Dumb Question
Nov 30, 2011 05:48:05 #
Seems to imply that real photographers don't know or care about art and it is not necessary to photography. This seems to me a grave mistake. Laws of composition, color, tone, etc are purely visual and an artistic knowledge, even if it is intuitional is required for any good photograph, no matter how realistic. Photography with only great skill in camera technique is misguided. I do not distinguish between art and photography, they just use different mediums to achieve an image.
This sounds like the same old argument that occurs in the
"Art" world between realism and the more expressive schools of impressionism or abstraction, each accusing the other of not being "real art".
This sounds like the same old argument that occurs in the
"Art" world between realism and the more expressive schools of impressionism or abstraction, each accusing the other of not being "real art".
RowdyBlue wrote:
I totally agree with you, Kylemc99.
Kylemc99 wrote:
Photoshop is good when u want to be artistic. But for the most of us we prefer to capture everything on camera. Its about composition, lighting, and taking your time and getting everything right
I totally agree with you, Kylemc99.
Nov 30, 2011 05:50:36 #
Old Timer
Loc: Greenfield, In.
A good example: the question on raw come up ever day and the same question and when the read the reply that do no read it again till the understand it. Buy a good manual and keep it with you. That is the way I am learning. Practice observe , observe and practice. I am like ever one else a little dense and then the light finally comes on, was that what they were talking about.
Nov 30, 2011 06:03:19 #
usaellie101
Loc: Spring Hill, Florida
HI there... As you can see your "Dumb Question" was not so dumb after all. Honestly there are no dumb questions here. We ara all here to share and learn with each other.
Most of us agree with you that there could be a seperate entity involving digital software. Once you get to know the basics you'll be clicking onto the photo editing program of your choice with little thought. I can give you some thing to think about... It isn't the software that makes a photo inspiring and memorable. It's the moment a shot is taken and how it touches us emotionally. Light! I suggest you learn as much as you can about light, low light , sunlight, night light, light you create and how your camera operates with these different light levels.
We all need to keep asking questions.
Life is a learning experience.
Most of us agree with you that there could be a seperate entity involving digital software. Once you get to know the basics you'll be clicking onto the photo editing program of your choice with little thought. I can give you some thing to think about... It isn't the software that makes a photo inspiring and memorable. It's the moment a shot is taken and how it touches us emotionally. Light! I suggest you learn as much as you can about light, low light , sunlight, night light, light you create and how your camera operates with these different light levels.
We all need to keep asking questions.
Life is a learning experience.
Midnight Bloom
Nov 30, 2011 06:08:34 #
usaellie101
Loc: Spring Hill, Florida
usaellie101 wrote:
HI there... As you can see your "Dumb Questio... (show quote)
Ducks in Tampa Bay
Nov 30, 2011 07:25:39 #
screen48 wrote:
I am new to digital, well photography in general. ... (show quote)
To answer your question, I haven't seen many 'How-to" software Q's on these boards. There is a lot of software mentioned, but not a lot of in-depth discussion.
The software most mentioned is PS-Elements.
Nov 30, 2011 07:54:53 #
Danilo,
I think your answer is a whole hearted, honest and considerate reply and I agree with you sincerely. I don't feel that this question could have been answered any better then your post. Thank you so much and , yes, any topic started would definitely receive some good replies. Have a great day Danilo!!
I think your answer is a whole hearted, honest and considerate reply and I agree with you sincerely. I don't feel that this question could have been answered any better then your post. Thank you so much and , yes, any topic started would definitely receive some good replies. Have a great day Danilo!!
Nov 30, 2011 08:05:36 #
Yes its the new darkroom. But I'm from the old school. Use to pick up your prints from the photo-mart. Look though them toss the bad ones, keep the good ones and keep on shooting. Alot cheaper today. But you can do alot with those programs. Alot of fun stuff too. Good luck
Nov 30, 2011 08:31:40 #
screen48,
To accomplish what you would like to see is a suggestion for those who operate this website. My suggestion is to scroll down to the very bottom of any page you're on and click on the "Contact Us" link. Tell them your idea and see what the response will be. Other than that, have you tried the "Search" link at the top of the page? Simply type in what you're hunting for, maybe in two or three different ways, and see what comes up. For now, that would be the only way you would see any groupings about Adobe or any other brand. Hope this helps.
To accomplish what you would like to see is a suggestion for those who operate this website. My suggestion is to scroll down to the very bottom of any page you're on and click on the "Contact Us" link. Tell them your idea and see what the response will be. Other than that, have you tried the "Search" link at the top of the page? Simply type in what you're hunting for, maybe in two or three different ways, and see what comes up. For now, that would be the only way you would see any groupings about Adobe or any other brand. Hope this helps.
Nov 30, 2011 08:35:04 #
screen48 wrote:
I am new to digital, well photography in general. ... (show quote)
I agree with your thoughts and would like to see it as well. It would be better than searching for specifics. I'll bet the founder/administrator of this site had no idea that there would be over 10,000 registered users sharing so many ideas. All things evolve and in time I'll bet this site's categories will too.
Nov 30, 2011 08:51:39 #
I use Picnik all the time, it's easy to use and has some great features.
Nov 30, 2011 09:16:58 #
screen48 wrote:
I am new to digital, well photography in general. ... (show quote)
I would like to see two additional topic areas one for processing and one for finishing. So you have my support.
Nov 30, 2011 09:25:35 #
Linda Lee wrote:
I would like to see two additional topic areas one for processing and one for finishing. So you have my support.
Linda Lee: You're right, as usual. I would also like to see a section dedicated to photo restoration. Of course, each of these sections should be Gnu Rule Free Zones where any mentor would be authorized for teaching purposes to edit any posted work, but would also need to tell us what software he used, and the editing procedure in sufficient detail so that even a new user could duplicate the edit.
Nov 30, 2011 09:43:52 #
catcher T wrote:
I have and am guilty of thumbing thru the directions (the thick book that came with my camera) your exactly right about reading the directions!
This is really off the subject but here goes. Most manufacturers have on their websites, in the support area, free downloads of manuals for their products, usually in PDF format. It is far easier for me to read one of these manuals on my computer screen than to read the fine print of one of these paper manuals. On the screen, one of these manuals can be resized and searched with ease. I keep the paper manual in my camera bag in case I need to look up something in the field.
Ken
Nov 30, 2011 10:28:06 #
Digital cameras and post production programs (PP) selections are all over the place and are personal choices. If you a beginner start with the free programs. Gimp and Pecasa are a couple and get your feet wet on the PP side. Then if you want to optain a higher quatlity of PP programs, you can go to the internet and obtain free PP programs for a limited time period on various Adobe programs. All of this will keep occupied for a while. The best method is "learn by doing", join a camera club that help beginners ...and then just enjoy.
Nov 30, 2011 11:00:54 #
nejanet
Loc: Nebraska
All I can say is WOW....
If my skills with the camera were perfect I would be making money at it instead of just reading about it......I will never be perfect and I may get some good shots but sometimes I need to or want to do something, change something, crop, resize, remove a pimple from my granddaughters nose....lol
I use Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop Elements, I am not perfect with those either....so I Googled PSP forums and found one that I really liked that had people using these products.... they have a section for each software and they are always very helpful...
That said the photo classes I took each time the instructor said the thing we had to do is blow the dust off the book that came with the camera and read in front to back.....and do the same the next week....and he is a pro...I have read mine twice I swear things were added that I didn't see the first time....
But digital for the most part is free so take a shot with different settings and whatever as long as you have the light and see what YOU like..maybe it needs a tweak or maybe not...
If my skills with the camera were perfect I would be making money at it instead of just reading about it......I will never be perfect and I may get some good shots but sometimes I need to or want to do something, change something, crop, resize, remove a pimple from my granddaughters nose....lol
I use Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop Elements, I am not perfect with those either....so I Googled PSP forums and found one that I really liked that had people using these products.... they have a section for each software and they are always very helpful...
That said the photo classes I took each time the instructor said the thing we had to do is blow the dust off the book that came with the camera and read in front to back.....and do the same the next week....and he is a pro...I have read mine twice I swear things were added that I didn't see the first time....
But digital for the most part is free so take a shot with different settings and whatever as long as you have the light and see what YOU like..maybe it needs a tweak or maybe not...
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