Who considers themselves an "Advanced Amatuer"?
i hear you on the health issues. i traveled for 21/2 hrs. to go to a state park here in pa. that boasts of having over 20 individual waterfalls in it(rickett's glen state park),all of which you have to hike to get to , of course. i made it to the 1st one & shot that & that was it. all in physcally due to C.O.P.D. & diabetes that causes neuophathy in my feet to where i feel like i'm walking on 2 big, numb cushions. i've always loved waterfalls & would have loved to shoot more but i just couldn't.
I'm on my way! I carry my gear with me everyday looking for interesting shots. Most of my shots are well liked by those who see them but I'm still striving to increase my yield - about 75% of my shots are keepers and the rest are not.
Guess I'll have to say advanced amature with film cameera but novice with digital. Even though I got paid to do weddings, etc. back in the old days I never considered myself a pro and I told the customers that I had, that I was not a pro. I believe that a pro can demand lots of money for their work and maybe have a commercial type studio and make their living doing photography.
well I can make toast and fry an egg ....does that make me a chef... last year I could not spell photograpy but now I can does that make one ...
Why do people get so excited about titles ????
welcome to "the club" but just "keep sailing on and on" as there's no real other choice.
matt
Hobbist Photographer, Novice computer guy.
Upgrading is a slow process.
I don't know? I never sold a photo. Been in and out of photography since the 70's. Had my own dark room and own 4x5 studio camera and enlarger. Did work for friends free. Took all of Fred Pickers Zone 6 lessons. Worked out and understood Ansel Adams zone system with tri x pan. Left photography for a few years went thru several nikon 35mm cameras and one Hasselblat. Got 20 or so pictures I felt were decent. Back into photography passionately a year ago. Love digital for its flexibility and the wealth of knowledge here and other places to learn. If old age don't get me I hope to publish some day. Does it make me advanced. I don't know and don't care. I am just glad to be doing it. povdov
On the antlers of a dilemma
I know where I've been, and I know where I'd like to end up. Getting there...well, it's a journey that's probably never ending but sure has been fun. I guess I would consider myself an amateur. I don't know how advanced anyone would consider me. I think I have advanced a lot but always lots of room for improvement. lol
I am a Pro when doing Weddings & People. But I know many amateurs that know lots more than I do about other areas of photography. Anyway I think that when you capture what you have in your head and it comes out (now useing both camera and computer) as you saw it you are well on your way of be "advanced" - Dave
I think I understand what you are getting at here. I don't believe it's how long you've been shooting in general, but how long you've been shooting and have the understanding on how to get what you have envisioned and producing those results.
It's not the years under your belt; it's getting the results you want with reasonable consistency. I get lucky with a shot now and then but I am no where near the consistency I'd like in order to elevate myself to advanced amateur; but I'm not a beginner in a sense, because I do understand the elements of getting and producing a good photograph. Just haven't got there yet! :D
If I were to categorize myself, I would still consider myself in the beginner division; perhaps intermediate beginner.
If I pay some kid to play marbles, does that make him a professional? Does professional mean that you are good or just getting paid for it.
I got my first 35mm in the 50's and had a Kodak 120 before that. I have had photos used on record album ccvers, paperback book covers, international advertising, major industrial expositions, etc.
Does that make me pro? My living is generated by engineering work in the oil industry. My photography is a major hobby. I have been paid for many weddings because they like my work, but I did not need it for income. Have shot just as many weddings as a gift to the bride in lew of buying the couple a frying pan or toaster.
Some consider me great, some laugh and walk away.
I consider myself amateur with a lot of pro equipment.
The only standard is this: If you get paid for your photos consistently, you are considered a professional. And before I get a torrent of negative comments about that, let me say this: Just like any other profession, there are good doctors and bad doctors. There are bad attorneys and there are... nevermind, I won't go there.
I don't believe there is any standard for newbie or serious amateur. I consider myself a serious amateur, because after 40+ years of messing with cameras, I sometimes still make newbie mistakes. I have seen some awesome photos taken with a relatively cheap point and shoot camera, so the amount you spend on equipment doesn't qualify you either.
It is written: Having an enlightened thought makes one a saint; having an unenlightend thought makes one a sinner.
The average person has about 17,000 thoughts per day.
I agree with this statement!! Somedays you are a Pro and others you forget your camera! How many times you have a great shoot (in my case a wedding) get a lot of wonderful shots - everything right on...you are on top of the world. Next wedding - anything that can go wrong does, now you feel like the beginner you were years ago and want to crawl under a rock. However, we are always more critical of our own work than any of the people we photograph for, don't you think?
MWAC wrote:
I know I have been shooting for just over a year, but I no longer consider myself a "beginner" when it comes to my camera or photography as a whole. I think of myself more along the lines of an Advanced Amatuer, I still have a lot to learn but I have a firm grasp on my equipment and what it takes to get a good image at least 80% of the time. I was wondering who else considers themselves in this catagory?
Advanced Amatuer as defined by a number of photography clubs and organizations as: Photography enthusiasts who have obtained beyond basic skills in photography.
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According to the above definition, I, too, am an "advanced amateur". I have been taking photos seriously for decades, and I have sold several. But in no way do I consider myself a pro. There is so much to learn about photography that I will never know it all, no matter how many photos I take, or how old I get. I will never be anything more than an "advanced amateur".
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