Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

How do you intend to stop me or my rights from Butcherin' your babies? Better get yourself a gun to protect those babies - but then you are against gun rights - so it is you who is going to let those babies be butchered. Don't you see how dumb all this is? Your are fighting against your own rights. Whats next? your right to free speech? Your right to vote? It is your rights as well as mine!

Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert

Hey Doc ..... you making this up or did you read it somewhere

Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert

Hey Doc ..... all raspberries ..... I now question anything you post

WildBill Loc: South West Florida

Yes it does. It includes everything and that is the problem... If only murders were represented (not suicides, self defense, police force, etc, liberals would have a big problem trying to sway anyone to their side. Funny how they include unrelated stats when talking guns but quickly dismiss actual facts when defending their position. That is why conservative radio and tv is called bias by them, only the liberal side is allowed to be argued or you are a baby killing moron and lack the intellect to have a gun... Arguing with a liberal is pointless other than someone undecided may see how unfounded the argument against guns is.

Robert G Loc: Raised in Oh. & Ky. live in Az now

"You need to research the NRA, They have fought background checks at Gun Shows tooth and Nail. When Your so called rights Butcher our Babies, you Damn right have a Fight!!!!!

Reddog"


My rights did NOT butcher anyones babies ! ! Those were the actions of a psychopath, in which wear lies the cause of the problems. You can take away the guns but the psychos will still be there. We as a society need to address the REAL problem, and thats identifying and preventing these sick people from being able act on there ill will. Most often these people are "missed" even after years of showing signs that were overlooked by family memebers,friends,
school officials, the police, court authorities, and mental heatlth care workers. So if you REALLY want to stop the problem then go to where the problem lies, with us as a society for failing to protect ourselves from such people, We need to identify, isolate and restrict these poeple from acting on there missions of mayhem.

Scubie Loc: Brunswick Georgia

In every country where the guns were confiscated, crime went up. Example Austrailia..crime up 66% Funny thing!!!! when someone kills someone the idiot control freaks want to take the guns from those who didn't do it.

Scubie Loc: Brunswick Georgia

Scubie Loc: Brunswick Georgia

I will say this...Maybe if every teacher had a 38 special on his belt or purse, maybe some of those precious children could have been saved. Taking away the guns is not the answer....background checks are needed...remember this the freak who killed those children and teachers at Sandy Hook stole the guns from his mother, before he killed her.

Robert G Loc: Raised in Oh. & Ky. live in Az now

Amen Scubie,

Gnslngr

Nope. You're wrong. Well, you're right but your context is wrong. First, Australians never had a right to own a gun - ownership was restricted to those with an occupational need, members of government approved sporting clubs, hunters and collectors. And when the government began it's buyback program, in 1997, it only really applied to pump-action and semi-automatic weapons. Those with a legitimate need to own those types of weapons can still get a government permit.

Given that context, anyone that posits that gun control was the cause of an increased crime rate is suspect - the vast, vast majority of Australians could not and did not own a gun prior to the buyback program. The figures used to prove the point you are trying to make are from the year immediately after the buyback - the program had not completely taken effect.

Sorry, but gun control does not cause crime. :thumbup:

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Nor does gun control prevent it, so why create new government laws. 8-)

Gnslngr

Sorry, but it does prevent it. But it must be universal - not restricted to one city or state, but nationwide. And it needn't be all-inclusive. Rifles and shotguns (which are far, far more efficient at home protection than a revolver or other handgun) should remain legalized for hunters and sportsmen. Handguns, because of their easily concealed nature, would be better off banned along with assault-style weaponry and semi-automatic rifles, guns, etc.

I am aware you don't agree with me. Nonetheless, I consider that proposal a reasonable one. Unfortunately, the activist SCOTUS has made my proposal moot. :thumbup:

Scubie Loc: Brunswick Georgia

Ok I stand corrected..I checked your info and are right.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Actually, I do agree with you now, as you stated, we are "wasting our time."
:thumbup:

I am responsible for boldface below.



Above quote from:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-92286-1.html

Gnslngr

First, let me thank you. It is so gratifying to know that someone is so enamored of my opinions that they have catalogued them and can recall them with enough specificity to pull them up at a moment's notice. I am glad that you hang on my every word; you may learn something yet. That said, the quote you have used is, in fact, my own. However, after discussing this very important issue with an expert in the field I have changed my mind - we are not now, nor are we likely to be in the first part of this century, at a place where a 3d printer would be capable of making an automatic weapon. Therefore, gun control becomes a possibility and, to my mind, a necessity.

Playing games of oneupmanship is fun, but it is something one does when as a third grader and gives up as an adult. Both in the thread you cite and this one, you have not posited a cogent opinion. You merely, as you do all over this forum, want to pretend you're back in grammar school and thus, you use the tactics of a child. Frankly, it's unbecoming - you should know you look like less than a man (or woman, if that's what you are) and more like a little boy or girl.

Note that I am unafraid to learn, and through that newly acquired knowledge, change my mind. Would that you had the maturity to do the same. :thumbup: