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Dec 28, 2012 10:07:42   #
wcuster Loc: The Sea Ranch, CA
 
My wife & I each have a D800E. The incidence of moire is VERY rare for normal shooting (people, wildlife, scenery). The only time we saw moire was in a picture of a screen door, however for some applications I assume it could be an issue (but not for us).

However I don't know if there is enough of a resolution advantage with the D800E over the D800 to justify the $300 price difference.

Walt Custer

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Dec 28, 2012 10:14:28   #
ReFlections Loc: From LA to AL
 
Zero_Equals_Infinity wrote:
I am a D800 owner, and am extraordinarily happy with the camera.

The D800E will deliver slightly sharper images in the wider apertures, (less than f8). Moire will also be more pronounced on some subjects. At f8 or higher, diffraction limitation will act similarly to an AA filter resulting in virtually identical detail resolution.

If you shoot at < f8 frequently, and moire inducing objects are uncommon, then go for the E. If you feel uncomfortable about using a camera in which moire could on occasion be problematic stick with the D800. The small size of the pixels works in favour of the E, such that moire is less likely to be a factor unless fine threaded fabrics, far away screens and roof tile are common in your images.

As stated, I purchased the D800, and am exceedingly happy with it. I bought it because it was available in March when I purchased it. If the D800E were available I would likely have bought it instead, but truth be told the either are exceptional cameras, and both require the very best glass and camera holding technique to realise their full potential.

Attached cropped image was taken with D800 at f4 with 105mm micro-nikkor at 1/250 using a flash, using my tripod as a gunstock.
I am a D800 owner, and am extraordinarily happy wi... (show quote)


I agree with Z_E_I . I purchased the D800. The key is learning/adjusting your shooting technique WITH EITHER. GLASS is very important . Either camera requires careful planning. Must be care of image blur with high ISO. Tripods are a best friend. Chromatic aberration and motion blur are unforgiving. Buy either one. Take many test shots to learn your limits with the camera. Once mastered PHOTO PARADISE.

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Dec 28, 2012 12:44:51   #
D800EFan
 
Here is a nice comparison for the D800 and Canon 5D III:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuozUxh_tOU

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Dec 28, 2012 20:20:18   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
rrg6481 wrote:
I am going to make the leap to the FX format and was wondering if any of you Nikonians out there have extensive enough experience with both the D800 and D800E to help me with the decision to buy either one. I am upgrading from a D300 and D200. I know the 800E produces a moire when shooting patterns...my focus of work will be landscape, animals and real estate virtual tours. No studio. I have 35 years of printing industry experience so the world of imagery is not foreign to me. Am just curious if it is worth it to jump from the D800 to the D800E. Any help with sample images if you so desire would be very helpful. Thanks in advance for your help.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
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Hello, I also have considerable digital printing experience. I also specialize in analoge silver printing and I teach photography both analog and digital. I had a Nikon D700 for quite a while and when I heard about the D800 and D800e cameras I was very excited. When the cameras first came out it was impossible to get one especially the D800e was very scarce. A friend of mine managed to get a D800e and he let me borrow his camera to test my lenses to see exactly what the situation was with the cameras. I tested all of my lenses and here are the results of the teas with my 24-70, 105 macro and my 60 macro. I have quite a few other lenses but these 3 were the most important because of the quality of the lenses and these are the lenses I use the most. The best result of the 3 lenses was the 60 macro. The 60 lens was the best performing of the 3. I am not trying to convince anybody to buy any of the three lenses, Im just relaying my test results. So the 60 had the highest quality and the 105 macro was second and the 24-70 came in 3rd. I just looked at the images as far as over all quality. The first thing that impressed me was the clarity that the D800e was able to achieve. I was also very impressed by the detail and the acutance capability of the lenses. I was extremely impressed with the over all performance of the D800e compared to the d700, there is no comparison. The D800e is capable of superior image making. The images are extremely sharp and the color fidelity is extraordinary. Here are 3 test images one with the 24-70, 60 macro and the 105 macro. There is no indication of moire in any of the 3 images and for landscape type photography there will be no problem. I would definitely recommend the D800e over the d800. One last thing, Cameta camera is selling the D800e refurbished for camera for $2699.00 with free shipping. I just bought one of these cameras and I am very satisfied with it. Here are the 3 test images. It is well worth making the jump to this camera.

24-70 2.8 lens
24-70 2.8 lens...

60 macro lens
60 macro lens...

105 macro lens
105 macro lens...

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Dec 28, 2012 20:32:49   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
D800EFan wrote:
Here is a nice comparison for the D800 and Canon 5D III:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuozUxh_tOU


This comparison is only for comparing video capabilities of the two cameras. Nothing is said about the still images.

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Dec 28, 2012 21:03:44   #
HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
 
Zero_Equals_Infinity wrote:
I am a D800 owner, and am extraordinarily happy with the camera.

The D800E will deliver slightly sharper images in the wider apertures, (less than f8). Moire will also be more pronounced on some subjects. At f8 or higher, diffraction limitation will act similarly to an AA filter resulting in virtually identical detail resolution.

If you shoot at < f8 frequently, and moire inducing objects are uncommon, then go for the E. If you feel uncomfortable about using ausa mera in which moire could on occasion be problematic stick with the D800.
I am a D800 owner, and am extraordinarily happy wi... (show quote)


I too purchased the 800 rather than the 800e for the reasons stated by Zero above. I seldom use apertures below f8, so I didn't see any real advantage to the 800e that was worth another $300. I am totally blown away by the image quality and the incredibly fast and accurate autofocus under any condition I have tried short of total darkness, not to mention the superb user interface and all the extra bells and whistles. I have spent most of my waking hours for the last 4 days testing and comparing lenses, cameras, and analyzing close to a thousand images to find out first, do I want to keep this camera (is it really worth the major investment it represents?), then can I use my large collection of 20-30 year old lenses with it - will I be able to avoid spending a fortune on pro lenses to get what I am looking for from the camera?

Well, the answer is YES, YES, & YES! My old lenses were good ones, and they are GREAT lenses on the D800 - the only new lens I have purchased specifically for the D800 is the 24-120/f4. The images I am getting with this camera are awesome whether hand-held, shot from a tripod, in poor light, whatever - it doesn't matter. It has convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt that Megapixels do matter after all, especially when those pixels are of superb quality. I can finally get the fine detail I want in my landscapes without doing multi-shot panos or spending a fortune on medium format digital. I can't wait to get my next project under way!

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Jan 1, 2013 11:14:15   #
rrg6481 Loc: USA
 
Thanks to all of you for the excellent advice and information about the D800. I am definitely going to buy one and more than likely a refurb 800E along with the 14-24 2.8 lense. It has been a very frustration experience to view a final print from the D300 knowing it could have been sharper. Now I am hoping my sharpness expectation will be realized with the D800. Happy New Year.

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Jan 1, 2013 13:18:03   #
wcuster Loc: The Sea Ranch, CA
 
I think you will be very happy with the D800E.

I also have a Nikon 14-28 f/2.8. It is a great wide angle lens but it has its limitations. It will not accept any filter directly due to its "bubble" lens.

There is one third party adapter & circular polarizing filter available but this adds $250 to the cost. Specifically it is Fotodiox Pro. Filter Adapter Kit (145mm) with Circular Polarizing Filter Kit sold by Fotodiox Inc.

Walt Custer

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