Law Student "schools" policemen on gun rights.
Feb 25, 2013 09:30:38 #
rpavich wrote:
You might think that this law student is being a jerk but in my opinion, he's not.
There are a LOT of threads here about how people are afraid to even take a photo on the street for fear that the police might become involved...we live in fear when we shouldn't.
Watch how this law student gives a class on the law to these policemen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRUCpv3DdVo
There are a LOT of threads here about how people are afraid to even take a photo on the street for fear that the police might become involved...we live in fear when we shouldn't.
Watch how this law student gives a class on the law to these policemen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRUCpv3DdVo
Not I am not think that this law student is being a jerk, perhaps a good candidate for suprime court.
He is and real american.
God bless him.
Feb 25, 2013 10:41:49 #
rpavich wrote:
You might think that this law student is being a jerk but in my opinion, he's not.
In my opinion, I think he is a jerk. Had he given the police his ID, he would be on his way. In another town, with another cop, he might have been detained; in that case who gave who an educaton.
Feb 25, 2013 11:05:46 #
The policeman was apparently dispatched because people had called in expressing concern. If this was taken after Newtown, well, gee, I wonder why people might have been concerned? I think the cop would have been perfectly within his rights to haul the kid's ass to the police department. However, he said he'd called his supervisor, so he exhibited great patience and control in the face of deliberate provocation.
Feb 25, 2013 11:09:53 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
Opem carry depends where you live for a list of the states see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States
Open carry laws of loaded handguns (OpenCarry.org)[13]
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Licensed Open Carry State
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It is funny how everyone loves a cop when s/he is needed but likes to harass them when they are not needed.
I will bet I can walk into any workplace read the employee handbook and catch every member of the company including the CEO doing something not allowed in the handbook.
Let the law student pull over a suspicious car at 3 AM in the bad part of town.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States
Open carry laws of loaded handguns (OpenCarry.org)[13]
Permissive Open Carry State
Licensed Open Carry State
Anomalous Open Carry State
Non-permissive Open Carry State
[edit]Definitions
It is funny how everyone loves a cop when s/he is needed but likes to harass them when they are not needed.
I will bet I can walk into any workplace read the employee handbook and catch every member of the company including the CEO doing something not allowed in the handbook.
Let the law student pull over a suspicious car at 3 AM in the bad part of town.
Feb 25, 2013 11:11:33 #
krf4 wrote:
Question; what is the difference between this or a photographer doing the same thing, which we have seen posted here, too?
sarge69 wrote:
I think the kid was prepared, wore the gun to provoke and then used his knowledge to slam the policeman.
I would have taken him to the station for identification, wasted a couple of hours on his ass, then apologized and sent him on his way.
Oh gee, someones going to call me a Nazi for that won't they ?
Sarge69
I would have taken him to the station for identification, wasted a couple of hours on his ass, then apologized and sent him on his way.
Oh gee, someones going to call me a Nazi for that won't they ?
Sarge69
Question; what is the difference between this or a photographer doing the same thing, which we have seen posted here, too?
Easy, one is carrying a gun and one a camera. 8-)
Feb 25, 2013 11:16:25 #
krf4 wrote:
Stay on point there was now crime committed and isn't that the topic?
Actually I believe the topic was whether the kid was a jerk or not. No one has said a crime was committed and the police investigate complaints to determine if a crime has been or is being committed. 8-)
Feb 25, 2013 11:18:38 #
RMM wrote:
The policeman was apparently dispatched because people had called in expressing concern. If this was taken after Newtown, well, gee, I wonder why people might have been concerned? I think the cop would have been perfectly within his rights to haul the kid's ass to the police department. However, he said he'd called his supervisor, so he exhibited great patience and control in the face of deliberate provocation.
Good post RMM. :thumbup:
Feb 25, 2013 11:22:34 #
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Feb 25, 2013 12:02:59 #
The police should know and understand these laws. If we can't demand that then we are in trouble. If the roles were reversed as in a "sting" operation would the cops be called jerks by those calling this kid a jerk? There is nothing wrong with demanding transparency, professionalism and accountability from those who can legally use deadly force.
It is not against the law for the cop to ask for ID but he has no legal basis for demanding it unless he suspects a crime is being or has been committed. If someone voluntarily gives up their rights for showing ID, consent to warrantless searches or seizures that is their business but to call someone a jerk because they are trying to prove a point is, well, whatever. America was founded on civil disobedience.
It is not against the law for the cop to ask for ID but he has no legal basis for demanding it unless he suspects a crime is being or has been committed. If someone voluntarily gives up their rights for showing ID, consent to warrantless searches or seizures that is their business but to call someone a jerk because they are trying to prove a point is, well, whatever. America was founded on civil disobedience.
Feb 25, 2013 12:12:14 #
donrent wrote:
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Of course you do and the guy HAD a permit that the cop took and didn't want to give back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fawlty128 wrote:
Don't you need a license to carry a gun in a public, or is that only in some states?
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Of course you do and the guy HAD a permit that the cop took and didn't want to give back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not in all states. What he took was a receit of purchse which you have to carry so that they know it is a legally purchased weapon. Louisiana you can carry as long as it is not conceled.You just cannot carry them into restricted areas without a concele permit
Feb 25, 2013 12:16:34 #
the cop was wrong, but the guy argueing does not want to try that in LA, seeing the cops shoot people without any warning
Feb 25, 2013 12:18:04 #
If the student was going to commit a crime do you honestly think he would have the gun in plain sight!!!
Feb 25, 2013 12:21:20 #
gmcase wrote:
The police should know and understand these laws. ... (show quote)
Expecting a cop to remember every aspect of every law is unreasonable. In todays atmosphere with several recent shootings the cop would have been criminally wrong if he did not question the kid.
Yes, if it was a cop setting up a situation like this to attempt to trip someone up - I would call him a jerk and the people in his town would call for his firing.
Feb 25, 2013 12:23:03 #
jimbo301 wrote:
If the student was going to commit a crime do you honestly think he would have the gun in plain sight!!!
It is nearly impossible to predict the behavior of people and most criminals are not intelligent. 8-)
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