Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.

Come to New York State and see what Governor Cuomo has foisted upon us - all in the political name of beating President Obama to the punch by one day. Cuomo wants to be President in 2016.
Oh, and if you do come to NYS leave your guns at home - registered or not.

rrforster12 Loc: Leesburg Florida

There is a inconvenient fact that just won't go away: the city's and states that have enacted the most stringent gun control laws have the worst crime records. Chicago, Washington DC, etc. Just keep in mind that it's the people behind the guns that are the real problem. A gun is just a tool and would be replaced by some other tool if one is really bent on killing. If we rounded up every single gun that is owned by this country's citizens, the bad guys would still have guns and be infinitely more powerful due to the fact they don't need to be concerned about meeting someone with an "equalizer". Consider Mexico's experience. Their gun laws are draconian but the murder and violence rates are off the charts.

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

GOOD this is exactly why the second amendment was put in place- it is there to protect all the other individual rights we have, as without it, there is nothing we can say if they decide to take them away. Do you think the prisoners ( I mean the general public) of North Korea would be eating grass if they had ANY rights at all? Especially if they had a second amendment. Once you give up the second amendment, what will you do if they decide to take away any of the others? yell? whoops- that is a first amendment right that will be the first they take away AFTER the second... You'll go to jail- t like they do in China, or Iran, or any of a multitude of countries.



People with knives kill more people with knives... Google China... Killers it would seem, are intelligent enough to find a weapon. The lovely guy in Rochester NY who ambushed the firefighters, was let out of prison where he was doing time for killing his grand mother... with a hammer. He beat her so bad they had to use dental records to identify her... yet the liberals in this state saw fit to let him out.... It was their fault the firefighters died.



This is how statistics lie... mass shootings happen because there was no one to stop them. Thus if someone is stopped, lets say after they shot one, there was no mass shooting- but that doesn't count as a mass shooting! Even though they may have intended to do so.


This is all crap...

RustyEire

[quote=Danilo]. . . .
Ole sarg, it's YOUR Constitution, also! You once took an oath.
What's going to happen in YOUR world when they start coming after the 1st Amendment? The Constitution was created for the sole purpose of restricting government, they are SUPPOSED to feel confined by it. It makes sense that a government bent on an ever expanding platform would hate the Constitution! That's exactly the time WE need to be grateful to have it protecting us.

It makes no difference whether I want 7 rounds or 30 rounds, or 2000 rounds. If I'm a law abiding citizen and can afford it, I'm entitled to own these things, should I wish to. If you don't want to own these things, you are not compelled to. That, my friend, is what freedom is about.[quote]

Sorry, Danilo, but the Constitution was NOT created for the "sole purpose of restricting government." I'd suggest that you read the document before interpreting it. The Constitutution creates government, sets up the framework for government, what it will consist of, how it will operate, how it will be funded, how it will be defended, who will run it. Sure, there are restrictions in it, guaranteeing our freedoms---but curiously enough the bulk of those guarantees are in amendments to the Constitution, not in the main body of the document itself. And for the umpteenth time, those advocating stricter gun control are not trying to deprive you of your guns---if they were they would then be attempting to infringe upon your 2nd amendment rights. But as your own Main Man on the Supreme Court, Antonin Scalia, has unambiguously indicated in his opinion holding that the 2nd amendment does guarantee an individual citizen the right to bear arms (an interpretation that I, and a goodly number of constitutional scholars, happen to disagree with---but courtesy of the Court's decision, an interpretation that is the law of the land): that right is not absolute and is subject to reasonable restrictions. It's the reasonable restrictions part of the Supreme Court holding that the NRA, Mr. LaPierre, and apparently you, too, Danilo, seem to have forgotten about or choose deliberately to ignore. The 2nd amendment does NOT guarantee you your right to bear arms by placing an 80mm artillery piece in your backyard for "home defense." Those of us appalled by all the carnage created by the repeated massacres-by-Bushmaster are not saying "Take away all the guns!" We're simply pleading for REASON in the ownership, use, and sale of guns.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

again more BS..assuming in a home invasion you need more than 9 rounds..are you saying that home invasions only have 1 person trying to kill you & your kids..are you saying that you are that good of a marksman...
really , you are too full of yourself

Kuma

The war on Drugs is a disaster. Tell me, why do you thinkk it will be more successful when the government wages a war on guns?

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

Reasonable it should be, not a knee jerk reaction. Guns are not the problem, violence, criminal element & Mental Health issues are the "problems" that need to be addressed. Plus proper enforcement of existing laws.

[quote=RustyEire][quote=Danilo]. . . .
Ole sarg, it's YOUR Constitution, also! You once took an oath.
What's going to happen in YOUR world when they start coming after the 1st Amendment? The Constitution was created for the sole purpose of restricting government, they are SUPPOSED to feel confined by it. It makes sense that a government bent on an ever expanding platform would hate the Constitution! That's exactly the time WE need to be grateful to have it protecting us.

It makes no difference whether I want 7 rounds or 30 rounds, or 2000 rounds. If I'm a law abiding citizen and can afford it, I'm entitled to own these things, should I wish to. If you don't want to own these things, you are not compelled to. That, my friend, is what freedom is about.

gasmandon Loc: Bentleyville, PA

We don't need that kind of language. Just what part of the gun-bearing "polite society" do you come from?

Zenith701 Loc: Southern California

Did you even read what you wrote? It doesn't make sense. The rate of gun ownership in Idaho is much greater than in California but you would have us believe that the Idaho homicide rate is higher than California. I have no numbers but, come on, you know that isn't true.

One other thing. The term homicide gets thrown around a lot. When one gang banger kills another gang banger that's not a homicide, that's a public service. When a potential victim kills her attacker, that's not a homicide, that's taking out the trash. When the police shoot and kill an armed bank robber, that is just saving the tax payers money.

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

All these statistics show the total number of homicides, but you need to take away the number of homicides by Law Enforcement officers for a more accurate statistic. After all, their gun statistics will cloud the figures attributed to average citizens (or should I say criminals & deranged individuals). People who commit suicide need to be deleted from the figures as well, as without a gun, they would simply employ another method.....Anti-gun groups don't want these or any other exemptions though as it would weaken their case...

heyrob Loc: Western Washington

Yup, more liberal BS. I just have to respond to #2 though. Read this... http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/

While this is now 5 years old, the statistics hold true today. FACT: More guns, less crime. Deal with it!

papayanirvana Loc: Kauai

... oh sure, Sarge, next you'll be telling me my cigs are bad for me.





FACT: If there is a gun in the house, the people in that house have a higher chance of getting shot.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

Love it! :thumbup:

ole sarg Loc: south florida

BW326 I find it interesting that the two of us who have been in fire fights seem to agree and the chicken hawks seem to be at odds with us!

To the Others: The citation for the article is there by the author. Where it came from makes no difference the numbers are there. If you think they are wrong prove it!

Yes, I do have a permit and seldom leave without my weapon, but then again because of what I do I am a potential target.

Additionally, I have extensive training in fire arms. I find it interesting that most gun shows and gun stores people are always point a gun they are considering buying at someone! You never point any gun at anyone!

Old country druggist: Not myths. Myths are things that are made up. Those are actual numbers. You think they are myths prove it!

Danilo: There are lots of laws that violate the Constitution the first being freedom of speech does not give one the right to yell fire in a theater! So you argument is specious at best.....

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

Hey Sarg, I wouldn't say myth, but I would say someone's cherry picking their facts !!