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Jan 15, 2013 13:03:22   #
Ansel Rosewater
 
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photograph taken with an inexpensive, low pixel camera. I downloaded the photograph and it had the following properties:
File size 247 .jpg
Dimentions: 525 X 420

I made a 5” X 7” photograph and it looked wonderful. I wanted to have it enlarged to a 16” x 40” photograph and the results were very disappointing; it pixelated.

My open-ended question is: Is there a way to make an 16 x 40 or larger print and maintain the same clarity as the 5 x 7?

My specific questions is: Would the following work??

What if I set the 5 x 7 photograph up in a perfect (studio) lighting situation, and took a photograph of the 5 x 7 photo using my friend’s Nikon 3200, 24 MP camera with a 130 Nikor lens and a tripod. Could I then use the resulting picture for a 16 x 40 enlargement?

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Jan 15, 2013 13:12:56   #
photobuf Loc: Mississippi
 
Not enough pixels to make a good enlargement. I am sure there is a formula for enlargement per pixel but I don't know what it is. To make a poster size print, I would guess 10mp would be the least amount!

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Jan 15, 2013 13:14:19   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
No. What you're asking is trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Copying a print with a higher rez camera isn't going to help.
You'll have a bigger file, sure, but you'll lose sharpness and tonal range.
About the best you can do is use post-processing programs like PerfectResize to rez it up, but you'll lose a lot of detail.
http://www.ononesoftware.com/products/perfect-resize/
Sounds like too much time spent watching CSI, like me.

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Jan 16, 2013 07:34:58   #
Radioman Loc: Ontario Canada
 
Ansel Rosewater wrote:
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photograph taken with an inexpensive, low pixel camera. I downloaded the photograph and it had the following properties:
File size 247 .jpg
Dimentions: 525 X 420

I made a 5” X 7” photograph and it looked wonderful. I wanted to have it enlarged to a 16” x 40” photograph and the results were very disappointing; it pixelated.

My open-ended question is: Is there a way to make an 16 x 40 or larger print and maintain the same clarity as the 5 x 7?

My specific questions is: Would the following work??

What if I set the 5 x 7 photograph up in a perfect (studio) lighting situation, and took a photograph of the 5 x 7 photo using my friend’s Nikon 3200, 24 MP camera with a 130 Nikor lens and a tripod. Could I then use the resulting picture for a 16 x 40 enlargement?
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photogra... (show quote)


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The pixelating can be reduced by increasing the DPI (using photoshop) - but. as others have mentioned, you cannot increase the detail of the original. Why not upload the original? someone here may increase the DPI for you. (DPI = Pixels per inch)

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Jan 16, 2013 08:42:26   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
Radioman wrote:
Ansel Rosewater wrote:
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photograph taken with an inexpensive, low pixel camera. I downloaded the photograph and it had the following properties:
File size 247 .jpg
Dimentions: 525 X 420

I made a 5” X 7” photograph and it looked wonderful. I wanted to have it enlarged to a 16” x 40” photograph and the results were very disappointing; it pixelated.

My open-ended question is: Is there a way to make an 16 x 40 or larger print and maintain the same clarity as the 5 x 7?

My specific questions is: Would the following work??

What if I set the 5 x 7 photograph up in a perfect (studio) lighting situation, and took a photograph of the 5 x 7 photo using my friend’s Nikon 3200, 24 MP camera with a 130 Nikor lens and a tripod. Could I then use the resulting picture for a 16 x 40 enlargement?
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photogra... (show quote)


******

The pixelating can be reduced by increasing the DPI (using photoshop) - but. as others have mentioned, you cannot increase the detail of the original. Why not upload the original? someone here may increase the DPI for you. (DPI = Pixels per inch)
quote=Ansel Rosewater Someone recently sent to me... (show quote)


Please be accurate when offering advice.

DPI stands for Dots per inch and is related to printing only. PPI is pixels per inch and is used for digital mediums like monitors.

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Jan 16, 2013 09:03:23   #
GHK Loc: The Vale of Eden
 
Ansel Rosewater wrote:
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photograph taken with an inexpensive, low pixel camera. I downloaded the photograph and it had the following properties:
File size 247 .jpg
Dimentions: 525 X 420

I made a 5” X 7” photograph and it looked wonderful. I wanted to have it enlarged to a 16” x 40” photograph and the results were very disappointing; it pixelated.

My open-ended question is: Is there a way to make an 16 x 40 or larger print and maintain the same clarity as the 5 x 7?

My specific questions is: Would the following work??

What if I set the 5 x 7 photograph up in a perfect (studio) lighting situation, and took a photograph of the 5 x 7 photo using my friend’s Nikon 3200, 24 MP camera with a 130 Nikor lens and a tripod. Could I then use the resulting picture for a 16 x 40 enlargement?
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photogra... (show quote)


I'm sorry but I don't think that there is much you can do as things stand.
The best hope would be to contact the person who sent you the image. You say they used alow res camera but I cannot believe that it was as low as 525 x 420; even 1024 x 768 would be from apretty early digi camera, and anything less than, say 8 years old would probably be much bigger. Ask them if they could send you the original file, preferably on CD and saved as TIFF or psd rather than Jpeg.

GHK

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Jan 16, 2013 09:30:45   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
Ansel Rosewater wrote:
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photograph taken with an inexpensive, low pixel camera. I downloaded the photograph and it had the following properties:
File size 247 .jpg
Dimentions: 525 X 420

I made a 5” X 7” photograph and it looked wonderful. I wanted to have it enlarged to a 16” x 40” photograph and the results were very disappointing; it pixelated.

My open-ended question is: Is there a way to make an 16 x 40 or larger print and maintain the same clarity as the 5 x 7?

My specific questions is: Would the following work??

What if I set the 5 x 7 photograph up in a perfect (studio) lighting situation, and took a photograph of the 5 x 7 photo using my friend’s Nikon 3200, 24 MP camera with a 130 Nikor lens and a tripod. Could I then use the resulting picture for a 16 x 40 enlargement?
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photogra... (show quote)


Your desired final size makes no sense. To keep the proportions as the original, let's say the you want to quadruple the size, it would be 20 x 28. At 16 x40 you will end up with a ridiculously elongated image. As for resolution, you would need the original to be at least 2000 x 1600 pixels to get that larger print. The pixel-size has to be in the original picture taken; you cannot create pixels out of thin air.

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Jan 16, 2013 10:15:16   #
emmons267 Loc: Arizona, Valley of the Sun
 
Radioman wrote:
Ansel Rosewater wrote:
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photograph taken with an inexpensive, low pixel camera. I downloaded the photograph and it had the following properties:
File size 247 .jpg
Dimentions: 525 X 420

I made a 5” X 7” photograph and it looked wonderful. I wanted to have it enlarged to a 16” x 40” photograph and the results were very disappointing; it pixelated.

My open-ended question is: Is there a way to make an 16 x 40 or larger print and maintain the same clarity as the 5 x 7?

My specific questions is: Would the following work??

What if I set the 5 x 7 photograph up in a perfect (studio) lighting situation, and took a photograph of the 5 x 7 photo using my friend’s Nikon 3200, 24 MP camera with a 130 Nikor lens and a tripod. Could I then use the resulting picture for a 16 x 40 enlargement?
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photogra... (show quote)


******

Just a note: dpi is used in reference to printing and ppi is used for digital images.

The pixelating can be reduced by increasing the DPI (using photoshop) - but. as others have mentioned, you cannot increase the detail of the original. Why not upload the original? someone here may increase the DPI for you. (DPI = Pixels per inch)
quote=Ansel Rosewater Someone recently sent to me... (show quote)

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Jan 16, 2013 11:40:31   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
Ansel Rosewater wrote:
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photograph taken with an inexpensive, low pixel camera. I downloaded the photograph and it had the following properties:
File size 247 .jpg
Dimentions: 525 X 420

I made a 5” X 7” photograph and it looked wonderful. I wanted to have it enlarged to a 16” x 40” photograph and the results were very disappointing; it pixelated.

My open-ended question is: Is there a way to make an 16 x 40 or larger print and maintain the same clarity as the 5 x 7?

My specific questions is: Would the following work??

What if I set the 5 x 7 photograph up in a perfect (studio) lighting situation, and took a photograph of the 5 x 7 photo using my friend’s Nikon 3200, 24 MP camera with a 130 Nikor lens and a tripod. Could I then use the resulting picture for a 16 x 40 enlargement?
Someone recently sent to me a magnificent photogra... (show quote)



Ansel Rosewater. This is an addition to my previous reply to you, which I should have completed.You also asked about using your friend's Nikon 3200. Altough I don't know the camera, it appears that in the "Fine"quality setting can produce 10 MB pictures. This would be about 2000 x 1500 pixels, and good enough for a good enlargement. It means, of course, that you would have to retake the picture with that camera and using its "Fine" setting.

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Jan 16, 2013 11:44:42   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
bunuweld wrote:
You also asked about using your friend's Nikon 3200. Altough I don't know the camera, it appears that in the "Fine"quality setting can produce 10 MB pictures. This would be about 2000 x 1500 pixels, and good enough for a good enlargement. It means, of course, that you would have to retake the picture with that camera and using its "Fine" setting.


The max resolution on the D3200 is actually a whopping 6,016 × 4,000 pixels.

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Jan 16, 2013 16:15:54   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
bunuweld wrote:
You also asked about using your friend's Nikon 3200. Altough I don't know the camera, it appears that in the "Fine"quality setting can produce 10 MB pictures. This would be about 2000 x 1500 pixels, and good enough for a good enlargement. It means, of course, that you would have to retake the picture with that camera and using its "Fine" setting.


The max resolution on the D3200 is actually a whopping 6,016 × 4,000 pixels.


Thanks for the info. That's good for at least a 20 x 30 inch print.

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Jan 16, 2013 16:24:31   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
bunuweld wrote:
GoofyNewfie wrote:
bunuweld wrote:
You also asked about using your friend's Nikon 3200. Altough I don't know the camera, it appears that in the "Fine"quality setting can produce 10 MB pictures. This would be about 2000 x 1500 pixels, and good enough for a good enlargement. It means, of course, that you would have to retake the picture with that camera and using its "Fine" setting.


The max resolution on the D3200 is actually a whopping 6,016 × 4,000 pixels.




Thanks for the info. That's good for at least a 20 x 30 inch print.
quote=GoofyNewfie quote=bunuweld You also asked ... (show quote)


The red one is better.
It's faster!

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