OddJobber wrote:
GHK wrote:
I don't think that cameras with which you can select aspect ratios are offering anything worth while. All they do is to crop away some of the image.
I would suggest that you choose the setting which doesn't cause any cropping and always use it. That way, you save the largest image possible and you can then make your own decision about how you want it cropped.
GHK
Totally agreed. Nikon and probably others offer in-camera editing that will allow cropping to different aspect ratios, but why bother? Best left to post processing.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. I you know up front that you will be wanting 8x10s, 16x20s, then setting the camera to the 4:5 format ensures you SHOOT with everything in the frame. No mistakes in framing that cause cropping problems later.
I find this feature VERY helpful.
CaptainC wrote:
OddJobber wrote:
GHK wrote:
I don't think that cameras with which you can select aspect ratios are offering anything worth while. All they do is to crop away some of the image.
I would suggest that you choose the setting which doesn't cause any cropping and always use it. That way, you save the largest image possible and you can then make your own decision about how you want it cropped.
GHK
Totally agreed. Nikon and probably others offer in-camera editing that will allow cropping to different aspect ratios, but why bother? Best left to post processing.
quote=GHK I don't think that cameras with which y... (
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. I you know up front that you will be wanting 8x10s, 16x20s, then setting the camera to the 4:5 format ensures you SHOOT with everything in the frame. No mistakes in framing that cause cropping problems later.
I find this feature VERY helpful.
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Oh Captain my Captain, it may sound like I'm waffling on this issue, but I approach these things from a newbie point of view, and looking for the easy way out. My solution: with a 3:2 aspect Nikon, I've drawn a couple of lines on my LCD screen with permanent marker to indicate what will be included in an 8X10 print. Then framing the shot all I have to do is color inside the lines. :thumbup: For me it's easier and faster than changing settings.
Just shoot at your normal ratio with the composition you want in the frame. If your intended composition needs cropping than you should be aware when you press the shutter and then crop later as intended.
GHK
Loc: The Vale of Eden
CaptainC wrote:
OddJobber wrote:
GHK wrote:
I don't think that cameras with which you can select aspect ratios are offering anything worth while. All they do is to crop away some of the image.
I would suggest that you choose the setting which doesn't cause any cropping and always use it. That way, you save the largest image possible and you can then make your own decision about how you want it cropped.
GHK
Totally agreed. Nikon and probably others offer in-camera editing that will allow cropping to different aspect ratios, but why bother? Best left to post processing.
quote=GHK I don't think that cameras with which y... (
show quote)
Sorry, but I have to disagree. I you know up front that you will be wanting 8x10s, 16x20s, then setting the camera to the 4:5 format ensures you SHOOT with everything in the frame. No mistakes in framing that cause cropping problems later.
I find this feature VERY helpful.
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Fair enough if you are happy to work that way, but, as others have said (and I have voiced my agreement), allowing a predetermined aspect ratio dictate your composition seems to approach the problem from the wrong direction
GHK
GHK wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
OddJobber wrote:
GHK wrote:
I don't think that cameras with which you can select aspect ratios are offering anything worth while. All they do is to crop away some of the image.
I would suggest that you choose the setting which doesn't cause any cropping and always use it. That way, you save the largest image possible and you can then make your own decision about how you want it cropped.
GHK
Totally agreed. Nikon and probably others offer in-camera editing that will allow cropping to different aspect ratios, but why bother? Best left to post processing.
quote=GHK I don't think that cameras with which y... (
show quote)
Sorry, but I have to disagree. I you know up front that you will be wanting 8x10s, 16x20s, then setting the camera to the 4:5 format ensures you SHOOT with everything in the frame. No mistakes in framing that cause cropping problems later.
I find this feature VERY helpful.
quote=OddJobber quote=GHK I don't think that cam... (
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Fair enough if you are happy to work that way, but, as others have said (and I have voiced my agreement), allowing a predetermined aspect ratio dictate your composition seems to approach the problem from the wrong direction
GHK
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These are all just tools. Yes, I am happy to work that way. Suggesting it is the wrong approach if you have never done it is an opinion with no experience behind it. Obviously if I do not know ahead of time what ratios I will want, I shoot the standard 3:2 and that is 95% or more. BUT when I have been told that an 8x10 is the known output, this solves all kinds of framing guessing and by assigning it to the function button, changing in and out of it takes about 1 second.
It is also great for doing head shots that look best in the 4:5 format.
CaptainC wrote:
... by assigning it to the function button, changing in and out of it takes about 1 second.
Well, yeah, that would work too. :-) I said I'm a newbie. ;-) Thanks!
GHK
Loc: The Vale of Eden
CaptainC wrote:
GHK wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
OddJobber wrote:
GHK wrote:
I don't think that cameras with which you can select aspect ratios are offering anything worth while. All they do is to crop away some of the image.
I would suggest that you choose the setting which doesn't cause any cropping and always use it. That way, you save the largest image possible and you can then make your own decision about how you want it cropped.
GHK
Totally agreed. Nikon and probably others offer in-camera editing that will allow cropping to different aspect ratios, but why bother? Best left to post processing.
quote=GHK I don't think that cameras with which y... (
show quote)
Sorry, but I have to disagree. I you know up front that you will be wanting 8x10s, 16x20s, then setting the camera to the 4:5 format ensures you SHOOT with everything in the frame. No mistakes in framing that cause cropping problems later.
I find this feature VERY helpful.
quote=OddJobber quote=GHK I don't think that cam... (
show quote)
Fair enough if you are happy to work that way, but, as others have said (and I have voiced my agreement), allowing a predetermined aspect ratio dictate your composition seems to approach the problem from the wrong direction
GHK
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These are all just tools. Yes, I am happy to work that way. Suggesting it is the wrong approach if you have never done it is an opinion with no experience behind it. Obviously if I do not know ahead of time what ratios I will want, I shoot the standard 3:2 and that is 95% or more. BUT when I have been told that an 8x10 is the known output, this solves all kinds of framing guessing and by assigning it to the function button, changing in and out of it takes about 1 second.
It is also great for doing head shots that look best in the 4:5 format.
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I do take your point. Maybe the difference is that I work essentially as an amateur. That being so, on the occasions that my work is asked for by a third party, I am in a position to accept or refuse their requests for crops etc..
Maybe a professional can't afford to do that, unless, of course, he is a Cartier Bresson.
It is often said that HCB never cropped his pictures. That is the exact opposite of the true situation; he probably cropped most of them. What he didn't do was to allow a publisher or client to do any further cropping.
GHK
HCB didn't crop. he rarely printed his own work. A sign that they weren't cropped is the black edges of the film rebate due to the negative carriers being filed.
Is there a preferred aspect ratio for panoramas? Or is it too dependent on how the panorama was created? I've never tried to get a panorama printed, so I don't know, but I've been wondering lately.
R.G. wrote:
Is there a preferred aspect ratio for panoramas? Or is it too dependent on how the panorama was created? I've never tried to get a panorama printed, so I don't know, but I've been wondering lately.
Personally I would crop to whatever looks right. A lab standard is 10x20, but that is just barely a pano, IMO.
Thanks, Cap'nC. I've noticed that some print companies do non-standard sizes and some don't. I've found that an aggressive panoramic crop can save a shot that was otherwise too sparse.
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