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Jan 9, 2013 13:45:03   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
After police confiscated the camera, they later arrested the photographer for violating HIPAA regulations.

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22333563/little-canada-man-videotaped-sheriffs-deputies-and-got

"Andrew Henderson watched as Ramsey County sheriff's deputies frisked a bloody-faced man outside his Little Canada apartment building. Paramedics then loaded the man, a stranger to Henderson, into an ambulance.

Henderson, 28, took out his small handheld video camera and began recording. It's something he does regularly with law enforcement.

But what happened next was different. The deputy, Jacqueline Muellner, approached him and snatched the camera from his hand, Henderson said.

"We'll just take this for evidence," Muellner said. Their voices were recorded on Henderson's cellphone as they spoke, and Henderson provided a copy of the audio file to the Pioneer Press. "If I end up on YouTube, I'm gonna be upset.""

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Jan 9, 2013 13:46:56   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
Some government officials want our cameras, as well as our guns.

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Jan 9, 2013 13:53:55   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
After reading the article, be sure to view video at the bottom.

It's very disturbing and revealing. Sickening in fact.

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Jan 10, 2013 06:03:44   #
billypip Loc: nottingham England
 
like all governments, theyre closing the net and squeezing out all our freedoms.

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Jan 10, 2013 08:40:53   #
ozdude Loc: Brisbane Australia
 
The police are just another gang in different colours. Its the same all over the world.

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Jan 10, 2013 08:51:22   #
billypip Loc: nottingham England
 
great analogy OZ.
ozdude wrote:
The police are just another gang in different colours. Its the same all over the world.

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Jan 10, 2013 09:46:23   #
Toby
 
MisterWilson wrote:
After police confiscated the camera, they later arrested the photographer for violating HIPAA regulations.

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22333563/little-canada-man-videotaped-sheriffs-deputies-and-got

"Andrew Henderson watched as Ramsey County sheriff's deputies frisked a bloody-faced man outside his Little Canada apartment building. Paramedics then loaded the man, a stranger to Henderson, into an ambulance.

Henderson, 28, took out his small handheld video camera and began recording. It's something he does regularly with law enforcement.

But what happened next was different. The deputy, Jacqueline Muellner, approached him and snatched the camera from his hand, Henderson said.

"We'll just take this for evidence," Muellner said. Their voices were recorded on Henderson's cellphone as they spoke, and Henderson provided a copy of the audio file to the Pioneer Press. "If I end up on YouTube, I'm gonna be upset.""
After police confiscated the camera, they later ar... (show quote)


This guy seems to have a lot of time to spend on triva. Perhaps he sould get a life!

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Jan 10, 2013 09:50:13   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
I hate anything when it comes to our rights being infringed upon; especially by the police.

But I had the exact opposite happen to me about a year ago. I was taking some photos of an apartment fire when I was approached by a local police officer. He asked politely to see shots that I took. I was a little leery. He was looking for crowd shots. He then asked me if I could make a copy of my card and drop it off at the station if it was not too much trouble. He then gave me his business card. I did. He called me to thank me. That was nice. I guess that if he was beating some one up it would have been a different story. Lol.

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Jan 10, 2013 12:14:37   #
Robbie7 Loc: Northampton. England
 
Yes we get the same thing in the UK. Recently there have been large demonstrations held where hundreds of photographers gather to take legal photos in places known to be hotspots. This goes beyond photography. I would urge all photographers to organise these pro photographers rights rallies where ever they occur. I have never been involved in a demonstration ever, but I would go on one of these. So come on you young Internet intellectuals get involved, but please make sure of your facts..regards

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Jan 10, 2013 14:35:46   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Robbie7 wrote:
Yes we get the same thing in the UK. Recently there have been large demonstrations held where hundreds of photographers gather to take legal photos in places known to be hotspots. This goes beyond photography. I would urge all photographers to organise these pro photographers rights rallies where ever they occur. I have never been involved in a demonstration ever, but I would go on one of these. So come on you young Internet intellectuals get involved, but please make sure of your facts..regards
Yes we get the same thing in the UK. Recently ther... (show quote)
I think a little common sense helps also.

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Jan 10, 2013 14:57:18   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
tainkc wrote:
Robbie7 wrote:
Yes we get the same thing in the UK. Recently there have been large demonstrations held where hundreds of photographers gather to take legal photos in places known to be hotspots. This goes beyond photography. I would urge all photographers to organise these pro photographers rights rallies where ever they occur. I have never been involved in a demonstration ever, but I would go on one of these. So come on you young Internet intellectuals get involved, but please make sure of your facts..regards
Yes we get the same thing in the UK. Recently ther... (show quote)
I think a little common sense helps also.
quote=Robbie7 Yes we get the same thing in the UK... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Common sense and curtsy sure make life easier for me.

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Jan 10, 2013 18:04:44   #
pigpen
 
It's all about intimidation. I know there are exeptions, but many people become cops due to ego. They want the power and respect they've been unable to get in life, so they seek a profession that demands respect and gives power. Sorry, but most of the cops I know are hardasses. Many years ago, a female state trooper pulled me over for speeding in a company vehicle. I protested, as many people were passing me and I told her she got the wrong vehicle. I truly believe this, I just wasn't trying to get out of a ticket. When she asked me to sign, I just put an X. She told me that wouldn't do anything to stop the ticket. I told her I knew that. It was in the winter, and when she went to rip off my part of the ticket, the wind blew it from her hand, and into the middle of the highway in a puddle. This really pissed me off. I took the ticket, and drove away. When I got back to work, I was told I was fired. There was an "800" number on the back of my truck, she actually called it to complain. I was fired on the spot, it was one week before Christmas!!

I tried to file a complaint at her station, saying her job was to give me a ticket, not get me fired. I was told by her supervisor that she did nothing wrong. There aren't a whole lot of cops I have respect for. The ones I do are great people, and reasonable and would never do something like this.

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Jan 10, 2013 18:49:41   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
Till one has been around a whole lot of police they are only either exposed to the one who gives them a ticket or the ones they read about in the news when they do something wrong.

There are far more good cops than the ego maniacs who want to be super hero and crime busting macho man/woman.

The amount of them who get drummed out of the police and get into security positions is monumental. and the there are the "want'a be" like that fellow in Florida - can you imagine him with a police badge??

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Jan 10, 2013 18:55:05   #
wingincamera Loc: Spanaway, Washington
 
I don't know what the laws are in Canada, but in Washington state it is illegal to record someone's voice without their consent, which probably happen. There are exceptions to this, but from what was posted what happen would probably be illegal.

As to signing a ticket with just an "X" I am surprised the officer accepted that and didn't require a signature similar to what was on the driver's license. If still refusing to give a proper signature, that would escalate to a criminal ticket and maybe even an arrest. My question is why do some people bring this on themselves?

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Jan 10, 2013 20:12:49   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
MisterWilson wrote:
Some government officials want our cameras, as well as our guns.


Some crooked officials want our cameras. Some reasonable officials want guns designed for war off the streets. Keep your guns for hunting and self defense.

Yep, we support the Second Amendment.

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