Val wrote:
skidooman wrote:
They all look really nice. I agree with the cropping. The lighting looks what you would call flat (because of the direct flash). You say you have a detachable flash?? Do you have an off shoe cord so you can move the flash to just above forehead height and at about 45 degrees to your subject. It will add some shadowing to one side of the face thereby adding some depth. Give it a try, move your light around off camera axis. You'll be surprised at the results.
What he said!!!!
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What he said she said!
You do have beautiful subjects Lucky you. We all are wishing we were there!!!
Very pretty models but poor backgrounds. Inside shots
mostly have plain black or white backing. Outdoor shots
have blurred backgrounds.
You can add the bokeh in post with the gausean blur in PS
ianhargraves1066 wrote:
Dunatic wrote:
Hi: I'm trying to improve my portrait photography. I use a Minolta X700 film camera with detachable flash that I use on the hot shoe. I'll post a couple of those photos (processed and put on CD for upload to computer). Also, I use a Canon T3i digital camera with pop up flash. I'll post one of those photos. I recently purchased a reflector which has helped to get a better look from the eyes (not so dead looking).
But, how can I improve my set up without lugging around a lot of equipment (as my mobility isn't very good), buy a different flash for the T3i? Well, please give me your opinions. My goal is to produce photos that my daughter is happy with. Thanks, Cheryl
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Nice set of portraits but the background is distracting away from the otherwise great shots.
My only sugestion is to open up the aperture a couple of stops thus blurring the background, otherwise a good sat of pics
Ian
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Thank you Ian. I will try your suggestion. I've always wondered what F-stop is best for portraits. I'd try f5.6 or f4, depending upon the lens I used. I use my 70-200, I think that is the right lens a tele/zoom type lens? Is that better to use then the standard 50mm lens? Cheryl
skidooman wrote:
They all look really nice. I agree with the cropping. The lighting looks like what you would call flat (because of the direct flash). You say you have a detachable flash?? Do you have an off shoe cord so you can move the flash to just above forehead height and at about 45 degrees to your subject. It will add some shadowing to one side of the face thereby adding some depth. Use a reflector on the non flash side for a little fill light. Give it a try, move your light around off camera axis. You'll be surprised at the results.
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Thank you Ian and skidooman, now that it has been pointed out to me I do realize that the background is a bit busy. It's hard to know outdoors where to shoot. But you think if I blurred the background more say f4 or larger, it would be okay to shoot in the woods? Or is that a big "no no"? Sorry for all the questions. Cheryl
PalePictures wrote:
Val wrote:
skidooman wrote:
They all look really nice. I agree with the cropping. The lighting looks what you would call flat (because of the direct flash). You say you have a detachable flash?? Do you have an off shoe cord so you can move the flash to just above forehead height and at about 45 degrees to your subject. It will add some shadowing to one side of the face thereby adding some depth. Give it a try, move your light around off camera axis. You'll be surprised at the results.
What he said!!!!
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What he said she said!
You do have beautiful subjects Lucky you. We all are wishing we were there!!!
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Palepictures, sorry don't know your name, I thank you for your feedback. I have seen the photos you did of your beautiful daughter. Nice to have good looking models to photograph and practice on. Cheryl
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very pretty girl , the shots are good as well.i agree here. a couple of the backgrounds r to relevent, shallow depth of field maybe? of course , if u need to use f/16, f/22 thats ur perogative
John Kenyon wrote:
She's a very pretty girl that you capture well, but I find all your backgrounds distract from what you want to achieve.
Yep. The more you can put the focus on your subject (because that is your goal here) and not the background the better. Using that 70-200 at f2.8 would look great.
Dunatic wrote:
skidooman wrote:
They all look really nice. I agree with the cropping. The lighting looks like what you would call flat (because of the direct flash). You say you have a detachable flash?? Do you have an off shoe cord so you can move the flash to just above forehead height and at about 45 degrees to your subject. It will add some shadowing to one side of the face thereby adding some depth. Use a reflector on the non flash side for a little fill light. Give it a try, move your light around off camera axis. You'll be surprised at the results.
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Thank you Ian and skidooman, now that it has been pointed out to me I do realize that the background is a bit busy. It's hard to know outdoors where to shoot. But you think if I blurred the background more say f4 or larger, it would be okay to shoot in the woods? Or is that a big "no no"? Sorry for all the questions. Cheryl
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Okay, here's my take. Flat lighting is very good with females, according to two of my instructors from PPSOP (Bobbi Lane and Kevin Focht, Google them). If you are going to use on-camera flash, get a good flash and a Gary Fong diffuser or perhaps a ring flash. They are awesome and not cumbersome. In that last picture with the trees in the background, why don't you try desaturating that green...
JayT
Loc: Buffalo NY
The middle two are the best. Two quick tips for portraits. 1. If it bends - bend it. Your first and last image have her head to straight, the other two are better because there are more bends, eg neck, hips, arms. 2. Your lighting is Flat. You should be lighting the mask of the face. The first two are very flat, the 3rd and 4th are a little better. The sides of the face should be shadowed more to give a roundness to the face.
If you are photographing outside, you can shoot without a flash by finding the direction of the light and having your subject face into it, while she is standing in open shade. If you use a flash, it should be used as fill light, not the main.
You have a good model that seems to have good self posing, let her have some fun and move a little.
JayT wrote:
The middle two are the best. Two quick tips for portraits. 1. If it bends - bend it. Your first and last image have her head to straight, the other two are better because there are more bends, eg neck, hips, arms. 2. Your lighting is Flat. You should be lighting the mask of the face. The first two are very flat, the 3rd and 4th are a little better. The sides of the face should be shadowed more to give a roundness to the face.
If you are photographing outside, you can shoot without a flash by finding the direction of the light and having your subject face into it, while she is standing in open shade. If you use a flash, it should be used as fill light, not the main.
You have a good model that seems to have good self posing, let her have some fun and move a little.
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Jay, Mary and Frank: Thank you for your comments. I truly appreciate this information. I have a lot to comprehend here. I wish I could print these pages to reference to them. But, I do need to purchase a flash unit for my T3i because I only have the pop up flash on it. Need to be more aware of the background or when doing portraits make sure the background is more blurred out. Does this apply for full length photos as well or do you want like f16 on them, random question. Also, you do want to see a bit of a shadow to give depth to the subject. You all have been wonderful. I am attaching another photo I look this past summer while we were on vacation. Lorna has professional photographers for her model comp cards, but she practices poses with me. While I practice with her (lol). It's a good fit and nice to be able to spend time with my daughter. I hope to improve and post new photos. Cheryl
Lorna Side Shot - Minolta x700 SLR w on camera flash
How pretty. I've heard this lighting referred to as a Hollywood shot because you can see the shadow of her eyelashes on her cheek. Way back when Hollywood was glamorous, they did shots like that. It's really cool!
True, you can get away with flat lighting females. I too am a subscriber to PPSOP. Is it the preferred method above all else, not in my opinion. I stick to my guns with moving your flash off camera, diffuser or not.
Mary P wrote:
Okay, here's my take. Flat lighting is very good with females, according to two of my instructors from PPSOP (Bobbi Lane and Kevin Focht, Google them). If you are going to use on-camera flash, get a good flash and a Gary Fong diffuser or perhaps a ring flash. They are awesome and not cumbersome. In that last picture with the trees in the background, why don't you try desaturating that green...
Mary P wrote:
How pretty. I've heard this lighting referred to as a Hollywood shot because you can see the shadow of her eyelashes on her cheek. Way back when Hollywood was glamorous, they did shots like that. It's really cool!
Thank you. I did look through some magazines and she always looks and practices poses. She actually has a book of poses and clothing she likes. This one was her idea and I have several others like that. Until I get a flash unit for my Canon, I'm limited to that pop up flash and the reflector that I purchased. However, for this shot I used my Minolta with detachable flash (but it was on camera). I'm learning, but it gets confusing at times. Good thing she is available whenever I want to practice. I did this image in black and white too, just changed a setting on my computer, printed it and it won first place at our county fair. I'll post that photo. Cheryl
Lorna side shot in black and white
Do you folks like it in black and white or not? Just wondering? Cheryl
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