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Whats wrong with this picture?
Feb 15, 2013 16:44:26 #
Feb 15, 2013 17:28:36 #
If there two seperate pictures? and contain different pixel counts (Sizes) then this would account for the proportional distortion. How ever a wide angle lens can cause similar distortion.
If it's a cut out made by selecting the subject it's a good job however the top of her hair doesn't appear smooth, it's choppy if you look close?
when making selections in photoshop the hair is very difficult.
If it's a cut out made by selecting the subject it's a good job however the top of her hair doesn't appear smooth, it's choppy if you look close?
when making selections in photoshop the hair is very difficult.
Feb 15, 2013 17:40:39 #
floral43 wrote:
If there two seperate pictures? and contain different pixel counts (Sizes) then this would account for the proportional distortion. How ever a wide angle lens can cause similar distortion.
If it's a cut out made by selecting the subject it's a good job however the top of her hair doesn't appear smooth, it's choppy if you look close?
when making selections in photoshop the hair is very difficult.
If it's a cut out made by selecting the subject it's a good job however the top of her hair doesn't appear smooth, it's choppy if you look close?
when making selections in photoshop the hair is very difficult.
Agree with you completely~Whats scary, is this is how the pic came out of the camera :)
If I were to do this in PhotoShop, I would have changed the brightness and contrast on either the background or body first, then changed the proportions of the head before merging the layers. Then I would have probly added a glow around the head making it difficult to see the edges of the hair, and probly added a beach and a palm tree to the foreground giving her some perspective .right now she looks huge compared to that ocean :)
Feb 15, 2013 20:25:54 #
floral43 wrote:
If there two seperate pictures? and contain different pixel counts (Sizes) then this would account for the proportional distortion. How ever a wide angle lens can cause similar distortion.
If it's a cut out made by selecting the subject it's a good job however the top of her hair doesn't appear smooth, it's choppy if you look close?
when making selections in photoshop the hair is very difficult.
If it's a cut out made by selecting the subject it's a good job however the top of her hair doesn't appear smooth, it's choppy if you look close?
when making selections in photoshop the hair is very difficult.
It does look to me like two separate pictures. You can see the pixels in her right side of the hair bordering the water. Even if the picture were superimposed on the background, the subject herself was a bad choice because of the over-convergence distortion that made the right side of her face and upper body and her right ear to look very large. This is to be expected when using a wide-angle lens on a close object. It becomes grotesquely evident when using the even greater convergence of a fish-eye lens. In my little demo of the image, you may notice the smaller ear and right face, but it is far from ideal. To correct over-convergence on an image with post-processing cannot achieve perfect results.
Feb 15, 2013 22:13:38 #
BermBuster wrote:
Take 5, I really enjoyed your comments-because you... (show quote)
I've read this whole thread and found it quite informative. My main question was why the flash did not bring out any details in the very dark shirt. Are there details in the CR2 that simply didn't make it into the .jpg?
Feb 15, 2013 22:36:40 #
BermBuster wrote:
Sad thing is, I probly told him to use flash if he wanted to expose on the sunset AND capture the portrait, or else he would end up with a silhouette.
Sad thing is, I probly told him to use flash if he wanted to expose on the sunset AND capture the portrait, or else he would end up with a silhouette.
Nahhh don't feel bad. Mistakes happen. What puzzles me, if this were done in place is why are the arm shadows dark and not warm with the red sunset shining directly on them - doesn't make sense. It is possible that the flash as SO overpowering that it was say - 5-6 stops brighter than the sunset and even that flash overpowered the suns backlit effect on the hair and arms? Possible. . . This is becoming a discovery challenge and I almost want to try to duplicate it to see if I can do the same - ooops that won't work. I don't own a flash ! :)
Will someone please try to do this and report back to us boys who are getting tight stomach muscles, wrinkled foreheads, and eating too many roll-aids. Then tension is killing me!
Cheers,
Take 5
Feb 16, 2013 13:15:15 #
Take 5 Cinema wrote:
What puzzles me, if this were done in place is wh... (show quote)
picpiper wrote:
why the flash did not bring out any details in the very dark shirt. Are there details in the CR2 that simply didn't make it into the .jpg?
I know his flash is pretty powerful-but at 24mm I would expect her to be lit up like a christmas tree.
I talked to my cousin, and found this was taken outside off a hotel balcony, he purposely pointed the flash above her head to keep from blasting her.
This may explain why no other details but her face are lit but doesn't explain what happened to the backlight of the sun ???
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Feb 16, 2013 16:44:52 #
BermBuster wrote:
I know his flash is pretty powerful-but at 24mm I would expect her to be lit up like a christmas tree.
I talked to my cousin, and found this was taken outside off a hotel balcony, he purposely pointed the flash above her head to keep from blasting her.
This may explain why no other details but her face are lit but doesn't explain what happened to the backlight of the sun ???
I know his flash is pretty powerful-but at 24mm I would expect her to be lit up like a christmas tree.
I talked to my cousin, and found this was taken outside off a hotel balcony, he purposely pointed the flash above her head to keep from blasting her.
This may explain why no other details but her face are lit but doesn't explain what happened to the backlight of the sun ???
Direction of flash would be identified by the shadow position. As it is now, the shadows are such that the flash is a direct hit with the flash barely above and to the left of the lens. I say this was a direct over powering flash shot, with blue sunlight flash (5500K) against a warm sunset (3200k or less). The camera was set somewhere between the WB of the sunset - nice warm natural colors and the harsh blue / white light of the flash. So the result is an exposure correct for the sunset which looks great and the blue / white light of the flash in reduced output, but throws the color balance way off.
I still have no idea why there is no rim lighting on the girl from the sunset. Someone will have to try it and see if they can duplicate it - hey wait a minute - I do have an old Sony H9 with flash - well I'll be damned - I can use that - Ok will get back to ya - uhhhh - wait a minute - it's cloudy today. Oh shit!
Cheers,
Take 5
Dec 16, 2013 14:11:43 #
Hi Bermbuster! I was looking for more photos of your grandkids when I came across this one of your second cousin (once removed? I never could figure all of that out). Anyway, to rescue this photo, I simply lightened her face and shirt, and then cropped it to remove the awkward arm position. Better?
BermBuster wrote:
I'm just not sure what is going on here, My cousin took this picture of his daughter in Hawaii-It seems as if she has been photoshopped into the picture..or maybe her head is too big?
Maybe the sun behind her - Or too close at 24mm caused this?
What do you guys(gals) think?
Canon rebel XSi, 18-55 lens at 24mm,aperture at f/14,with a Nikor Flash.
Maybe the sun behind her - Or too close at 24mm caused this?
What do you guys(gals) think?
Canon rebel XSi, 18-55 lens at 24mm,aperture at f/14,with a Nikor Flash.
Dec 16, 2013 14:36:05 #
Mormorazzi wrote:
Hi Bermbuster! I was looking for more photos of your grandkids when I came across this one of your second cousin (once removed? I never could figure all of that out). Anyway, to rescue this photo, I simply lightened her face and shirt, and then cropped it to remove the awkward arm position. Better?
Fantastic! I'll forward this to them. I'm sure they will love it. Thanks!
Dec 16, 2013 14:39:54 #
I'm not sure if you still have the original jpeg, but if you do, reload the photo and check "store original," and I'll get an adjusted large file back to you in case they'd like to print it.
BermBuster wrote:
Fantastic! I'll forward this to them. I'm sure they will love it. Thanks!
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Dec 16, 2013 14:56:16 #
Mormorazzi wrote:
I'm not sure if you still have the original jpeg, but if you do, reload the photo and check "store original," and I'll get an adjusted large file back to you in case they'd like to print it.
I lost the original - so I sent an e-mail to my cousin for another -Thanks again
Dec 16, 2013 15:04:36 #
BermBuster wrote:
I'm just not sure what is going on here, My cousin took this picture of his daughter in Hawaii-It seems as if she has been photoshopped into the picture..or maybe her head is too big?
Maybe the sun behind her - Or too close at 24mm caused this?
What do you guys(gals) think?
Canon rebel XSi, 18-55 lens at 24mm,aperture at f/14,with a Nikor Flash.
Maybe the sun behind her - Or too close at 24mm caused this?
What do you guys(gals) think?
Canon rebel XSi, 18-55 lens at 24mm,aperture at f/14,with a Nikor Flash.
The back of her Hair tells me thia was selected and placed in photoshop Hair should have fine detail on it's ends, not so with this photo it appears to be squared off. also the image is under exposed and blacked out in key areas.
Dec 16, 2013 15:18:13 #
floral43 wrote:
The back of her Hair tells me thia was selected and placed in photoshop Hair should have fine detail on it's ends, not so with this photo it appears to be squared off. also the image is under exposed and blacked out in key areas.
I would have agreed...sure looks that way...but I "had" the original raw image ..sent to me moments from the shot being taken, from someone I know..who had no idea how to use Photoshop. That's why I posted this..how in the world could this have come straight out of the camera this way?
I think now it was a combination of lens distortion..and lighting technique
Dec 16, 2013 19:09:52 #
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