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Nov 25, 2011 15:15:43   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Oh you want e.e. cummings

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Nov 25, 2011 15:50:12   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
pfredd wrote:
Sorry to tell you - the deep well theory is an old wives tale, or whatever photography equivalent is. Simply, our atmosphere is filled with micron sized particles which would take decades to ever settle in a no wind world, and never when we have wind to stir it up. So, sunlight reflects from them, plus lights up the gasses for a blue sky. The starlight you seek must penetrate 65,000'of that haze. At night city lights do the same, except not the gasses. and not as high.
Don't search for a dry well. One can get the same shot up a 10' sewer pipe, and it's safer. Or wait for a total solar eclipse
Sorry to tell you - the deep well theory is an old... (show quote)
You NEVER have to be sorry when you are right!
( I am mad enough to verify everything what is said anywhere, that way I correct what I think I knew but really did not. Still, being the nut that I am :shock: , I now would like to try the experiment with a long lens as to not have the contrast mentioned all over).

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pfredd wrote:
One can get the same shot up a 10' sewer pipe, and it's safer.
I am sorry but here you are taking the fun out of things. :shock: At least we would see stars if we fell down one! :mrgreen:


Quick search of sites that confirms it:
http://astroprofspage.com/archives/726
http://www.snopes.com/science/well.asp
Other sites uses these articles to confirm this so I will not post them. Including your 65,000' :D
The origin dates back to Aristotle and this let me wonder ever more. One has to admit that human life had not stirred so much crap as of now... so, did he see them???
NOW that becomes an interesting question! Question of perspective through time....

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Nov 25, 2011 15:50:30   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
Pfredd
Go ahead and stick your camera up my sewer pipe. I can guarantee you that you will not be thinking of taking a starscape

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Nov 25, 2011 16:07:27   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
For a minute I thought I was back in high school with all the bickering....

By the way, if one is going to be the English police, one should know how to spell grammar.

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Nov 25, 2011 17:13:01   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
if one wants to work for the national geographic,one should not write like a person off the set of deliverence, should one.

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Nov 25, 2011 17:17:21   #
Carioca
 
tramsey wrote:
I can't believe what I'm seeing!! It is obvious that Kamikazecheese spelt it wrong so blatantly was to catch your eye and not be passed over as just another boring question; and you took him seriously. He went along with it thinking it was all in fun. Most of the time you guys are pretty great to be around but by golly sometimes you can sure be a stuffed shirt


I'll second that.

If you're here to help people, answer their question and get on with your life.

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Nov 25, 2011 17:31:16   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
sinatraman wrote:
if one wants to work for the national geographic,one should not write like a person off the set of deliverence, should one.

Police grammar (according to Sinatra)
1, where is the space?
2, deliverence What's that? Oh! Deliverance! Got you.
3, you are asking a question you ninny, where is the '?'?
4, a period is needed instead of a comma

You make your own rules, don't you?

Will you stop being a jerk and allow folks to have fun?

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Nov 25, 2011 17:35:48   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
pfredd wrote:
Sorry to tell you...
frrrtttt! All dead "There was a train coming and I did not have the time to tell you! So sorry!!!" :shock: (joking)
- To alter the sour mood prevailing here, no offense to you, I hope. -

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Nov 25, 2011 17:55:51   #
pfredd
 
English_Wolf wrote:
pfredd wrote:
Sorry to tell you - the deep well theory is an old wives tale, or whatever photography equivalent is. Simply, our atmosphere is filled with micron sized particles which would take decades to ever settle in a no wind world, and never when we have wind to stir it up. So, sunlight reflects from them, plus lights up the gasses for a blue sky. The starlight you seek must penetrate 65,000'of that haze. At night city lights do the same, except not the gasses. and not as high.
Don't search for a dry well. One can get the same shot up a 10' sewer pipe, and it's safer. Or wait for a total solar eclipse
Sorry to tell you - the deep well theory is an old... (show quote)
You NEVER have to be sorry when you are right!
( I am mad enough to verify everything what is said anywhere, that way I correct what I think I knew but really did not. Still, being the nut that I am :shock: , I now would like to try the experiment with a long lens as to not have the contrast mentioned all over).

As to
pfredd wrote:
One can get the same shot up a 10' sewer pipe, and it's safer.
I am sorry but here you are taking the fun out of things. :shock: At least we would see stars if we fell down one! :mrgreen:


Quick search of sites that confirms it:
http://astroprofspage.com/archives/726
http://www.snopes.com/science/well.asp
Other sites uses these articles to confirm this so I will not post them. Including your 65,000' :D
The origin dates back to Aristotle and this let me wonder ever more. One has to admit that human life had not stirred so much crap as of now... so, did he see them???
NOW that becomes an interesting question! Question of perspective through time....
quote=pfredd Sorry to tell you - the deep well th... (show quote)

I admire your attitude, Accept buy verify.
Sorry I used the sewer pipe analogy, but I did get an interesting offer from a chappie who probably lives in San Francisco.

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Nov 25, 2011 18:02:01   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
pfredd wrote:
Sorry I used the sewer pipe analogy, but I did get an interesting offer from a chappie who probably lives in San Francisco.
:shock: :oops: :evil: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Nov 25, 2011 18:24:38   #
Dunatic
 
yhtomit wrote:
Take a deep breath Sinatraman,he did come here seeking knowledge.Cheers and a happy friday to you.

sinatraman wrote:
Sure I can. You are still in high school, on a site that you have to be 18 to join, so you aren't good at following directions, You also don't capitalize at the start of every sentence, don't use proper puncuation and grammer, yet wants to work for the National Geographic. Improve your English skills, even before you improve your photography skills or you'll wind up working the fry machine at McDonald's for the rest of your life. Oh and one more thing, society and work is boring, most people hate their jobs, there is little happiness to be found in worldly pursuits. Oh I forgot, UR is not a word unless you are refering to Ur of the Chaldeans, where Abrahm was before God called him to the promised land.
Sure I can. You are still in high school, on a sit... (show quote)
Take a deep breath Sinatraman,he did come here see... (show quote)


Wow, I really love your Avatar. Great photo. As to this thread, time to cut it off. Questions answered. Cheryl

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Nov 25, 2011 18:29:00   #
Michael O' Loc: Midwest right now
 
Hello "ole sarge". Nice to meet a GI. I was a T/Sgt once -- a lifetime ago. You never know where these posts will lead do you.

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Nov 25, 2011 18:31:14   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
Cheryl wrote:
Wow, I really love your Avatar. Great photo. As to this thread, time to cut it off. Questions answered.
When we start to have fun with wells, pipes and what not???? :thumbdown: :shock: :mrgreen:

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Nov 25, 2011 18:42:16   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
English Wolf
A little bit ago I posted a message I was hoping you would get. But I see you're too busy here. So I will repost it here, especially for you!
When I have a difficult time making someone understand my point of view I introduced them to my 'Argument Ender' and they usually see the light

Attached file:
(Download)

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Nov 25, 2011 18:56:54   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
tramsey wrote:
English Wolf
A little bit ago I posted a message I was hoping you would get. But I see you're too busy here. So I will repost it here, especially for you!
When I have a difficult time making someone understand my point of view I introduced them to my 'Argument Ender' and they usually see the light
Sorry but I never DL a .doc (and others .*) for security reason.
Have you not noticed that the tone here became light, instructive until it diverted - again?

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