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Feb 11, 2013 08:19:46   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
Al FR-153 is absolutely right.
At my age a tilting screen is essential.
In Nature photography, subjects such as fungi and orchids are commonly at ground level, where I find it impossible to get my eye behind a viewfinder.
Also the tilting finder allows the camera to be used in crowds, raised above neighbouring heads.
Sneakily, for candid photography, the feature can be useful in deceiving one's subject as to your point of interest.
A tilting screen is as desirable in a 'serious' camera as a viewfinder is in a 'compact'.
It should be noted that not all tilting screens can be reversed for protection.
Would a 'non -screen' advocate please say how they would photograph an insect, for example, at ground level?

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Feb 11, 2013 11:08:58   #
rrforster12 Loc: Leesburg Florida
 
It is my opinion that a Electronic View Finder is a far more important feature then a articulating LCD. Best of all worlds would be to have both, but if a choice had to be made I would definitely opt for the EVF.

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Feb 11, 2013 11:24:33   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
If it was such a must have feature would not the new pro-line cameras have them?

Canon just launched the 5DMKIII - no articulating screen.
Canon's 6D - no articulating screen
Nikon D600 - no articulating screen

There has to be a reason their pro-line cameras are not show boating this feature?

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Feb 11, 2013 11:42:08   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
Al FR-153 wrote:
I have the Canon 60D and a back-up of the Canon S5IS. The articulated LCD is the EXACT reason I went with the 60D over the 7D or others. I like to shoot low, and high. I am also 70 years old and don't get into that low or high position very well anymore. The LCD is fantastic for allowing me that option.

Yes, the LCD on both of mine folds 'closed' against the body, but can also be set to look just like any of those that are not articulated, with the LCD screen facing the user. The not-articulated screens are just that, they DO NOT move.

In general, yes, I agree with the assessment that not having the articulated screen is a minus. I gave up a couple other features for the articulation, but certainly not sorry that I did.
I have the Canon 60D and a back-up of the Canon S5... (show quote)


The NON-articulated screens come in 2 styles. One is fixed on the back of the camera and the other is a "tilting" screen that allows the screen to tilt up or down but will not permit it to flip out to the side for viewing from the front.

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Feb 11, 2013 12:25:06   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
wilbur wrote:
In viewing Snapshot's comparisons, they list a non articulating LCD as a minus. My question is, how important is that feature to you advanced photographers? And also, if a camera, generally speaking, is non articulating , can the LCD be turned into the body so as to protect it from scratches e.t.c. ? Thank you for sharing your expertise with amateurs like myself.
If you will permit, do you generally agree with Consumer's Report assessment on cameras ? If not, who would you suggest looking at for the same kind of information ? Thanks again, Wilbur.
In viewing Snapshot's comparisons, they list a non... (show quote)


The only reason I might buy one with articulating screen is if I do a lot of composing higher than my head and down by my feet. I can see an advantage under those conditions if a person is lazy or if a person has disabilities and can't bend or climb a ladder. (both of which I have trouble with)

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Feb 11, 2013 13:01:05   #
Daryl New Loc: Wellington,New Zealand
 
We reluctantly sold our Canon S3 IS,needed money.We found it great for over head shots of crowds.You get more faces in view.So will have to take a small step ladder for same result....Cheers

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Feb 11, 2013 13:42:47   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
I still await a description of how to take a ground level shot with a fixed screen camera.
Further more, do you think that the major manufacturers design cameras for YOUR benefit?

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Feb 11, 2013 13:51:15   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Griff wrote:
I still await a description of how to take a ground level shot with a fixed screen camera.
Further more, do you think that the major manufacturers design cameras for YOUR benefit?


"I still await a description of how to take a ground level shot with a fixed screen camera."

Ahhhhhh lay on the ground :?:

"Further more, do you think that the major manufacturers design cameras for YOUR benefit?"

Ahhhhhhh - Yes. If they made things that people didn't want, then nobody would buy them. So they have to make products that benefit people so they will buy them. I know that Canon listens to people. So does Adobe. I've listened to manufacturers reps talk about the long awaited upgrade and so on.

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Feb 11, 2013 13:51:24   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
Griff wrote:
I still await a description of how to take a ground level shot with a fixed screen camera.
Further more, do you think that the major manufacturers design cameras for YOUR benefit?


the same way people did it back in the film days, place camera down on ground, lower body so you can look thru viewfinder (lay on ground if need be), compose shot, meter, focus and press the shutter button. Done.

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Feb 11, 2013 14:03:03   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
Could I have a photograph of some intrepid photographer executing this manoeuvre , preferably in wet grass?
Back in the 'old days' people used a Rt. angle finder.

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Feb 11, 2013 14:48:34   #
wilbur
 
Again thanks for everyones in put. It is amazing how helpful you folks are to some one they don't even know. Wilbur

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Feb 11, 2013 14:54:23   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
Griff wrote:
Could I have a photograph of some intrepid photographer executing this manoeuvre , preferably in wet grass?
Back in the 'old days' people used a Rt. angle finder.


I do it almost ever session I have outside. When did laying down on grass become such a bad thing? Unless of course you are too old to get down that low, then maybe it's time to switch up your photography style and only shot images from a standing position.

quick google search resulted in:

http://wvs.topleftpixel.com/photos/2010/03/bronte-harbour_reza_lying-down_01.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3165/2542388563_8749fbd37c_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4186360203_7cc54e30e5.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l170/ugwug/visualwords/phototaking2.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1112/5105867175_7180571fa5.jpg

http://static.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/IMG_2883.JPG

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/yanc/yanc0803/yanc080300102/2752718-paparazzi-photographer-hiding-on-the-ground-to-get-shot.jpg

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Feb 11, 2013 15:36:05   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
Thank you, but I bet they wished they had a tilting screen. . .



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Feb 11, 2013 16:22:01   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
Wahawk wrote:
I really don't know why anyone would want a NON-articulating LCD. This allows you to swivel it around and tuck it into the camera body for protection, or have it facing forward for use during self-portraits or group photos. It also make low or high angle shots easier, and makes it very easy to eliminate all glare.

I would not want to be without the articulating screen on MY camera!!


I agree with Wahawk. I have an articulating screen on mt D5100' and a fixed screen on my "walkabout" G12. While I admittedly don't use it much, being a viewfinder kind of person, it has allowed me to get some shots that would have had my aging body moaning for days. I also like the ability to fold it in face down, as scratches get reduced, etc.

Murray

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Feb 11, 2013 16:24:45   #
Murray Loc: New Westminster
 
Not a grey hair in the lot!

Murray

PS where is it written that we have to change styles as we age.....use the tools - including articulating screens.

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