   #
eloi11 Loc: Glasgow, Scotland
 
Robert... Go for it. Been using Macs for three years after so many years on PC's. Knew I would never go back after a few weeks of use - like all Mac users. Expensive, yes but you will know why when you find your way around them. In all that time no hangs, no virus's and no complaints.

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Mar 11, 2013 18:38:42   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
mdorn wrote:
I hear this a lot... no one ever goes back to a PC after moving to a MAC. However, what are people really saying? Here's my take. Please correct me if I'm totally off-base.

1) You don't need to"go back" because now you have both platforms.
2) If you've moved to a MAC it was probably done at a time your system needed to be upgraded in the first place, so moving from a Vista PC with 2GB of RAM and an IDE hard drive is going to obviously be faster than upgrading from Win 7 with 8GB or RAM and a SATA III hard drive.
3) Like switching from Canon to Nikon---if you go through the trouble of replacing all your software, then you are certainly not likely to go back.
4) Have you "truly" made the switch, or are you still using a PC at work or in some other capacity?
5) If you have always ONLY used a MAC, then going "back" is irrelevant.

The truth is many have just changed their primary computer from a PC to a MAC. We don't hear of many MAC users changing to PC and stating they will never go back to a MAC because PC users are much less idealistic and more realistic. <joke> Never say never. :-) The only thing certain in life is change.
I hear this a lot... no one ever goes back to a PC... (show quote)

It's not that Apple doesn't change where things are. but with Microsoft, it seems to be like religion to shuffle everything around and to add 38,000 buttons to programs like Word and Excel to exercise features that almost nobody uses. But Microsoft never met a feature it didn't like. Plus there's that security thing. And I know there are PC types here who will swear that they've never paid a cent for security software and never had a problem. Yet a good portion of my income comes from PC users who've loaded up their systems with security software and still been dropped in their tracks by malware.

No, Macs aren't bulletproof, but I've had maybe two instances of Mac users getting viruses, one of which was an ancient Word macro virus.

And, as you noted, I've never heard of anyone migrating from a Mac to a PC and raving about how wonderful the transition was.

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Mar 11, 2013 19:38:17   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
RMM wrote:
It's not that Apple doesn't change where things are. but with Microsoft, it seems to be like religion to shuffle everything around and to add 38,000 buttons to programs like Word and Excel to exercise features that almost nobody uses. But Microsoft never met a feature it didn't like. Plus there's that security thing. And I know there are PC types here who will swear that they've never paid a cent for security software and never had a problem. Yet a good portion of my income comes from PC users who've loaded up their systems with security software and still been dropped in their tracks by malware.

No, Macs aren't bulletproof, but I've had maybe two instances of Mac users getting viruses, one of which was an ancient Word macro virus.

And, as you noted, I've never heard of anyone migrating from a Mac to a PC and raving about how wonderful the transition was.
It's not that Apple doesn't change where things ar... (show quote)


Actually, MS's security is quite good---unlike Apple, they've had a lot of time and practice dealing with malware. You are correct, I'm an example of never paying for security software, but I'm not recommending others follow suit. I won't argue that Apple has a better OS---they do. However, you can be a PC owner and still have a trouble-free computing experience, all things being equal. I've probably posted this before on this forum, but malware on the PC is primarily due to the user's behavior more than anything else. If you want to minimize malware on a PC, then you're gonna need to change your behavior. Most people say they are willing to do this, but don't. In the meantime, you can continue disinfecting PC at a rate of 10 to 1. Personally, I think if you (I mean others) are not happy with your PC and MS, then stop complaining, get off your wallet and switch to Apple. :-)

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